ECAC 2015-16

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RichH

Quote from: gjp84Alex Lyon apparently not returning for his senior year at Yale. I really had no idea he'll be the first to leave early under Keith Allain.

http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20160329/yale-goaltender-alex-lyon-to-forgo-senior-season-sign-nhl-contract

Can anybody name a goaltender who made an immediate impact in the NHL other than Ken Dryden? All the collegiate greats, Belfour, Robb Stauber, Tim Thomas, Ryan Miller, Jimmy Howard, Brian Elliott, Yann Danis...all of them took at least 2-3 years after college in the minors to have any staying power at the NHL level. Lyon is solid, but I doubt we'll see him in the NHL before 2018, if at all. I mean, just two years ago, I saw an AHL game where David LeNeveu faced off against Dov Grumet-Morris.

Good ol' nutjob Tim Thomas. Who said at the end of his Vermont days that he was ready to go take over for Patrick Roy in Colorado, but then made his NHL debut 6 years later. He didn't become a regular starter in the NHL until nearly a decade after graduating.


And this is a fine place to take what should be my annual shot at how ridiculous it is that the NATIONAL goaltender award is named for Mike Richter. His two years at Wisconsin were pretty weak, and doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the above list of collegiate goaltenders.

In conclusion and in summary, all college goaltending awards should be named after Dryden, the end.

redice

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: gjp84Alex Lyon apparently not returning for his senior year at Yale. I really had no idea he'll be the first to leave early under Keith Allain.

http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20160329/yale-goaltender-alex-lyon-to-forgo-senior-season-sign-nhl-contract

Can anybody name a goaltender who made an immediate impact in the NHL other than Ken Dryden

Scratch Dryden's name from that list, as well...   He graduated in 1969.....   And didn't impact the NHL until the 1971 Stanley Cup playoffs.....
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

Chris '03

Quick comes to mind recently. He made it faster than most I think. Not quite immediate though.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

Swampy

Quote from: redice
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: gjp84Alex Lyon apparently not returning for his senior year at Yale. I really had no idea he'll be the first to leave early under Keith Allain.

http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20160329/yale-goaltender-alex-lyon-to-forgo-senior-season-sign-nhl-contract

Can anybody name a goaltender who made an immediate impact in the NHL other than Ken Dryden

Scratch Dryden's name from that list, as well...   He graduated in 1969.....   And didn't impact the NHL until the 1971 Stanley Cup playoffs.....

I'm probably wrong with this, but wasn't that because he chose to do something else first? Law school, I think.

Trotsky

Quote from: SwampyI'm probably wrong with this, but wasn't that because he chose to do something else first? Law school, I think.
I thought Law School was why he took a hiatus in the middle of his NHL career.

Trotsky

Quote from: rediceScratch Dryden's name from that list, as well...   He graduated in 1969
That's impossible.  ESPN has been telling me all these years he was goaltender for the undefeated 1970 national championship team...

RichH

Quote from: Chris '03Quick comes to mind recently. He made it faster than most I think. Not quite immediate though.

Good call. Quick left UMass after 2006-07, and was up in the NHL for good by mid-December 2008. That's a season and a half, and about the quickest (sorry) I've found in the current era.

Our own Darren Eliot '83 spent a year on Team Canada for the Olympics before landing a part-time role in LA for 1984-85.
Brian Hayward '82 split the 82-83 season between AHL and NHL.

redice

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: SwampyI'm probably wrong with this, but wasn't that because he chose to do something else first? Law school, I think.
I thought Law School was why he took a hiatus in the middle of his NHL career.
+1

And he did play a little AHL hockey..  I recall seeing a newspaper article about a Rochester Amerks game against Montreal's AHL team, where Dryden had 60+ saves in a 6-6 tie...   Real sketchy on this memory..  But it was an extraordinary number of saves for Dryden.    And,  he played for the Canadian National Team 1969-70..
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

redice

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: rediceScratch Dryden's name from that list, as well...   He graduated in 1969
That's impossible.  ESPN has been telling me all these years he was goaltender for the undefeated 1970 national championship team...

And we all know that ESPN is never wrong...:-)
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

RichH

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: rediceScratch Dryden's name from that list, as well...   He graduated in 1969
That's impossible.  ESPN has been telling me all these years he was goaltender for the undefeated 1970 national championship team...

Also, the in-game PA announcer for neutral site games, often. I'm pretty sure it was also in a trivia question on the jumbotron at an NCAA game out west.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: redice
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: SwampyI'm probably wrong with this, but wasn't that because he chose to do something else first? Law school, I think.
I thought Law School was why he took a hiatus in the middle of his NHL career.
+1

And he did play a little AHL hockey..  I recall seeing a newspaper article about a Rochester Amerks game against Montreal's AHL team, where Dryden had 60+ saves in a 6-6 tie...   Real sketchy on this memory..  But it was an extraordinary number of saves for Dryden.    And,  he played for the Canadian National Team 1969-70..

After the 1969 NCAAs he joined the Canadian National Team in Stockholm. However that team was disbanded in early 1970, I think because pros were then allowed to play international competition. As an amateur, with the National Team in the fall of 1970, I always assumed he started law school then. But I don't know that for sure. It would make sense since he finished his law requirements in the year off. He played in the AHL 1970-71 till he got called up for that wonderful post-season run.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

jkahn

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: redice
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: SwampyI'm probably wrong with this, but wasn't that because he chose to do something else first? Law school, I think.
I thought Law School was why he took a hiatus in the middle of his NHL career.
+1

And he did play a little AHL hockey..  I recall seeing a newspaper article about a Rochester Amerks game against Montreal's AHL team, where Dryden had 60+ saves in a 6-6 tie...   Real sketchy on this memory..  But it was an extraordinary number of saves for Dryden.    And,  he played for the Canadian National Team 1969-70..

After the 1969 NCAAs he joined the Canadian National Team in Stockholm. However that team was disbanded in early 1970, I think because pros were then allowed to play international competition. As an amateur, with the National Team in the fall of 1970, I always assumed he started law school then. But I don't know that for sure. It would make sense since he finished his law requirements in the year off. He played in the AHL 1970-71 till he got called up for that wonderful post-season run.
In '70-'71 Ken attending McGill Law School while also playing for the AHL Nova Scotia Voyageurs.  The Habs let him work his AHL schedule so he largely played the weekend games, so he could attend law school.  Then he got called up, playing six games at the end of the season and then all 20 playoff games.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

Jim Hyla

Quote from: gjp84Alex Lyon apparently not returning for his senior year at Yale. I really had no idea he'll be the first to leave early under Keith Allain.

http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20160329/yale-goaltender-alex-lyon-to-forgo-senior-season-sign-nhl-contract

Lyon signs with Flyers, gives up final season at Yale

And from Yale Daily News:  

QuoteAccording to Lyon, earning a degree remains a priority, and he plans to graduate from Yale in the future. Though no official plan has been detailed, this will most likely come through summer classes this year and a combination of summer classes and online classes in the future to obtain the additional necessary credits.

Meanwhile, Lyon will finish up classes at Yale this semester until he receives more definite plans from Philadelphia.

And:

QuoteHead coach Keith Allain '80, who is seeing a player leave his team early to turn pro for the first time in his 10-year tenure at Yale, expressed nothing but pride and excitement following the news.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim HylaQuinnipiac's Pecknold gets Spencer Penrose Award as top Division I men's coach
That's 3 ECAC coaches (Leaman, Bennett) out of the last 6, after a 10 year dry spell.

Mike had his shot in '03 but he was beaten out by Bob Daniels of Ferris, who has since gone on to win it again.