Annual Home Stretch Contest: 2017 Edition

Started by Trotsky, January 09, 2017, 04:48:05 PM

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Jim Hyla

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Quote from: Jim HylaI'll go with Andy's. I hate to bet against teams that I'm rooting for. (But then I also don't bet for them either, I just don't bet.) It seems awkward to pick a loss and root for a win.

I can't imagine why. It's a prediction contest, not a wish list. I hope for Cornell to beat Hahvahd, but logically I believe they will lose. If picking Cornell over Hahvahd loses me the contest when I otherwise would've won, that seems awkward to me.

I would hope that you could imagine why, but maybe I wasn't clear enough. Yes this is a contest and I assume if I play, I'd like to win. On the other hand, I don't want to win by hoping that CU will lose. Therefore, since I'm going to be rooting and hoping that CU wins all their games, that's the only way I want to win.

Now if it were simply a prediction, such as is done at the beginning of the season when we predict where we think the team will be at the end, then I can easily say I don't think CU will be first in the ECAC. However I'm still rooting for that, and I don't lose if I'm wrong.

Maybe you still can't imagine why, but that's okay.

Perhaps you think that because I believe Cornell will lose to Hahvahd, and because I therefore picked Hahvahd, I am not rooting for Cornell - or even worse, that I am actively rooting for Hahvahd. You would be mistaken. I don't believe it is the least bit inconsistent to root for Cornell to win and yet accept winning the contest as a distant consolation.

Not to mention the fact that I could still win the contest even if Cornell wins that game.

I don't know why you'd think that I'd believe that you'd root against CU. I never had any comment about you, other than you're not understanding of my position.

See your comments above in bold.

My comments refer to me and my thoughts. Nowhere did I mean to imply that you'd root against CU. I certainly don't, and didn't, think that wining the contest meant more to you than CU wining. Just that, to me, it seems awkward.

I can understand your position. I'd just hope that you could understand (imagine) mine.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Beeeej

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Quote from: Jim HylaI'll go with Andy's. I hate to bet against teams that I'm rooting for. (But then I also don't bet for them either, I just don't bet.) It seems awkward to pick a loss and root for a win.

I can't imagine why. It's a prediction contest, not a wish list. I hope for Cornell to beat Hahvahd, but logically I believe they will lose. If picking Cornell over Hahvahd loses me the contest when I otherwise would've won, that seems awkward to me.

I would hope that you could imagine why, but maybe I wasn't clear enough. Yes this is a contest and I assume if I play, I'd like to win. On the other hand, I don't want to win by hoping that CU will lose. Therefore, since I'm going to be rooting and hoping that CU wins all their games, that's the only way I want to win.

Now if it were simply a prediction, such as is done at the beginning of the season when we predict where we think the team will be at the end, then I can easily say I don't think CU will be first in the ECAC. However I'm still rooting for that, and I don't lose if I'm wrong.

Maybe you still can't imagine why, but that's okay.

Perhaps you think that because I believe Cornell will lose to Hahvahd, and because I therefore picked Hahvahd, I am not rooting for Cornell - or even worse, that I am actively rooting for Hahvahd. You would be mistaken. I don't believe it is the least bit inconsistent to root for Cornell to win and yet accept winning the contest as a distant consolation.

Not to mention the fact that I could still win the contest even if Cornell wins that game.

I don't know why you'd think that I'd believe that you'd root against CU. I never had any comment about you, other than you're not understanding of my position.

See your comments above in bold.

My comments refer to me and my thoughts. Nowhere did I mean to imply that you'd root against CU. I certainly don't, and didn't, think that wining the contest meant more to you than CU wining. Just that, to me, it seems awkward.

I can understand your position. I'd just hope that you could understand (imagine) mine.

I do. I also know it's wrong. :-)

Anyway, we've probably beaten this to death long enough.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: Jim HylaI'll go with Andy's. I hate to bet against teams that I'm rooting for. (But then I also don't bet for them either, I just don't bet.) It seems awkward to pick a loss and root for a win.

I can't imagine why. It's a prediction contest, not a wish list. I hope for Cornell to beat Hahvahd, but logically I believe they will lose. If picking Cornell over Hahvahd loses me the contest when I otherwise would've won, that seems awkward to me.

I would hope that you could imagine why, but maybe I wasn't clear enough. Yes this is a contest and I assume if I play, I'd like to win. On the other hand, I don't want to win by hoping that CU will lose. Therefore, since I'm going to be rooting and hoping that CU wins all their games, that's the only way I want to win.

Now if it were simply a prediction, such as is done at the beginning of the season when we predict where we think the team will be at the end, then I can easily say I don't think CU will be first in the ECAC. However I'm still rooting for that, and I don't lose if I'm wrong.

Maybe you still can't imagine why, but that's okay.

Perhaps you think that because I believe Cornell will lose to Hahvahd, and because I therefore picked Hahvahd, I am not rooting for Cornell - or even worse, that I am actively rooting for Hahvahd. You would be mistaken. I don't believe it is the least bit inconsistent to root for Cornell to win and yet accept winning the contest as a distant consolation.

