Future Coaching?

Started by LynahFaithful, June 09, 2015, 11:01:18 PM

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BearLover


Scersk '97

Quote from: Chris '03Three most recent ECAC titles:

1068-753 in '03 http://collegehockeystats.net/0203/teamstats/corm

830-1025 in '05

982-956 in 10

Unfortunately, you reversed '05.

BearLover

So in Schafer's best years, we were outshooting opponents by a huge amount.  For whatever reason, we still found success in '09 and '10 with about an even shot differential.  I think we will never be good with a negative shot differential (this year we are -100).

Swampy

Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Chris '03Three most recent ECAC titles:

1068-753 in '03 http://collegehockeystats.net/0203/teamstats/corm

830-1025 in '05

982-956 in 10

Unfortunately, you reversed '05 '03

FYP

Jim Hyla

Quote from: BearLoverSo in Schafer's best years, we were outshooting opponents by a huge amount.  For whatever reason, we still found success in '09 and '10 with about an even shot differential.  I think we will never be good with a negative shot differential (this year we are -100).

So I generally agree with this. However if we beat Q, I'd consider this year a success, wouldn't you?

And looking to the future, out of our top 10 shooters there is only 1 senior (position 5) and 2 freshmen (positions 2 & 8). Out of our top 10 scorers 2 seniors (in positions 5 & 8) and 3 freshmen (positions 1, 3, & 9)

If we continue to build upon what our freshmen have done, I think the future will be brighter.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

billhoward

Quote from: Jim HylaIf we continue to build upon what our freshmen have done, I think the future will be brighter.
And if not, there is always this thread. That or saying, "There's always lacrosse season."

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim HylaHowever if we beat Q, I'd consider this year a success, wouldn't you?

Holy shit yes.  Not only would that get us 3 wins against #1s and a trip to Placid, it might also punch our ticket to the NC$$.

BearLover

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLoverSo in Schafer's best years, we were outshooting opponents by a huge amount.  For whatever reason, we still found success in '09 and '10 with about an even shot differential.  I think we will never be good with a negative shot differential (this year we are -100).

So I generally agree with this. However if we beat Q, I'd consider this year a success, wouldn't you?

And looking to the future, out of our top 10 shooters there is only 1 senior (position 5) and 2 freshmen (positions 2 & 8). Out of our top 10 scorers 2 seniors (in positions 5 & 8) and 3 freshmen (positions 1, 3, & 9)

If we continue to build upon what our freshmen have done, I think the future will be brighter.
I agree with all of this.  It shouldn't be understated how big of a long-shot beating Q is, though.

Dafatone

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLoverSo in Schafer's best years, we were outshooting opponents by a huge amount.  For whatever reason, we still found success in '09 and '10 with about an even shot differential.  I think we will never be good with a negative shot differential (this year we are -100).

So I generally agree with this. However if we beat Q, I'd consider this year a success, wouldn't you?

And looking to the future, out of our top 10 shooters there is only 1 senior (position 5) and 2 freshmen (positions 2 & 8). Out of our top 10 scorers 2 seniors (in positions 5 & 8) and 3 freshmen (positions 1, 3, & 9)

If we continue to build upon what our freshmen have done, I think the future will be brighter.
I agree with all of this.  It shouldn't be understated how big of a long-shot beating Q would be, though.

At least we've looked good against them, and good against top teams in general.  There's a weird part of me that thinks we're better off against a great team than a very good one (Q instead of Yale, for instance).

And hey, sorry for yelling at you in the post-RPI thread.  I had JUST finished watching the game and I should probably take ten minutes to catch my breath before posting.

BearLover

Also notable is that you take more shots when you're behind.  So these good Schafer teams, even those with an even-ish shot differential, had a better shot differential in tied/close games than the numbers indicate.

css228

I'll say what I'd want to see in a new coach. I want a Dave Hakstol style system that aggressively challenges opponents with a forecheck and d-men pinching regularly to create offense. And i want to see a team that is encouraged to carry the puck rather than dump and chase. The best defense is controlling the puck, and I've had enough of the damn 1-2-2 trap. And furthermore I want a coach that can recruit players who ultimately make a difference not only in the college level, but eventually the NHL. They don't have to be draft picks coming into school, but we should have the kind of guys who have the talent that with 3-4 years in school actually make a difference. A lot of people here say thats a ridiculous expectation, but if Union can get a Shayne Gostisbehere or Bemidji State can get a Matt Read, there is no reason that we can't recruit those guys. Ghost wasn't even drafted until after his freshman year. So you can't tell me that he wasn't a guy we could have had.

scoop85

Quote from: css228I'll say what I'd want to see in a new coach. I want a Dave Hakstol style system that aggressively challenges opponents with a forecheck and d-men pinching regularly to create offense. And i want to see a team that is encouraged to carry the puck rather than dump and chase. The best defense is controlling the puck, and I've had enough of the damn 1-2-2 trap. And furthermore I want a coach that can recruit players who ultimately make a difference not only in the college level, but eventually the NHL. They don't have to be draft picks coming into school, but we should have the kind of guys who have the talent that with 3-4 years in school actually make a difference. A lot of people here say thats a ridiculous expectation, but if Union can get a Shayne Gostisbehere or Bemidji State can get a Matt Read, there is no reason that we can't recruit those guys. Ghost wasn't even drafted until after his freshman year. So you can't tell me that he wasn't a guy we could have had.

Well, isn't it possible that Gostisbehere may not have had the academic qualifications to gain admission to Cornell? It's not just a matter of the coaches picking anyone they want.

Trotsky

Quote from: scoop85Well, isn't it possible that Gostisbehere may not have had the academic qualifications to gain admission to Cornell? It's not just a matter of the coaches picking anyone they want.

The line I heard quoted from the hockey office back in the 80s was, "for every ten leading prospects that NCAA schools look at, you can immediately exclude 9 who have no chance of admission here."

css228

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: css228I'll say what I'd want to see in a new coach. I want a Dave Hakstol style system that aggressively challenges opponents with a forecheck and d-men pinching regularly to create offense. And i want to see a team that is encouraged to carry the puck rather than dump and chase. The best defense is controlling the puck, and I've had enough of the damn 1-2-2 trap. And furthermore I want a coach that can recruit players who ultimately make a difference not only in the college level, but eventually the NHL. They don't have to be draft picks coming into school, but we should have the kind of guys who have the talent that with 3-4 years in school actually make a difference. A lot of people here say thats a ridiculous expectation, but if Union can get a Shayne Gostisbehere or Bemidji State can get a Matt Read, there is no reason that we can't recruit those guys. Ghost wasn't even drafted until after his freshman year. So you can't tell me that he wasn't a guy we could have had.

Well, isn't it possible that Gostisbehere may not have had the academic qualifications to gain admission to Cornell? It's not just a matter of the coaches picking anyone they want.
He had a 3.93 at Union. So doubtful.

fireschafer

Schafer probably keeps his job with the win tonight. That said, our AD fired our amazing lax coach due to a hazing incident he had absolutely no liability for (and we've sucked ever since, while he went on to win a championship). We'd have to do super super bad to fire schafer (no matter how much I'd like to). Or I guess get caught for hazing lol.