Opponents News

Started by Trotsky, November 04, 2016, 07:01:50 PM

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scoop85

Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: BearLoverPenn State has one draft pick on team, a 7th rounder.
Sounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.

Also the Union team -- Ghostisphere was the only NHL draft pick on their roster

RichH

Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: BearLoverPenn State has one draft pick on team, a 7th rounder.
Sounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.

IIRC, the CU teams that won ECAC titles in '96-97 had 1-2 drafted players while Harvard had around 9-10.

Dafatone

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: BearLoverPenn State has one draft pick on team, a 7th rounder.
Sounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.

IIRC, the CU teams that won ECAC titles in '96-97 had 1-2 drafted players while Harvard had around 9-10.

I don't have the numbers to back this up, but draft picks tend to be younger.  A good 20 year old has more NHL promise than a great 24 year old.

Makes sense that draft picks aren't always the best players.

Rosey

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Kyle RoseSounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.

That Yale team reminded me of a college football team running the option: success predicated on the talent level of the college game and the inability of the defense to deal with it.  It can't be run in the pros because there even the linemen and the linebackers run as fast as a good college halfback.  So it makes sense that the team can dominate at the college level but the pros don't see potential in the roster.
I like this idea of recruiting and coaching to defeat one's opponents. Perhaps we should try it.
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RichH

Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Kyle RoseSounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.

That Yale team reminded me of a college football team running the option: success predicated on the talent level of the college game and the inability of the defense to deal with it.  It can't be run in the pros because there even the linemen and the linebackers run as fast as a good college halfback.  So it makes sense that the team can dominate at the college level but the pros don't see potential in the roster.
I like this idea of recruiting and coaching to defeat one's opponents. Perhaps we should try it.

Man, recruiting sounds really easy!

Trotsky

Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Kyle RoseSounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.

That Yale team reminded me of a college football team running the option: success predicated on the talent level of the college game and the inability of the defense to deal with it.  It can't be run in the pros because there even the linemen and the linebackers run as fast as a good college halfback.  So it makes sense that the team can dominate at the college level but the pros don't see potential in the roster.
I like this idea of recruiting and coaching to defeat one's opponents. Perhaps we should try it.
You've already seen it.  The Dream-Crushing Soul-Devouring Juggernaut was predicated on opponents whose offensive output would be driven into the ground faster than the opportunity cost of our style of play would cost us goals.  For each goal we would "intentionally" forgo, we could reduce the opponent's score by some x > 1.0 goals.

Our defense-first players were successful against college competition, but they made no sense in the pros where guys who were equally great defensive players were also blue chip stick handlers and playmakers.

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Kyle RoseSounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.

That Yale team reminded me of a college football team running the option: success predicated on the talent level of the college game and the inability of the defense to deal with it.  It can't be run in the pros because there even the linemen and the linebackers run as fast as a good college halfback.  So it makes sense that the team can dominate at the college level but the pros don't see potential in the roster.
I like this idea of recruiting and coaching to defeat one's opponents. Perhaps we should try it.

Man, recruiting sounds really easy!

Yeah it's real easy. Why, look at how well Yale is doing this year. Once you get that recruiting going, it just never stops.::uptosomething::
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Iceberg

Speaking of Yale, they're not doing anybody in the conference any favors tonight. 5 goals in 2 periods against BU.

Trotsky

Princeton is rolling.

At the time of our game there were quotes from coaches saying they were a lot better than their record, and it wasn't in the Lou Holtz sense.  They look dangerous.

scoop85

Quote from: TrotskyPrinceton is rolling.

At the time of our game there were quotes from coaches saying they were a lot better than their record, and it wasn't in the Lou Holtz sense.  They look dangerous.

Quite a turn-around for the Tigers.  I was at the Princeton game at Lynah, which was right before Princeton started to win, and although we fell behind we had the clear edge in play. We'll certainly need to play well when we travel to Hobey Baker.

Scersk '97

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Quote from: TrotskyPrinceton is rolling.

At the time of our game there were quotes from coaches saying they were a lot better than their record, and it wasn't in the Lou Holtz sense.  They look dangerous.

Quite a turn-around for the Tigers.  I was at the Princeton game at Lynah, which was right before Princeton started to win, and although we fell behind we had the clear edge in play. We'll certainly need to play well when we travel to Hobey Baker.

We often have a tough time there.

Yet there is another possibility in the above: that Princeton was already playing "better than their record" at Lynah, but that we've also got a pretty good team...

Trotsky

Quote from: Scersk '97Yet there is another possibility in the above: that Princeton was already playing "better than their record" at Lynah, but that we've also got a pretty good team...

That's why God made January.

This gives me pause.

scoop85

Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: TrotskyPrinceton is rolling.

At the time of our game there were quotes from coaches saying they were a lot better than their record, and it wasn't in the Lou Holtz sense.  They look dangerous.

Quite a turn-around for the Tigers.  I was at the Princeton game at Lynah, which was right before Princeton started to win, and although we fell behind we had the clear edge in play. We'll certainly need to play well when we travel to Hobey Baker.

We often have a tough time there.

Yet there is another possibility in the above: that Princeton was already playing "better than their record" at Lynah, but that we've also got a pretty good team...

Yeah, I think we have a pretty good team. The biggest difference over the past few years is we have far better balanced scoring throughout the lineup. But our margin for error is still pretty slim, and the ECAC will present some tough challenges in the 2nd half.  It's pretty important that we win the Fl. tournament given the opposition, and then beat Merrimack back at their place (which may well be the third game against them if we both take care of business in the first game in Estero).

Trotsky

Record through the first 11 games and the rest of the year:


2013 6-3-2 .636  9-13-1 .413
2014 7-3-1 .682 10- 7-4 .571
2015 5-5-1 .500  6- 9-5 .425
2016 8-1-2 .818  8-10-5 .457
2017 7-3-1 .682

Scersk '97

In reply to both of you, the return from break swoon has been a recent bug in the system. I dearly hope this year's team can avoid it.

And the Florida games are often part of that, even in good years. If we can win there and beat Merrimack afterward, we'll have a very strong out-of-conference resumé. (The current RPI and thus PWR are very "win happy," so really it's the pure wins that count, I think, rather than the quality of opposition. There's that quality win fudge, but we won't be partaking in that OOC this year.)

But really I don't care about OOC or Florida (or Merrimack). It's about that second Princeton game this year, starting off the stretch run the right way. As far as I'm concerned, this year is all about the bye.