Wrestling [2016-2017]

Started by ugarte, October 24, 2016, 10:09:21 PM

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ugarte

Quote from: martyCornell at Oklahoma is on one of the Fox stations NOW!
I just watched a bad cellphone video of it on the Big Red Wrestling Periscope.

mountainred

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: martyCornell at Oklahoma is on one of the Fox stations NOW!
I just watched a bad cellphone video of it on the Big Red Wrestling Periscope.
I was watching that live and got pretty dizzy.

ugarte

The team is in Chattanooga for the Southern Scuffle and it hasn't been great.

125: Noah Baughman is out after going 1-2.
133: #4 seed Mark Grey is in the round of 12 after going 2-1, losing to the 5 seed in OT.
141: Will Koll pulled out before the tournament. Trence Gillem went 2-2.
149: Joey Galasso pulled out before the tournament. Jonathan Furnas went 0-2.
157: Dylan Palacio pulled out before the tournament. Simaz is in the round of 12 after going 2-1 plus advancing on a forfeit.
165: Brandon Womack lost in OT in the first round but has won four in a row to get to the round of 12. Artigliere won by fall in the first round but got a concussion in the second match and defaulted out of the tournament.
174: Brian Realbuto pulled out before the tournament. We didn't have anyone at 174.
184: Gabe Dean, of course, is in the semifinals with a first period fall and a MD. His brother Max, who is spending a greyshirt year at FLCC, is 3-1 and alive in the round of 12.
197: We sent 3 wrestlers (Owen Scott, Ben Honis and Jake Anderson), plus FLCC greyshirt Ben Darmstadt. All 4 are in the round of 12. Honis (3-1) and Anderson (2-1) will face each other for a spot on the podium; Scott (2-1) and Darmstadt (2-1) will face each other if they both win.
Hwt: Craig Scott won his first round match, then got hurt in his second round match and injury defaulted out of the tournament. Jeramy Sweany went 2-2, getting pinned twice.

So, a lot of injuries, Dean is the only guy still alive in the championship bracket. 6 left in consys plus 2 greyshirts... with four guys in the same weight class. The team is sitting in 9th. This has not been great.

dag14

My concern is Realbuto and Palacio who were advertised as participating but were not in the brackets published last week.  Injuries?

mountainred

Quote from: dag14My concern is Realbuto and Palacio who were advertised as participating but were not in the brackets published last week.  Injuries?

No personal knowledge, but if they were seriously injured, I doubt they would have been entered.  Considering the sheer number of starters who were pulled late, and the overall blah performance, the likely culprit is either a flu bug or a team-wide issue with a holiday weight cut.  I think I read that Koll changed up the holiday schedule, so maybe the change didn't work out well?

ugarte

Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: dag14My concern is Realbuto and Palacio who were advertised as participating but were not in the brackets published last week.  Injuries?

No personal knowledge, but if they were seriously injured, I doubt they would have been entered.  Considering the sheer number of starters who were pulled late, and the overall blah performance, the likely culprit is either a flu bug or a team-wide issue with a holiday weight cut.  I think I read that Koll changed up the holiday schedule, so maybe the change didn't work out well?
I think Galasso and Koll have been dinged up. Don't know the deal with Palacio and Realbuto but I guess we'll hear soon.

Not a great second day.

Grey lost to an unseeded wrestler 6-0; Womack, as the 7 seed, lost to the 4 seed in OT. Max Dean gave up a takedown with 1 second left to lose 5-4. None will place.

At 197, Honis beat Anderson 8-4; both Scott and Darmstadt won. Darmstadt was supposed to face Scott next, but defaulted out (probably coach's instruction) to put Scott in the consolation semis. Honis lost his next match and will wrestle Darmstadt for 7th (though I expect another coach's decision here so Cornell gets the team points).  

Taylor Simaz has been a bright spot won a pair to get to the consolation semis.

Gabe Dean, of course, is in the final, winning his semi with a second period pin. He'll face OK State's Nolan Boyd, who gave him his only loss last year - though Dean has handled him easily in the two times they've met since.

ugarte

Quote... to put Scott in the consolation semis.
Taylor Simaz has been a bright spot won a pair to get to the consolation semis.
Simaz lost by tech fall to the 5 seed from UVA, 15-0. He'll face the 4 seed from Minnesota for 5th.

