Achievements

Started by Trotsky, February 04, 2017, 11:29:49 AM

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Trotsky

Gillam now has 39 career wins, tying him for 11th with LeNeveu.  Gillam 83 GP, LeNeveu 46)

upprdeck

its really scary to see Gillam at 39 wins after 75+ starts and Dryden at 78 wins with only 83 starts..

billhoward

Quote from: upprdeckits really scary to see Gillam at 39 wins after 75+ starts and Dryden at 78 wins with only 83 starts..
If Gillam could go back in time and have the skaters in front of him that Dryden had, not have Penn State, Union, Arizona State, Notre Dame attracting good players, he'd be closer to Dryden's stats. The year after Dryden was graduated, his successor, Brian Cropper, went unbeaten, something Dryden and team couldn't accomplish.

marty

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: upprdeckits really scary to see Gillam at 39 wins after 75+ starts and Dryden at 78 wins with only 83 starts..
If Gillam could go back in time and have the skaters in front of him that Dryden had, not have Penn State, Union, Arizona State, Notre Dame attracting good players, he'd be closer to Dryden's stats. The year after Dryden was graduated, his successor, Brian Cropper, went unbeaten, something Dryden and team couldn't accomplish.

I'll add that only a few teams were truly competitive in that period.  On many nights the chance of a loss approached zero.  The parity, player quality, school commitment, etc. makes this a different universe if not truly a different game.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: marty
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: upprdeckits really scary to see Gillam at 39 wins after 75+ starts and Dryden at 78 wins with only 83 starts..
If Gillam could go back in time and have the skaters in front of him that Dryden had, not have Penn State, Union, Arizona State, Notre Dame attracting good players, he'd be closer to Dryden's stats. The year after Dryden was graduated, his successor, Brian Cropper, went unbeaten, something Dryden and team couldn't accomplish.

I'll add that only a few teams were truly competitive in that period.  On many nights the chance of a loss approached zero.  The parity, player quality, school commitment, etc. makes this a different universe if not truly a different game.
And this is why comparing today with an era when Cornell made the Final Four six times in seven years just makes no sense.  Different world.
Al DeFlorio '65

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: martyI'll add that only a few teams were truly competitive in that period.  On many nights the chance of a loss approached zero.
An example:  during the 67-68 season I watched Cornell play three away games in an eight-day span and score 40--that's correct, 40--goals, with the middle of those three games against a terrific BU team resulting in a tight 3-2 win.  Not gonna happen today.
Al DeFlorio '65

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: martyI'll add that only a few teams were truly competitive in that period.  On many nights the chance of a loss approached zero.
An example:  during the 67-68 season I watched Cornell play three away games in an eight-day span and score 40--that's correct, 40--goals, with the middle of those three games against a terrific BU team resulting in a tight 3-2 win.  Not gonna happen today.

It was common back then to have some blow-out wins, even in playoffs. 1967 ECAC QF 11-2 vs Brown, SF 12-2 vs BC.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

ursusminor

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: martyI'll add that only a few teams were truly competitive in that period.  On many nights the chance of a loss approached zero.
An example:  during the 67-68 season I watched Cornell play three away games in an eight-day span and score 40--that's correct, 40--goals, with the middle of those three games against a terrific BU team resulting in a tight 3-2 win.  Not gonna happen today.

It was common back then to have some blow-out wins, even in playoffs. 1967 ECAC QF 11-2 vs Brown, SF 12-2 vs BC.
That was, of course, before goalie pads became ridiculously big.

I have watched this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUEHAUJsKDE from the 1974 ECAC first round playoff game between UNH (#1) and RPI (#8) many times. UNH scored three goals in under 2 minutes tying the game 4-4. I have wondered what RPI's Don Cutts, who was IMHO a good goalie, would have done with today's goalie pads. BTW, RPI won 7-6 in OT although you would not have guessed it from the clip. (Also UNH goalie Cap Raeder started even though he apparently quite sick and he gave up several early goals before being pulled.)

I also wonder what happened to the video from the rest of the game. :) The poster doesn't know.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: ursusminorThat was, of course, before goalie pads became ridiculously big.
Right  And goals came more frequently than in soccer games.  Goalies looked like normal human beings with gloves and a stick and actually had to move an arm or a leg to make a save, rather than fall to their knees and catch the puck after it bounced off one of their many huge pads.
Al DeFlorio '65

Hooking

More equivocation: "The league was easier then blah blah blah . . . " Dryden has the best numbers of any goalie in the NHL - ever. Maybe the world's greatest hockey trivia question: Who was Stanley Cup MVP (Conn-Smythe Trophy) the year BEFORE he was NHL Rookie of the Year (Calder Memorial Trophy)?

Jim Hyla

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: martyI'll add that only a few teams were truly competitive in that period.  On many nights the chance of a loss approached zero.
An example:  during the 67-68 season I watched Cornell play three away games in an eight-day span and score 40--that's correct, 40--goals, with the middle of those three games against a terrific BU team resulting in a tight 3-2 win.  Not gonna happen today.

It was common back then to have some blow-out wins, even in playoffs. 1967 ECAC QF 11-2 vs Brown, SF 12-2 vs BC.
That was, of course, before goalie pads became ridiculously big.

I have watched this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUEHAUJsKDE from the 1974 ECAC first round playoff game between UNH (#1) and RPI (#8) many times. UNH scored three goals in under 2 minutes tying the game 4-4. I have wondered what RPI's Don Cutts, who was IMHO a good goalie, would have done with today's goalie pads. BTW, RPI won 7-6 in OT although you would not have guessed it from the clip. (Also UNH goalie Cap Raeder started even though he apparently quite sick and he gave up several early goals before being pulled.)

I also wonder what happened to the video from the rest of the game. :) The poster doesn't know.

But of course that doesn't change the obvious disparity between the teams. After-all both teams goalie pads were similar and they couldn't score on us. The point is that the talent as much more varied, compared to now.

I did like the video. If RPI was playing more defense, maybe it would have been different. Even with today's goalie pads, if you give a star the puck, all alone in front of the goalie, you expect they might score. To defend Cutts, it's likely that the only one that, even today, he'd be expected to possibly stop was the first one. The other 2 were quick passes to an excellent forward, who was all alone.

But I'm glad you did beat UHN.:-}
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

marty

Quote from: HookingMore equivocation: "The league was easier then blah blah blah . . . " Dryden has the best numbers of any goalie in the NHL - ever. Maybe the world's greatest hockey trivia question: Who was Stanley Cup MVP (Conn-Smythe Trophy) the year BEFORE he was NHL Rookie of the Year (Calder Memorial Trophy)?

OK I'll answer your questions if you answer mine. How long have you been a hooker?::bolt::
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

andyw2100

Quote from: Jim HylaI did like the video.

Me too! I especially liked the cyclone fencing behind the goals!

Hooking

How long? Ever since I decided to stop making excuses and instead look for improvement. Blaming the refereeing, the ice condition, the travel, the crowd, the bad breaks - none of these ever improved a team.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: HookingHow long? Ever since I decided to stop making excuses and instead look for improvement. Blaming the refereeing, the ice condition, the travel, the crowd, the bad breaks - none of these ever improved a team.
If 14-6-2 isn't a good season to you you are clueless...as well as tiresome, boring, and annoying.  Change your handle to Whining.
Al DeFlorio '65