Wrestling [2016-2017]

[Al DeFlorio]

Dean #1, BReal #2, Palacio #7, Womack #13, Grey, Honis unseeded.

[ugarte]

Dean #1, BReal #2, Palacio #7, Womack #13, Grey, Honis unseeded.

All reasonable. Given their seeds, the draws aren't too bad. Womack probably has the toughest road relative to the seed he earned. I'm looking forward to it.

[Roshaan]

Wrestling is my favorite game because it has lot of fight like war and this is real and i also like bodybuilding, and my favorite player is John Cena.

[KenP]

Wrestling is my favorite game because it has lot of fight like war and this is real and i also like bodybuilding, and my favorite player is John Cena.

Welcome to the forum Roshann!  I used to watch professional wrestling back in the day as well.  You'll find this is much more fast paced strategic battles.  Also note, the rules are completely different.  Finally, keep an eye out on this thread for weblinks - you can watch all the matches online, for free.  And the finals are live on ESPN or ESPN2.

[KenP]

Full brackets are available: http://i.turner.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/gametool/brackets/wrestling_d1_2017.pdf

Grey (133) has a play-in match against Anthony Tutolo from Kent State.  Is this just bad luck of the draw?  Winner gets #7 seed Montoya from Nebraska.

Honis (197) gets #11 seed Shawn Scott from NIU.

[ugarte]

Full brackets are available: http://i.turner.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/gametool/brackets/wrestling_d1_2017.pdf

Grey (133) has a play-in match against Anthony Tutolo from Kent State.  Is this just bad luck of the draw?  Winner gets #7 seed Montoya from Nebraska.

Honis (197) gets #11 seed Shawn Scott from NIU.

Luck of the draw. Getting the pigtail stinks because you have an extra match but all things considered Montoya isn't a terrible seeded wrestler to have to face. I wrote my thoughts on the bracket on another site; I'll copy them later and post here.

[ugarte]

133: Grey's bracket isn't too bad. His pigtail is against a guy he pinned earlier in the year and Grey has a much better record against common opponents. His common opponent comparison with Montoya isn't as bad as you'd think either. His obviously an underdog but it could have been worse. After Montoya is Erneste who IIRC handled Grey pretty easily.

157: I like Palacio's draw. The third round is always going to be tough and I'd rather be on Kemerer's side of the bracket than Nolf's. Once you get to the QF everything is supposed to be tough, so whatever. Rahmani in the first round is a funky wrestler like Palacio but his defense is worse and Palacio is crazy strong.

165: Womack has a tough draw. First round against Gunther looks good but Isaac Jordan is, uh, Isaac Jordan. Even tougher is that if he loses to Jordan he's probably looking at Keaton Subjeck from Stanford (I like his chances, but it's tough) or, worse, Branson Ashworth. Or REALLY worse, Vincenzo Joseph.

174: Brian Realbuto has a second seed's draw. Glad to see Hall on Valencia's side of the bracket. Otherwise, tough matches start at the QF as you'd expect. Can't say I'm upset that Realbuto wouldn't see Wetherspoon until the semis. That match broke my heart last year.

184: I don't give a shit about Dean's draw, really. It was pretty clear that Nickal/Brooks would be 2/3 and nothing else is interesting (knock on wood). I wouldn't have cared if Martin was on Dean's side of the bracket, though I don't mind the Big Ten slugging it out for a few rounds either. Looks like Dechow in the tournament for the third time in four years.

197: Honis has back to back tough matches. Still, he damn near beat Weigel and the way he handled Harner gives me hope that he can power through.

[mountainred]

In case you needed another reason to dislike Penn State......it turns out their 125 pound wrestler -- who took an at-large slot -- can't go.  Because the tournament starts tomorrow, the announcement is too late to allow a deserving 125 pound wrestler from another school into the draw.

Yes, I get why Penn State did it, but grrrrrrr.  Noah really should be competing in St. Louis.

[ugarte]

In case you needed another reason to dislike Penn State......it turns out their 125 pound wrestler -- who took an at-large slot -- can't go.  Because the tournament starts tomorrow, the announcement is too late to allow a deserving 125 pound wrestler from another school into the draw.

Yes, I get why Penn State did it, but grrrrrrr.  Noah really should be competing in St. Louis.

It's infuriating.

[ugarte]

First match is at noon, EDT. Mark Grey's is in the pigtail so IIRC his match should start with the opening whistle.

[nshapiro]

First match is at noon, EDT. Mark Grey's is in the pigtail so IIRC his match should start with the opening whistle.

Where can I find a schedule to know what mat to watch?

[KenP]

First match is at noon, EDT. Mark Grey's is in the pigtail so IIRC his match should start with the opening whistle.

Where can I find a schedule to know what mat to watch?

Try this:  http://s200.trackwrestling.com/tw/predefinedtournaments/MainFrame.jsp?newSession=false&loadBalanced=true&sport=wrestling&TIM=1489679294428&pageName=&ie=false&frameSize=990

Mark Grey is on Mat #2

[nshapiro]

Thanks...
Can anybody explain the reason for pigtails in this tournament?  Why is it necessary to have 33 wrestlers in each weight class, rather than 32 that would neatly fill the bracket?

[mountainred]

Thanks...
Can anybody explain the reason for pigtails in this tournament?  Why is it necessary to have 33 wrestlers in each weight class, rather than 32 that would neatly fill the bracket?

Tradition?

[ugarte]

133: Grey WMD 12-3 in his pigtail but then has a quick turnaround and has to wrestle against the #7 wrestler and
          L 6-1. He'll face Ott of Harvard next; he won that matchup earlier this year.

157: Palacio WMD 9-1. Almost gave up dumb points at the buzzer to cost himself the major but he was also trying to prevent a second stall call which also would have cost him the major. Fortunately, he held on. #10 Heffernan of CMU next.

165: Womack WMD 12-3 Dominant. Looked great. #4 Isaac Jordan of Wisconsin next. *tugs collar*

174: Realbuto WTF 19-4 Gets all those points in 3:12. Defense was a little sloppy - gave up a pair of takedowns - but was dominant on top and escaped easily from bottom. Up next #15 Engelkes from Northern Illinois. If he gets past that, his path opened up a little because the #7 guy lost in the first round.

184: Dean WMD 21-12 Dean, shockingly, did not look great. As if he felt the pressure to get a TF or a pin to win the Most Outstanding Wrestler. After a year in which he gave up only one takedown to the defending champ at 174, he gave up two to the guy he beat by Tech Fall just a couple of weeks ago at Easterns. Up next he's got Ellingwood from CMU, who he pinned earlier this year.

197 Honis L 9-2. Didn't look great. Has a promising matchup in the consolation though - a wrestler from Iowa State with a losing record.

Top 10 Team Scores:

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                              CH   CO
1. Penn State 16.0  8    1
2. Oklahoma State 15.0  9    1
3. Ohio State 14.0  7    2
4. Iowa        12.0  7    2
4. Lehigh        12.0  5    2
4. Missouri 12.0  6    2
7. Minnesota 11.0  6    3
8. [b]Cornell 10.5  4    2[/b]
9. Virginia Tech 10.0  7    0
10. Nebraska 9.5  6    1

Next session is tonight at 7 EDT. R16 plus two consolation rounds.