Scott lost 4-0 to Preston Weigel, the 3 seed from Oklahoma State. (Oddly, Weigel has managed to wrestle all of Cornell's 197s this year.). He'll face the 4 seed from UPenn for 5th.

ugarte

157: Simaz lost; finished 6th.
197: Scott lost; finished 6th.
197: Honis WMD over Darmstadt for 7th, showing the kid that he isn't going to hand over the starting spot next year.

184: Dean, of course, beat Boyd again. 7-2 this time, becoming only the third wrestler ever to win the Southern Scuffle four times.

The team finished in 8th, well behind Oklahoma State and, more importantly, EIWA rival Lehigh who took third.

mountainred

Quote from: ugarte157: Simaz lost; finished 6th.
197: Scott lost; finished 6th.
197: Honis WMD over Darmstadt for 7th, showing the kid that he isn't going to hand over the starting spot next year.

184: Dean, of course, beat Boyd again. 7-2 this time, becoming only the third wrestler ever to win the Southern Scuffle four times.

The team finished in 8th, well behind Oklahoma State and, more importantly, EIWA rival Lehigh who took third.

8th place with four starters out isn't the end of the world, but what a blah way to start the year.  And the Hawkineers were hitting on all cylinders.

Looking back, Womack's losses weren't that bad; sudden victory defeats to the guys who finished 4th and 6th.  So, you can argue he was close to being on the podium.  And it was nice to see Owen Scott back; he lost to the 1, 3 and 4 seeds and only J'Den Cox beat him soundly.

Still, when you start pointing out who your guys lost to, it was a tough event.

dag14

Teams were not limited to 10 wrestlers so I don't know that Lehigh's score is necessarily indicative of the team's real strength.  At one point in the team standings, Okla State had 14 wrestlers in the championship round and 4 alive in the consis -- at the end Okla had 12 wrestlers place overall.  While we also had more than 10 guys wrestling, we were missing key starters.

On the other hand, most of the weight classes were not full even for the round of 32; Gabe had a bye into the round of 16.  So good teams with a deep roster should have done well in team scoring just as a result of sheer numbers.

ugarte

Quote from: mountainred8th place with four starters out isn't the end of the world, but what a blah way to start the year.  And the Hawkineers were hitting on all cylinders.
Sure, sure. But the four starters out is it's own issue! Until I hear a benign reason for their absence I reserve the right to worry!

We got a few disappointing performances, two in-tournament injuries and only Gabe Dean finished better than 6th. When the non-Dean bright spots are Taylor Simaz and Owen Scott "not losing too badly" that's a rough tournament.
Quote from: dag14Teams were not limited to 10 wrestlers so I don't know that Lehigh's score is necessarily indicative of the team's real strength.
Lehigh did very well. If their scoring was a result of two guys placing in a weight class, that speaks well of their depth, if not NCAA tournament scoring strength. We are not showing a lot of depth behind our starters.

mountainred

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mountainred8th place with four starters out isn't the end of the world, but what a blah way to start the year.  And the Hawkineers were hitting on all cylinders.
Sure, sure. But the four starters out is it's own issue! Until I hear a benign reason for their absence I reserve the right to worry!

Hey, I don't want to deprive you of the joy of worrying.  {I know there is an smiley that fits here, but no idea which one.}  My concern is mitigated by the nice results at MSG, Vegas and Oklahoma.  If the Big Red still looks blah vs. Drexel and Mizzou, I will join you in worrying.

George64

Cornell recruit's high school career ends with injury . . .

mountainred

Quote from: George64Cornell recruit's high school career ends with injury . . .

You're just giving ugarte more reasons to worry.  :-D

ugarte

Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: George64Cornell recruit's high school career ends with injury . . .

You're just giving ugarte more reasons to worry.  :-D
lol i know about this. i'm only worried that it makes it more likely that he'll take a greyshirt year he might not have in order to get back in fighting shape.