Wrestling [2016-2017]

Started by ugarte, October 24, 2016, 10:09:21 PM

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ugarte

Quote from: mountainredGreat summary, but aren't there 4 tickets at 197 (Meaning Honis has his AQ).
You are correct. It IS a great summary. Also, the automatic bid thing.

Bids locked at 133, 157, 165, 174, 184, 197. Still a chance for an at-large at 125 that I think he gets with a win or maaaaybe with a loss in the 3d place match. 285 is very unlikely, 149 even less likely (even with 5th) and 141 is a hard no.

Medal rounds start at 4.

125: (4) Baughman v (8) Gessner (Bucknell) for 3rd
133: (4) Grey v (5) D'Arcy (Princeton) for 3rd - D'Arcy won at Princeton, Grey won in the QF.
149: (4) Furnas v (8) Sprague (American) for 5th
157: (4) Palacio v (2) Parsons (Army) for 1st - Palacio is probably really the favorite here despite the seeding.
165: (1) Womack v (7) Martino (Penn) for 1st
174: (1) Realbuto v (2) Preisch (Lehigh) for 1st - Matchup of the tournament
184: (1) Dean v (3) Coleman (Navy) for 1st
197: (5) Honis v (7) Kasunic (American) for 3rd

Team scores;
Cornell 139 with 4 going for the title and 4 for placement
Lehigh 107.5 with 4 going for the title and 2 for placement
Princeton 99 with 2 going for the title and 5 for placement

MR is probably right that another EIWA team title is locked up.

mountainred

If Noah takes 3rd, and he's favored, I like his odds to make the NCAAs. He's ranked in the last coaches poll (i.e. the only that counts) and he has three wins over ranked opponents.  For a freshman who wasn't supposed to start, that's tremendous.

Furnas and Scott probably won't make nationals, but they are the heroes of the team race (along with Ben Honis).  The difference in the standings between the Big Red and Lehigh are their is their performance in the wrestlebacks.

ugarte

Quote from: mountainredFurnas and Scott probably won't make nationals, but they are the heroes of the team race (along with Ben Honis).  The difference in the standings between the Big Red and Lehigh are their is their performance in the wrestlebacks.
Give a ribbon to Kutler and Walter too lol.

ugarte

125: Baughman WBF 2:58. Takes 3rd. He should get an at-large bid now. What a stunningly good season from a guy who was expected to spend the year watching Macri.

133: Grey W 8-3. Takes third. Wins his second in a row over a guy who beat him during the season.

149: Furnas L 4-3 (TB). Takes 6th. Couldn't get out from under during the match or in OT.

157: Palacio W 4-2. Finishes 1st. 2x EIWA champ. Told you he was the favorite. And his opponent was a top 10 guy.

165: Womack WTF 16-1. Finishes 1st. Hell of a tournament from Bama. May have earned himself a seed at NCAA.

174: Realbuto W 3-2. Finishes 1st. 3x EIWA champ. Beats Preisch again. He'll be seeded 2 or 3 at NCAA.

184: Dean WTF 24-9. Dominant as ever. 4x EIWA champ, Going for NCAA title #3.

197: Honis W 3-1 (SV). Great run to third place and an NCAA berth.

Fantastic. Fingers crossed that we get more in with at-large bids.

ugarte

In the team competition, Cornell blew Lehigh's doors off, 163-117.5. Princeton had a great tournament, finishing right behind Lehigh.

12th EIWA title in a row for the Big Red, IIRC.

mountainred

Quote from: ugarteIn the team competition, Cornell blew Lehigh's doors off, 163-117.5. Princeton had a great tournament, finishing right behind Lehigh.

12th EIWA title in a row for the Big Red, IIRC.

Psst, it's just 11.  For now. ::uptosomething::

ugarte

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Quote from: ugarteIn the team competition, Cornell blew Lehigh's doors off, 163-117.5. Princeton had a great tournament, finishing right behind Lehigh.

12th EIWA title in a row for the Big Red, IIRC.

Psst, it's just 11.  For now. ::uptosomething::
that's what the first I is for!

Jim Hyla

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: ugarteIn the team competition, Cornell blew Lehigh's doors off, 163-117.5. Princeton had a great tournament, finishing right behind Lehigh.

12th EIWA title in a row for the Big Red, IIRC.

Psst, it's just 11.  For now. ::uptosomething::
that's what the first I is for!

Or the final C. ::looking::
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

ugarte

Quote from: ugarte125: Baughman ... What a stunningly good season from a guy who was expected to spend the year watching Macri.

