NCAA tournament 2016

[jtwcornell91]

As I've said before, I'm not in the camp that roots against the ECAC in the NCAAs, but I've made an exception for Quinnipiac Marketing Solutions, Inc., so thank goodness they didn't win it.  First champion from the NCHC and first Western Champion since the B1g T6n blew up all the conferences out there.  I did get pretty tired of hearing about the end of NoDak's intolerably long 16-year title drought, though.  Geez, I can remember the last time they won it.

[Dafatone]

I'm not exactly in love with Q, but screw NoDak, which is to say, bah.

[BearLover]

::banana::

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

I've always liked N. Dakota, going back to the Frozen Four in '80.  Nice fans, good program.  And it was always their job to keep the goofer fans in place.

Congrats, Sioux.

And a trivia question for you stats types:  Is this the first national championship in any sport between two teams who changed their names to be more PC (whether voluntarily or not)?

[redice]

I've always liked N. Dakota, going back to the Frozen Four in '80.  Nice fans, good program.  And it was always their job to keep the goofer fans in place.

Congrats, Sioux.

I'm with you on this one, Jeff... There were my pick when the four teams were filtered down.   Go Sioux!!

[jtwcornell91]

Congratulations Flickertails! :-}

[scoop85]

That top line for UND was filthy.  Talk about offensive skill and flair!

I'd forgotten how awful Buccigross is doing PBP (although he gets an A for enthusiasm).  Melrose is just plain awful.

[Scersk '97]

I've always liked N. Dakota, going back to the Frozen Four in '80.  Nice fans, good program.  And it was always their job to keep the goofer fans in place.

Agreed. I've heard "Minnesota Nice" is a sham, but "North Dakota Nice" is for real.

And, like BearLover, I'll give QU losing a: ::banana::

I've made my peace with Yale winning; I was happy to see Union (a small school) paste Minnesota. But a Hamden U. national championship would've stuck in my craw.

[marty]

I've always liked N. Dakota, going back to the Frozen Four in '80.  Nice fans, good program.  And it was always their job to keep the goofer fans in place.

Congrats, Sioux.

I'm with you on this one, Jeff... There were my pick when the four teams were filtered down.   Go Sioux!!

I liked the way the team started the Sioux cheer after getting the trophy.  Take that NCAA! Also it's hard not to enjoy Pecknold in the grip of a better foe.

[imafrshmn]

I've always liked N. Dakota, going back to the Frozen Four in '80.  Nice fans, good program.  And it was always their job to keep the goofer fans in place.

Congrats, Sioux.

I'm with you on this one, Jeff... There were my pick when the four teams were filtered down.   Go Sioux!!

I liked the way the team started the Sioux cheer after getting the trophy.  Take that NCAA! Also it's hard not to enjoy Pecknold in the grip of a better foe.

I think it's really unfortunate that defying the NCAA seems to be a motivator for continuing to say Sioux. It's almost as if nobody from the UND hockey community took the time to reflect on why the name is problematic. Fighting Hawks is an awful team name for a different reason (it's completely generic), but the fact that it sucks only encourages people to continue saying Sioux. "Tradition" is not a valid reason for perpetuating anything, especially racist cultural appropriations.

That said, "Quinnipiac University" is also a problematic indian appropriation in my eyes. Anyway, I enjoyed the hockey game and liked watching UND's talent shine.

[Rita]

Watching the game streamed with all the ambient noise and no commentary is the most pleasant broadcast I've ever experienced.  PLEASE make this an option for all sports telecasts.  Nobody needs the natterers.  Silence them for good.

especially if it is buccigross. he's even worse at hockey play-by-play than the kids on the Yale feed.   Can't believe he gets paid to do that.

Well, you know. He's the goddamned pope of #collegehockey. He has a clothing line. People on Twitter think he's great.

I read somewhere that when he negotiated is latest contract with ESPN, that was the only stipulation he had in there: doing the TV for the Frozen Four. Not sure how much longer the contract has on it.

[Scersk '97]

That said, "Quinnipiac University" is also a problematic indian appropriation in my eyes. Anyway, I enjoyed the hockey game and liked watching UND's talent shine.

I guess we'll have to rename the river, many other geological features, and much of everything in upstate New York.

Is it better to erase history or to come to grips with it in all its complexity?

[billhoward]

That said, "Quinnipiac University" is also a problematic indian appropriation in my eyes. Anyway, I enjoyed the hockey game and liked watching UND's talent shine.

I guess we'll have to rename the river, many other geological features, and much of everything in upstate New York. Is it better to erase history or to come to grips with it in all its complexity?

Or dig deeper to understand the context and perhaps find that one use of an Indian name honors the heritage and another is a stereotype? Reading only a little about Ralph Englestadt makes him (and his causes) a figure you don't sympathize with.

[Trotsky]

There is a perfectly good American solution to this problem.  Just pay the tribe off.

[billhoward]

There is a perfectly good American solution to this problem.  Just pay the tribe off.

Wall Street Journal story from the 1980s/1990s talked about how more people were self-identifying as Native American. The story lead was ~ "More people are identifying themselves as Indian now because it's a better deal being Indian."