Cornell lacrosse 2017

Started by billhoward, August 03, 2016, 03:52:25 PM

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Tcl123

Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: semsox
Quote from: CU77This move makes no sense at all. Who is going to take Milliman's old job for one year? What recruit is going to come under these circumstances?

Just start a search for a permanent head coach NOW!!!

I find the move bizarre as well. Not to say it can't or won't end well, but imagine a scenario where Milliman doesn't have the interim tag eventually removed. Not a pretty thought

I don't get it either.  Milliman has been in Ithaca for four years.  If you are convinced he's the right guy, give him the job.  If not, start the search.  I guess this could be a ploy to keep a pretty solid recruiting class together, but it could wreck havoc with the next two years.  Sure seems like it has more ways to end badly than end well.

Maybe the AD has eyes on someone who's contract is ending within the next 12 months? Take a run at someone who we may be able to get? For example, Presslers contract at Bryant is up next year I believe.

George64

I'm always a bit skeptical when someone leaves a good position for amorphous reasons apparently without another job in hand.  Kerwick and his family live in Skaneateles, about an hour from Ithaca in the best of circumstances, so that might figure in his decision.  Still, there's a lot of young talent on this team and if they live up to expectations, it would relieve much of the pressure on him. It will be interesting to see where he lands.

CU77

I suspect MK's contract was up (it's been 3 years since the interim tag was removed) and that he wanted another multiyear contract, but AN was only willing to go year by year. Sheer guesswork on my part, I have no actual info.

I don't believe there's a mystery candidate in 2018. I think AN is just being wishy-washy.

Pressler will not leave Bryant, and especially not for a place where the last two lax coaches' tenures have both come to mysterious ends ...

Ken711

If you want to follow this discussion on Laxpower.  The overwhelming majority of posts feel a coaching search should have begun now.

http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61576&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=940

Swampy

Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: semsox
Quote from: CU77This move makes no sense at all. Who is going to take Milliman's old job for one year? What recruit is going to come under these circumstances?

Just start a search for a permanent head coach NOW!!!

I find the move bizarre as well. Not to say it can't or won't end well, but imagine a scenario where Milliman doesn't have the interim tag eventually removed. Not a pretty thought

I don't get it either.  Milliman has been in Ithaca for four years.  If you are convinced he's the right guy, give him the job.  If not, start the search.  I guess this could be a ploy to keep a pretty solid recruiting class together, but it could wreck havoc with the next two years.  Sure seems like it has more ways to end badly than end well.

I don't find the recruiting-class argument convincing. New recruits are coming to Cornell for 4 years, so incoming recruits in 2017 there's only one year of certainty; with recruits still in the pipeline, there's four full years of uncertainty. If Cornell hired a new lacrosse coach this spring, like every other school/sport that loses its coach in the spring (due to firings, jumping jobs, or whatever), then we'd have a new coach in place by, say, July at the latest and eliminate all the uncertainty. Some recruits might still choose to go elsewhere, but it seems to me the likelihood of this is greater with an unknown coach coming in a year from now. If a coach search were underway right now for the 2018 season, I think most recruits would wait and see who the new coach is before jumping ship. If it's Tierney, they'd all probably stay and we might pick up a few more. If it's some schmo, they might all transfer. But the chance of some schmo being hired in a year is likely to scare off recruits even if the fear is unwarranted.

I'm not sure what role Milliman plays in all this. From what I've read, he's not the sort of guy who attracts recruits. But even if this is wrong and keeping him is necessary to retain recruits, then renew his contract as AC for a year or two but search for a new coach now.

Besides, I see nothing in AN's history that even suggests he takes into account the impact of a coaching change on already existing recruiting.

billhoward

Inside Lacrosse ranks the teams on odds of going all the way. Albany, not Maryland, is #1. Interesting: 2-seed Syracuse is only ranked 10th on odds of winning the title, 6-seed Hopkins is ranked 12th, 9-seed UNC is ranked 14th. Yale is essentially a pick-em vs. Syracuse (Sunday, 7:30), 49% odds of advancing. First column is IL's ranking on odds of winning the title. Second column is NCAA seeding.

