2014-15 Wrestling thread

Started by ugarte, October 16, 2014, 10:28:11 AM

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dag14

Lack of intensity rather than fatigue; hence my disappointment.

ugarte

Tomorrow is the big (kind of) match against Mizzou. CV is still recovering so you can flip 149 from slightly-favored-to-win to hope-we-don't-give-up-bonus. We're probably going to lose but I hope we can keep it close.

ugarte

Rough day against Missouri.

Nahshon Garrett missed weight by a few ounces so we had to forfeit at 125 and the fans missed a rematch of the 125 final from the Scuffle.

Koll opted to have Garrett wrestle at 133 for some reason, and he wasn't up to the task, possibly because he came in having cut (almost) for 125. In any event he lost to an unranked wrestler.

Arujau didn't wrestle at 141 (and there are rumors that he didn't make weight either), and facing a top 10 wrestler, Dunphy lost by major decision.

Villalonga is out with an injury at 149 and, facing yet another top 10 wrestler with our backup, Simaz, we lost by major decision again.

4 matches in and we were down 17-0.

Finally, at 157, in a matchup of top wrestlers, #9 Realbuto defeated #10 LeVallee for the second time in two weekends.

#11 Palacio followed up at 165 with another win.

Jesse Shanaman, who has been wrestling all year at 165 moved up to 174 with the return of Palacio to face a top 10 wrestler who beat him 7-0.

At 184, #1 Dean once again beat Missouri's Miklus, a top 20 wrestler who he faced in the Scuffle semis.

Jace Bennett faced the defending 197 national champ (and current #2) J'den Cox and got whipped 11-0 for a major decision.

JAP faced the #16 heavyweight and lost, but not with bonus points.

Final score: 27-9.

Ivy schedule starts next weekend against Harvard and Brown.

ithacat

Can't wait to see Rob's notes on the match. I expect they will be frank and measured, though less entertaining than usual.

jek86

does anyone know why Nahshon Garrett didn't wrestle this weekend?

ugarte

Quote from: jek86does anyone know why Nahshon Garrett didn't wrestle this weekend?
He missed weight at Missouri, possibly because of a minor illness (HIPAA, etc.), and Koll decided to hold him out against Harvard and Brown presumably so that he could recover without having to cut weight. We don't have another wrestler qualified at 125* so we forfeited the weight against Brown but didn't even have a 125 match against Harvard because their 125 has been out all season.

* This is an oversimplification, but under NCAA weight-cutting rules you have to "qualify" at a weight some period before you can wrestle at that weight to prevent unsafe weight-cutting. Garrett is the only 125 currently on the roster though we have a very good guy greyshirting this year and I expect Garrett to move up to 133 in 2015-16.

Cornell blew out Harvard and Brown.

Not much to report. We only dropped 2 matches to Harvard - our backup at 141 lost to a ranked Harvard wrestler and Aiken-Phillips lost at Heavyweight. Not even sure if that is an upset anymore. Our guys put up 3 MDs and 3TFs and won 30-8. The big win came at 197 where #17 Jace Bennett dominated #9 Fox, 11-0.

Against Brown we only lost one match aside from the forfeit, a 7-3 loss from Jesse Shanaman who has moved up to 174 while Pickett is hurt since Palacio has reclaimed his spot at starter at 165. Brown has one wrestler of note and he sat out the match against Gabe Dean at 184. Dean pinned the backup. Aiken-Phillips rolled to an 18-0 TF in his heavyweight match and I am happy to say something positive about him this year.

We get Penn at home on Saturday and then a real test against Lehigh on Sunday.

mountainred

Cornell won Ivy dual #66 in a row yesterday against Penn, setting up today's EIWA showdown with Lehigh.

Overall a good day for the Big Red against Penn.  NG was back in form, Duke Pickett came back and won in sudden victory, and Dean won in SV over a top ten guy (and really looked the better wrestler).

dag14

Very entertaining match against Lehigh.  Cornell took the match 21-9 but it was actually a lot closer than the score would suggest.  No matches produced bonus points; at least three went to OT, including Gabe Dean who survived against the #3 wrestler in a controversial decision.  The officials reviewed the action as the first OT ended and reversed the live-action decision of no control and awarded Gabe a takedown.  Brian Realbuto outscored his opponent 8-1 in the 3rd period to take his match.  Other winners were Garrett, Villalonga, Palacio, Pickett, and Bennett.

ugarte

The match against Lehigh was amazing from start to finish.

125: I didn't get to see the Garrett match, but he was facing an unranked wrestler who really gave him a hell of a match and Garrett didn't get the expected MD. 3-0 CU

133: Grey is still out with an injury so we didn't get to see the a rematch against Lehigh's one of Lehigh's contenders for AA. Instead, Dixon kept the match with Beckman close. 3-3

141: Lehigh's Cruz is another AA candidate, so with our backup Logan David in, Lehigh had a shot at bonus points again. Not only did David keep it close, he damn near got a defensive pin when Cruz was trying for a tilt but David pushed back and IMO pressed Cruz to the mat hard enough that he should have been awarded the win. That said, David wrestled incredibly well giving up only a second period reversal (when  he got out of position gamely trying for a tilt) and riding time. LU 6-3

149: Villalonga made up for Saturday's inexplicable loss at Penn with a cruise control 9-5 victory over unranked Longo. It shouldn't have been this close, though. 6-6