Fingers crossed that we get more in with at-large bids.
The full field gets announced tomorrow. Come on, smoke-filled room - give it to Noah.

https://twitter.com/ncaawrestling/status/838873760308543488

I discussed some of the possibilities here. I think his chances are good.

ugarte

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ugarte125: Baughman ... What a stunningly good season from a guy who was expected to spend the year watching Macri.

Fingers crossed that we get more in with at-large bids.
The full field gets announced tomorrow. Come on, smoke-filled room - give it to Noah.

... I think his chances are good.
But I was wrong. Passed over. There was one fewer spot available than anticipated and, while it was close, he was probably the first man out.

mountainred

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ugarte125: Baughman ... What a stunningly good season from a guy who was expected to spend the year watching Macri.

Fingers crossed that we get more in with at-large bids.
The full field gets announced tomorrow. Come on, smoke-filled room - give it to Noah.

... I think his chances are good.
But I was wrong. Passed over. There was one fewer spot available than anticipated and, while it was close, he was probably the first man out.

Not that it matters, I was wrong with you.  I really thought Noah's good wins would get him in.

ugarte

Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ugarte125: Baughman ... What a stunningly good season from a guy who was expected to spend the year watching Macri.

Fingers crossed that we get more in with at-large bids.
The full field gets announced tomorrow. Come on, smoke-filled room - give it to Noah.

... I think his chances are good.
But I was wrong. Passed over. There was one fewer spot available than anticipated and, while it was close, he was probably the first man out.

Not that it matters, I was wrong with you.  I really thought Noah's good wins would get him in.
The NCAA should release the calculations. We can probably figure most of it out once the final CR and RPI are released but there will still be open questions: what counts as a quality win? Is 3 wins over #20 worth more than 2 over #10? How do you handle the 25% assigned to H2H when Baughman hasn't wrestled anyone else on the Bronze list?

Townsell started the year in the toilet then got way too much credit for his (excellent) performance at the Scuffle but hasn't done shit since. I didn't think he was the one I'd be most upset about because his CR is so high it was inevitable he'd get in.

mountainred

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ugarte125: Baughman ... What a stunningly good season from a guy who was expected to spend the year watching Macri.

Fingers crossed that we get more in with at-large bids.
The full field gets announced tomorrow. Come on, smoke-filled room - give it to Noah.

... I think his chances are good.
But I was wrong. Passed over. There was one fewer spot available than anticipated and, while it was close, he was probably the first man out.

Not that it matters, I was wrong with you.  I really thought Noah's good wins would get him in.
The NCAA should release the calculations. We can probably figure most of it out once the final CR and RPI are released but there will still be open questions: what counts as a quality win? Is 3 wins over #20 worth more than 2 over #10? How do you handle the 25% assigned to H2H when Baughman hasn't wrestled anyone else on the Bronze list?

Townsell started the year in the toilet then got way too much credit for his (excellent) performance at the Scuffle but hasn't done shit since. I didn't think he was the one I'd be most upset about because his CR is so high it was inevitable he'd get in.

Please, if they did that, they might not be able to get every Big 10 wrestler they want into Nationals....

ugarte

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Quote from: ugarte125: Baughman ... What a stunningly good season from a guy who was expected to spend the year watching Macri.

Fingers crossed that we get more in with at-large bids.
The full field gets announced tomorrow. Come on, smoke-filled room - give it to Noah.

... I think his chances are good.
But I was wrong. Passed over. There was one fewer spot available than anticipated and, while it was close, he was probably the first man out.

Not that it matters, I was wrong with you.  I really thought Noah's good wins would get him in.
The NCAA should release the calculations. We can probably figure most of it out once the final CR and RPI are released but there will still be open questions: what counts as a quality win? Is 3 wins over #20 worth more than 2 over #10? How do you handle the 25% assigned to H2H when Baughman hasn't wrestled anyone else on the Bronze list?

Townsell started the year in the toilet then got way too much credit for his (excellent) performance at the Scuffle but hasn't done shit since. I didn't think he was the one I'd be most upset about because his CR is so high it was inevitable he'd get in.

Please, if they did that, they might not be able to get every Big 10 wrestler they want into Nationals....
I'm going to try to work out the matrix, as I understand it. From an old Flo podcast I now know the definition of QW for at-large bids (earned conference an AQ spot and kept it at the tournament, so not Suriano or Harner or Walter lol) and think I may be able to work out the rest.

ugarte

The full seeds for NCAAs are released tomorrow but the #1 and #2 came out today. To nobody's surprise, Gabe Dean is #1 at 184 and Brian Realbuto is #2 at 174.

I think Palacio (157) will be around 5-8 and Womack will end up around 12-16. Grey (133) and Honis (194) probably don't get seeded.