Rank Seed Team             Championship Win Odds
1.    8.  Albany           12%
2.   11.  Duke             11%
3.    1.  Maryland         10%
...
10.   2.  Syracuse          5%
11.  15.  Yale              5%


Note: In D-III, NCAA runner-up 2016 Tufts won its second round game over Keene (NH) State 26-24. A goal every 70 seconds.

billhoward

Saturday
First game, first upset: Towson 12, Penn State (7-seed) 8. Maybe Tambroni is jinxed come tourney time. Towson gets the Yale at Syracuse winner.
Second game, second upset: Duke 18, Hopkins (6-seed) 6 (9:18 to play). Final, 19-6. Maybe Cornell has become the cradle of one-and-done lax coaches.
Third game, 5-seed Denver beats Air Force, 17-10.
Night game, UNC, defending champ, at Albany. UNC gets the first goal, Albany rolls off 6 straight, UNC scores its second with :10 to play, Albany takes 6 seconds to get it back. Albany 7-2 after one. 14-3 at the half. UNC goalies 3 saves on 17 SOG. Third quarter, Albany attack disappears, no goals, UNC gets 6, 14-9 after three. Albany finally gets one goal late in the fourth and holds on, 15-12. Carolina puts on pressure in the second half and it was almost enough. Great game. Albany faces 1-seed Maryland assuming it doesn't fall to play-in winner Bryant Sunday.

Sunday
4-seed Notre Dame disposes of Marquette 15-9, plays 5-seed Denver.
1-seed Maryland only led Bryant 6-4 at the half, Maryland opened it up to 11-5 after three, Bryant closed a bit at the end, final 13-10. Maryland-Albany will be a key game next Sunday.
3-seed Ohio State leads Loyola 3-2 at the half, 6-4 after three, and a late goal makes it 7-4 final. Played at Ohio Stadium, capacity 104,944. Talk about optimism. On to play Duke Saturday.
2-seed Syracuse vs. Yale, Yale up 6-4 at the half, outshooting Syracuse about 3-1 (many shots at the corners, always backed up by Yale). Syracuse gets the game's last goal, wins 11-10. Yale had possession with a minute to go and 2 timeouts in hand, played on and lost the ball, Syracuse ran out the clock. Two points of note thinking of the Cornell-Syracuse 2009 title game (that never happened): Syracuse scored with less than 2 seconds to play at the end of the second and third, and at the end to protect the lead in the final seconds, Syracuse just tossed the ball up in the air, and by the time the ball came down (to Yale), there wasn't enough to do much of anything.

upprdeck

UNC almost blew a 9 goal lead last week and wouldnt even have gotten in and this week almost came back from an 11 goal deficit.. thats pretty crazy to have almost been outscored by 20 goals over 4 quarters and almost won both games.

billhoward

Jeff Teat named honorable mention All-America (Media / Inside Lacrosse version). Pannell at this stage was third-team, but on a team headed to the NCAA title game in 2009.

Only first-team AA from the Ivies were Princeton middie Zach Currier and Brown LSM Larken Kemp. The second-team attack was all Ivy League: Ben Reeves, Yale; (freshman) Michael Sowers, Princeton; and reigning Tewaaraton winner Dylan Molloy, Brown.

Inside Lacrosse Media All-America Team http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2017/5/15/mens-lacrosse-jeff-teat-named-inside-lacrosse-media-all-american.aspx
First Team
A-Connor Fields, Albany
A-Matt Rambo, Maryland
A-Pat Spencer, Loyola
M-Sergio Salcido, Syracuse
M-Zach Currier, Princeton
M-Connor Kelly, Maryland
FO-Trevor Baptiste, Denver
SSDM-Isaiah Davis-Allen, Maryland
LSM-Larken Kemp, Brown
D-Tim Muller, Maryland
D-Brendan Hynes, Richmond
D-Scott Firman, Syracuse
G-Benny Pugh, Richmond

Second Team
A-Ben Reeves, Yale
A-Michael Sowers, Princeton
A-Dylan Molloy, Brown
M-Nick Mariano, Syracuse
M-Sergio Perkovic, Notre Dame
M-Joel Tinney, Johns Hopkins
FO-TD Ierlan, Albany (from Victor NY, ranked 58 on IL Top 100 freshmen; same school as Cornell's Ryan Maloney, ranked 45).
SSDM-Zach Goodrich, Towson
LSM-John Sexton, Notre Dame
D-Ben Randall, Ohio State
D-Garrett Epple, Notre Dame
D-Nick Fields, Johns Hopkins
G-Jack Concannon, Hofstra

Third Team
A-Justin Guterding, Duke
A-Connor Cannizzaro, Denver
A-Tom Moore, Binghamton
M-Jake Froccaro, Villanova
M-Ryan Conrad, Virginia
M-Jack Curran, Villanova
FO-Jake Withers, Ohio State
SSDM-Jack Adams, Towson
LSM-Matt Rees, Navy
D-Austin Pifani, North Carolina
D-Jarrod Neumann, Providence
D-Michael Rexrode, Rutgers
G-Christian Carson-Banister, Boston U.

