Future Coaching?

Started by LynahFaithful, June 09, 2015, 11:01:18 PM

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Trotsky

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Quote from: TrotskySo, I know exactly how I want Cornell to play hockey, having now watched the Royals take the Mets apart last night, again, just like they did in the WS.

That constant pressure and intensity and keeping your head in every second of the game and scrapping for every tiny advantage and not letting up for an instant; good god, it just shatters lesser teams mentally.  It's exhausting just watching it, let alone having to deal with it on the ice.

The only hockey team I've ever seen do that was the 85 RPI national champions.  Take that, season with some decent talent (which we have) and backstop it with a goalie who can save you for the handful of D breakdowns that you will give up (which we have... at least I think), and it will produce wins.  And a helluva lot of fun. And maybe a heart attack on the bench.
Every team, Cornell especially, is already trying to do this.
I disagree with that premise, although it may stem from a different interpretation. What he's implying to me is the type of high pressure system attack points at blue line system that he's been advocated, as opposed to a more Torts/Schafer/90s-2000s Devils clog the neutral zone, block shots, collapse around the goalie. Basically he's talking about the hockey equivalent of running the old Arkansas 40 minutes of hell full court press defense.

That is what I meant; in fact I had the Arkansas squad in mind and ought to have mentioned them.

Jim Hyla

Guys, this is a hockey thread. I hope?::worry:: There is another forum for "Other Sports".
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

marty

Quote from: Jim HylaGuys, this is a hockey thread. I hope?::worry:: There is another forum for "Other Sports".

If you call that a sport.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

ugarte

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Quote from: ugarteAnyway, I think about this article (in part about how eventually statistics redeemed old scouting opinions regarding catcher defense that the statheads had dismissed as nonsense but mostly about humility) all the time when I think about the Royals' emphasis on contact, speed and defense (and a shut-down bullpen).
Thanks for that link. Great read.
It's the best serious article about baseball I've ever read. The best non-serious article is this one.

ugarte

Quote from: Jim HylaGuys, this is a hockey thread. I hope?::worry:: There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.

The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.

Trotsky

Quote from: ugarteThe main point of this thread is dead, Jim.

Not until he re-signs it's not.

KeithK

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Quote from: ugarteThe main point of this thread is dead, Jim.

Not until he re-signs it's not.
What if Topher jumping ship means he knew something that we don't?

(Just stirring the pot as I wait for the Yankees home opener.)

marty

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Quote from: ugarteThe main point of this thread is dead, Jim.

Not until he re-signs it's not.
What if Topher jumping ship means he knew something that we don't?

(Just stirring the pot as I wait for the Yankees home opener.)

What makes you think Topher wasn't forced to walk the plank?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: Jim HylaGuys, this is a hockey thread. I hope?::worry:: There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.

The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.

Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

ugarte

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Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim HylaGuys, this is a hockey thread. I hope?::worry:: There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.

The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.

Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
Read the article and calm down.

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim HylaGuys, this is a hockey thread. I hope?::worry:: There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.

The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.

Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
Read the article and calm down.

Why do you think I'm not calm? Was it something I said?

I was responding to the general drift of the thread and wasn't particularly interested in everybody's thoughts on their favorite, and not so favorite, teams. I wasn't responding to any article.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

ugarte

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Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim HylaGuys, this is a hockey thread. I hope?::worry:: There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.

The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.

Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
Read the article and calm down.

Why do you think I'm not calm? Was it something I said?

I was responding to the general drift of the thread and wasn't particularly interested in everybody's thoughts on their favorite, and not so favorite, teams. I wasn't responding to any article.
this is what the thread is now

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: Jim Hyla
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Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim HylaGuys, this is a hockey thread. I hope?::worry:: There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.

The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.

Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
Read the article and calm down.

Why do you think I'm not calm? Was it something I said?

I was responding to the general drift of the thread and wasn't particularly interested in everybody's thoughts on their favorite, and not so favorite, teams. I wasn't responding to any article.
this is what the thread is now

So therefore it belongs in "Other Sports".:-D
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

ugarte

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Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim HylaGuys, this is a hockey thread. I hope?::worry:: There is another forum for "Other Sports".
The main point of this thread is dead, Jim. Circular, tedious, the sides have fully presented their cases to the sad end of convincing nobody.

The drift is the only thing worth coming back for.

Then put the drift in another forum and don't post here till there is more hockey news.
Read the article and calm down.

Why do you think I'm not calm? Was it something I said?

I was responding to the general drift of the thread and wasn't particularly interested in everybody's thoughts on their favorite, and not so favorite, teams. I wasn't responding to any article.
this is what the thread is now

So therefore it belongs in "Other Sports".:-D
But it isn't there.

Dafatone

To get back to kinda-relevance, one thing I liked in that (fantastic) article on sabermetrics and catcher defense is the idea that advanced metrics change depending on the conditions of the league at the time.  Back when everyone was blasting homers, a catcher that got on base more was a big deal because baserunners pretty much all scored.  Now that nobody's scoring, catcher defense may matter more.

Similarly, we've talked a little about applying some hockey metrics to college hockey.  It's important to note (as some folks have done) that hockey metrics are developed based on NHL data, and that what's valuable in the NHL may not correlate to value in college hockey.  Granted, there'll be some correlation.  More shots is better than fewer shots.  More puck possession is better than less puck possession.

But maybe our metrics aren't where they need to be just yet to really dig into what's going on in the college level.