Not to mention the fact that I could still win the contest even if Cornell wins that game.

I don't know why you'd think that I'd believe that you'd root against CU. I never had any comment about you, other than you're not understanding of my position.

See your comments above in bold.

My comments refer to me and my thoughts. Nowhere did I mean to imply that you'd root against CU. I certainly don't, and didn't, think that wining the contest meant more to you than CU wining. Just that, to me, it seems awkward.

I can understand your position. I'd just hope that you could understand (imagine) mine.

I do. I also know it's wrong. :-)

Anyway, we've probably beaten this to death long enough.

Oh well, thanks:-)
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: BeeeejAnyway, we've probably beaten this to death long enough.
Pfft.  Nobody's even mentioned Hitler, yet.  You wouldn't survive 5 minutes on USCHO.  :-}  <-- note, this is not a stylized Pepe

BearLover

W @Prn
L @Qpc
W Clk
L SLU
L Hvd
W Drt
L @Uni
W @RPI
W Cgt
W Yal
W Brn
L @SLU
L @Clk
L Uni
W RPI


8-7 down the stretch, 17-11-1 total.  Which probably leaves them 1 game short of the NCAAs again.

Hooking

I predict that Cornell will score an average of fewer than two goals a game down the homestretch, and the opposition will score an average of more than three goals per game. This prediction eliminates the "good luck" - "bad luck" analysis of these games.

RichH

Welp. I'm officially terrified of RPI now. Thanks, Trotsky's stupid contest.

andyw2100

Quote from: Jim HylaI'll go with Andy's. I hate to bet against teams that I'm rooting for. (But then I also don't bet for them either, I just don't bet.) It seems awkward to pick a loss and root for a win.

So, Jim...on the off-chance that we tie for first in the contest, we should have a tie-breaker. How about total goals Cornell scores in the remaining games? Whomever is closest wins. (Going over is OK.) We can PM Trotsky with our predictions. What do you say?

Trotsky

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Quote from: Jim HylaI'll go with Andy's. I hate to bet against teams that I'm rooting for. (But then I also don't bet for them either, I just don't bet.) It seems awkward to pick a loss and root for a win.

So, Jim...on the off-chance that we tie for first in the contest, we should have a tie-breaker. How about total goals Cornell scores in the remaining games? Whomever is closest wins. (Going over is OK.) We can PM Trotsky with our predictions. What do you say?

If we win the next 15 I will be in no shape to do math.

Larry72

Larry Baum '72
Ithaca, NY

andyw2100

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Quote from: Jim HylaI'll go with Andy's. I hate to bet against teams that I'm rooting for. (But then I also don't bet for them either, I just don't bet.) It seems awkward to pick a loss and root for a win.

So, Jim...on the off-chance that we tie for first in the contest, we should have a tie-breaker. How about total goals Cornell scores in the remaining games? Whomever is closest wins. (Going over is OK.) We can PM Trotsky with our predictions. What do you say?

If we win the next 15 I will be in no shape to do math.

No math required. (Not to mention that Jim and I could tie for first without Cornell winning the next 15.)

If Jim likes the idea, we can just PM you our predictions and once you have them both you post them. If you declare us joint winners, we can do the goal math. (We can't just make our predictions publicly, as that would give a huge edge, in this very meaningful contest, to whomever picked second.)

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: Jim HylaI'll go with Andy's. I hate to bet against teams that I'm rooting for. (But then I also don't bet for them either, I just don't bet.) It seems awkward to pick a loss and root for a win.

So, Jim...on the off-chance that we tie for first in the contest, we should have a tie-breaker. How about total goals Cornell scores in the remaining games? Whomever is closest wins. (Going over is OK.) We can PM Trotsky with our predictions. What do you say?

If we win the next 15 I will be in no shape to do math.

No math required. (Not to mention that Jim and I could tie for first without Cornell winning the next 15.)

If Jim likes the idea, we can just PM you our predictions and once you have them both you post them. If you declare us joint winners, we can do the goal math. (We can't just make our predictions publicly, as that would give a huge edge, in this very meaningful contest, to whomever picked second.)

No, you were the first to make the prediction, so if we are tied::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::, then you are the winner. Sort of like hockey scoring, you scored the goal and I just get an assist. (Even though I didn't do anything to deserve it.)
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

andyw2100

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Quote from: andyw2100No, you were the first to make the prediction, so if we are tied::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::::banana::, then you are the winner. Sort of like hockey scoring, you scored the goal and I just get an assist. (Even though I didn't do anything to deserve it.)

Fair enough, Jim! Thanks!

If we do tie, I'll definitely split the prize money with you.

ithacat

T @Prn
L @Qpc
W Clk
L SLU
L Hvd
W Drt
L @Uni
W @RPI
W Cgt
W Yal
W Brn
L @SLU
W @Clk
L Uni
W RPI

Don't we finish the regular season with RPI then Union?

Trotsky

Quote from: ithacatDon't we finish the regular season with RPI then Union?
Shit, yes.

OK, folks, I am going to count your guess on the team (not the order) for the final two games, but you can change your results until gametime Friday.