Honorable Mention
Attack: Josh Byrne, Hofstra; Jeff Teat, Cornell; Zed Williams, Virginia; Nick Aponte, Penn State; Chris Cloutier, North Carolina; Tre LeClaire, Ohio State

Midfield: Dox Aitken, Virginia; Eric Scott, Yale; Cal Dearth, Boston U.; Kyle McClancy, Albany; Brian Sherlock, Loyola

Face-Off: Ben Williams, Syracuse; Stephen Kelly, North Carolina; Gerard Arceri, Penn State

Shortstick D-Middie: Drew Schantz, Notre Dame; Tate Jozokos, North Carolina; Tyler Warner, Yale; Thomas Zenker, Duke

Longstick Middie: Chris Keating, Penn; Tyler Mayes, Towson; Matt Neufeldt, Maryland; Troy Reh, Albany; Craig Chick, Lehigh

Defense: Cade van Raaphorst, Duke; Christian Burgdorf, Denver; Chris Fennell, Navy; Alec Tulett, Brown; Chris Sabia, Penn State; Jack Carrigan, Loyola; Stone Sims, Albany

Goalie: Dan Morris, Maryland; Tom Carey, Ohio State; Jacob Stover, Loyola; Tate Boyce, Providence; Nick Hreshko, Monmouth

billhoward

Quarterfinals, Saturday:

3-seed Ohio State with 9 in the second taking it to Duke 9-4 (halftime). Despite a 6-3 fourth quarter, Duke falls 16-11. A matchup where it'd be nice for both teams to lose.  

5-seed Denver jumps to an 8-1 halftime lead over 4-seed Notre Dame, wins 16-4.

Sunday:

Towson 10, 2-seed Syracuse 7. Factoid from the announcers: As a 1- or 2-seed, Syracuse has been taken down 5 of 6 times.

1-seed Maryland is pummeling Albany, 16-5 in the third. Final 18-9. Albany looked so explosive a week ago.

Next weekend, Towson vs. Ohio State, Denver vs. Maryland. I'm rooting for Cinderalla Towson.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: billhowardQuarterfinals, Saturday:

3-seed Ohio State with 9 in the second taking it to Duke 9-4 (halftime). Despite a 6-3 fourth quarter, Duke falls 16-11. A matchup where it'd be nice for both teams to lose.  

5-seed Denver jumps to an 8-1 halftime lead over 4-seed Notre Dame, wins 16-4.

Sunday:

Towson 10, 2-seed Syracuse 7. Factoid from the announcers: As a 1- or 2-seed, Syracuse has been taken down 5 of 6 times.

1-seed Maryland is pummeling Albany, 16-5 in the third. Final 18-9. Albany looked so explosive a week ago.

Next weekend, Towson vs. Ohio State, Denver vs. Maryland. I'm rooting for Cinderalla Towson.

With all their 1 goal wins, SU was ready to lose. And they have no one to blame than themselves, with an overly aggressive first period leading to the loss.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

jeff '84

Towson's goalie has a good knowledge of history, even though there is no record of the game to which he refers.

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/photos-recap-analysis-towson-tops-cuse-10-7-heads-back-to-first-final-four-since-2001/49598

"You want to know? Honestly when I thought we had it, was when there was around :03 left and we had the ball," Hoy said. "I started to get flashbacks of the Syracuse-Cornell championship [in 2009], when Syracuse came back to win. I was thinking in my head that could happen here today, and all of that anxiety left, finally, when coach Nads called a timeout with around :03 left."

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: jeff '84Towson's goalie has a good knowledge of history, even though there is no record of the game to which he refers.

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/photos-recap-analysis-towson-tops-cuse-10-7-heads-back-to-first-final-four-since-2001/49598

"You want to know? Honestly when I thought we had it, was when there was around :03 left and we had the ball," Hoy said. "I started to get flashbacks of the Syracuse-Cornell championship [in 2009], when Syracuse came back to win. I was thinking in my head that could happen here today, and all of that anxiety left, finally, when coach Nads called a timeout with around :03 left."

What history?  That never happened.  ::whistle::

KenP

Damn all of you.

And it was :09 left.

billhoward

Cornell freshman Jeff Teat is also an honorable mention All-America on the USILA team.
USILA story:   http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/usila-announces-2017-division-i-all-americans/49639
Cornell story: http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2017/5/24/mens-lacrosse-jeff-teat-named-usila-all-american.aspx

With USIULA, it's not quite the rarified company as the media / Inside Lacrosse AA team. USILA has for All-America at attack:

 4   first team (incluing Ben Reeves, Yale)
 3   second team
 4   third team
24   honorable mention (but just 1 HM goalie)

Quote from: CornellBigRed.comTeat is in rarified company, joining Paul Schimoler '89, Ryan McClay '03, Max Seibald '09, and Rob Pannell '13 as the only Big Red to be named All-American during their freshmen seasons.