ECAC 2015-16

Started by Iceberg, November 05, 2015, 07:18:29 PM

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Jim Hyla

This is clearly one of those times when the honest thing to do would be for RPI to decline the win. Judging by Appert's statements, that'll be a cold day in hell.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

RichH


Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Jim HylaThis is clearly one of those times when the honest thing to do would be for RPI to decline the win. Judging by Appert's statements, that'll be a cold day in hell.
We should all send Appert the Fifth Down article in the current Cornell Alumni magazine.
Al DeFlorio '65

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: RichHHmmmm...funny time for the replay system to "fail" when the home team benefits. At a tech school.
Many stories--perhaps apocryphal, perhaps not--of strange failures at Houston when Ned's RPI teams needed a breather.
Al DeFlorio '65

upprdeck

i thought the no goal was because he was ruling the first Save by the D kept it out and had little to do with the net. just a bad call and as it was on TV why didnt they use the TV replay too?

ursusminor

Quote from: Jim HylaThis is clearly one of those times when the honest thing to do would be for RPI to decline the win. Judging by Appert's statements, that'll be a cold day in hell.

"win"?

Considering how mysterious the penalty was that put Brown on the power play leading to the goal, I think that justice was served.

I also add that RPI-TV is not part of the league video requirements. If they look at that they would then have to start looking at numerous cell phone videos for each goal under review. It has to be uniform in the league if not the NCAA.

upprdeck

i thought the rule said if tv replay was available they could use it not that it had to be used.

marty

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Quote from: Jim HylaThis is clearly one of those times when the honest thing to do would be for RPI to decline the win. Judging by Appert's statements, that'll be a cold day in hell.

"win"?

Considering how mysterious the penalty was that put Brown on the power play leading to the goal, I think that justice was served.

I also add that RPI-TV is not part of the league video requirements. If they look at that they would then have to start looking at numerous cell phone videos for each goal under review. It has to be uniform in the league if not the NCAA.

Not much mystery here, but as they say the your eyesight may vary:


"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

marty

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Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: Jim HylaThis is clearly one of those times when the honest thing to do would be for RPI to decline the win. Judging by Appert's statements, that'll be a cold day in hell.

"win"?

Considering how mysterious the penalty was that put Brown on the power play leading to the goal, I think that justice was served.

I also add that RPI-TV is not part of the league video requirements. If they look at that they would then have to start looking at numerous cell phone videos for each goal under review. It has to be uniform in the league if not the NCAA.

Not much mystery here, but as they say the your eyesight may vary:



Bourbonnais played a bit of music on the boards with his head.  Of course the retired pee wee refs in section 7 saw this differently too.  They always have better view than the zebras on the ice.


Since RPI TV had the overhead view that the refs were entitled to see it isn't really fair to compare this to a hypthetical cell phone camera.

I'm amazed at the Brown team that won two in OT this weekend.  Parity is an interesting dance partner.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

David Harding

Quote from: upprdecki thought the rule said if tv replay was available they could use it not that it had to be used.
The NCAA rule book goes into detail on how a review using replay is to be conducted, under what cicumstatnces, how the off-ice video replay official interacts with the referee, and so forth.  The current rule book is completely silent on what constitutes a minimal or ideal video camera configuration, who provides it, how it is operated, or anything else about acquiring images.  I can't fnd anything that looks like league rules on the ECACHL web site except for the tournament seeding rules.

TimV

Very true.  Especially about Section 7.  But I think Ralph's point was that RPI can't decline the "win" because the game ended in a tie. But maybe now the endemic RPI attitude that the refs are always screwing them will go away.

Naaaaahhhhhhhh. They'll say they were owed that one.::wank::
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

ursusminor

Quote from: TimVVery true.  Especially about Section 7.  But I think Ralph's point was that RPI can't decline the "win" because the game ended in a tie. But maybe now the endemic RPI attitude that the refs are always screwing them will go away.

Naaaaahhhhhhhh. They'll say they were owed that one.::wank::
Yes, that was my point.

The refs almost always screw us. :) They did count George Servinis's goal in the 1985 NCAA final despite the fact that he was offside.

Trotsky

Quote from: ursusminorThe refs almost always screw us.   They did count George Servinis's goal in the 1985 NCAA final despite the fact that he was offside.
I'd say you still come out ahead.

RichH

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ursusminorThe refs almost always screw us.   They did count George Servinis's goal in the 1985 NCAA final despite the fact that he was offside.
I'd say you still come out ahead.

At this point, I'd trade that for years of constant bad calls.

RichH

Really, I'd kind of pay a little bit of money to hear the Brown Radio Guys' (heretofore: BRG) call on this. After all, the only reason they haven't won 6 straight NCAA championships at this point is because of an all-encompasing conspiracy by the stone-cutters' guild of hockey referees to make sure every call goes against Brown. Proven by the fact that an inferior crosstown school was handed the championship in April just to rub it in.