157: Two of last year's AAs went at it in the best match of the night. Early in the first period, Lehigh's Minotti got a front headlock and put Realbuto in the cement mixer for a quick 4-0 lead. Realbuto was able to fight off of his back before it got too bad, and eventually was able to get a reversal but was still down 5-2 after the first period. Realbuto quickly escaped in the second and went to the third down 5-3. In the third period, he got cute trying for back points from the top and gave up a reversal to go down 7-3. Realbuto escaped, got a takedown and then, after going out of bounds, chose to restart at neutral, giving up the escape point, to cut it to 8-6. With time winding down, Realbuto baited Minotti into taking a shot, countered for the takedown into a cradle and put Minotti on his back for 3 nearfall points as time expired. That very easily could have been called a pin for Realbuto but the NF was enough to give Realbuto a thrilling 11-8 win. 9-6 CU

165: Dylan Palacio took on former Cornellian Marshall Peppelman and showed why he took Peppelman's starting spot away last year, rolling to a 9-2 win that really should have been a major. 12-6 CU

174: Duke Pickett's weekend back from injury was perfect, with a sudden victory win over last year's conference champion against Penn followed by a 5-4 victory over Lehigh's Martinez in a match not as close as the final score. Martinez's points were three escapes and a locked-hands violation against Pickett, while Pickett took Martinez down twice. 15-6 CU

187: For the second time over the weekend #1 Gabe Dean was facing a top-5 wrestler and for the second consecutive day he won 3-1 with a Sudden Victory takedown. He didn't really seem threatened but Brown is a very good defensive wrestler so he also wasn't able to get a good shot in. The good shots he did get, Brown did a good job of fighting off. In SV, Dean finally BARELY finished a shot on the edge of the mat. The refs initially didn't give him credit, but Cornell challenged the no-call and Dean was awarded the takedown for the win. 18-6 CU

194: In a slow, steady, defensive match, Bennett eked out a 2-1 OT win that he probably didn't deserve. If I'm going to stump for the refs maybe blowing the pin no-calls in favor of David and Realbuto and for getting the replay right for Dean, I have to be honest here and say that in the closing seconds of the SV period, Riddick forced Bennett to his back and looked to have enough control for at least a two-point takedown and a 3-1 win. The refs didn't give it to him, though, and in the rideout OT sessions Bennett escaped but Riddick couldn't match him. 21-6 CU

Hwt: JAP's struggle continues. He got the first takedown but gave one up in regulation also, so it went to SV tied at 3. He gave up another takedown for a 5-3 loss resulting in a 21-9 CORNELL WIN that was a lot closer than the team score indicated.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: ugarte157: Two of last year's AAs went at it in the best match of the night. Early in the first period, Lehigh's Minotti got a front headlock and put Realbuto in the cement mixer for a quick 4-0 lead.
Coach Koll's comment on this in his post-meet newsletter is priceless:

"Brian Realbuto was the only person in the house who did not see the cement mixer coming."
Al DeFlorio '65

scoop85

Quote from: ugarteThe match against Lehigh was amazing from start to finish.

125: I didn't get to see the Garrett match, but he was facing an unranked wrestler who really gave him a hell of a match and Garrett didn't get the expected MD. 3-0 CU

133: Grey is still out with an injury so we didn't get to see the a rematch against Lehigh's one of Lehigh's contenders for AA. Instead, Dixon kept the match with Beckman close. 3-3

141: Lehigh's Cruz is another AA candidate, so with our backup Logan David in, Lehigh had a shot at bonus points again. Not only did David keep it close, he damn near got a defensive pin when Cruz was trying for a tilt but David pushed back and IMO pressed Cruz to the mat hard enough that he should have been awarded the win. That said, David wrestled incredibly well giving up only a second period reversal (when  he got out of position gamely trying for a tilt) and riding time. LU 6-3

149: Villalonga made up for Saturday's inexplicable loss at Penn with a cruise control 9-5 victory over unranked Longo. It shouldn't have been this close, though. 6-6

157: Two of last year's AAs went at it in the best match of the night. Early in the first period, Lehigh's Minotti got a front headlock and put Realbuto in the cement mixer for a quick 4-0 lead. Realbuto was able to fight off of his back before it got too bad, and eventually was able to get a reversal but was still down 5-2 after the first period. Realbuto quickly escaped in the second and went to the third down 5-3. In the third period, he got cute trying for back points from the top and gave up a reversal to go down 7-3. Realbuto escaped, got a takedown and then, after going out of bounds, chose to restart at neutral, giving up the escape point, to cut it to 8-6. With time winding down, Realbuto baited Minotti into taking a shot, countered for the takedown into a cradle and put Minotti on his back for 3 nearfall points as time expired. That very easily could have been called a pin for Realbuto but the NF was enough to give Realbuto a thrilling 11-8 win. 9-6 CU

165: Dylan Palacio took on former Cornellian Marshall Peppelman and showed why he took Peppelman's starting spot away last year, rolling to a 9-2 win that really should have been a major. 12-6 CU

174: Duke Pickett's weekend back from injury was perfect, with a sudden victory win over last year's conference champion against Penn followed by a 5-4 victory over Lehigh's Martinez in a match not as close as the final score. Martinez's points were three escapes and a locked-hands violation against Pickett, while Pickett took Martinez down twice. 15-6 CU

187: For the second time over the weekend #1 Gabe Dean was facing a top-5 wrestler and for the second consecutive day he won 3-1 with a Sudden Victory takedown. He didn't really seem threatened but Brown is a very good defensive wrestler so he also wasn't able to get a good shot in. The good shots he did get, Brown did a good job of fighting off. In SV, Dean finally BARELY finished a shot on the edge of the mat. The refs initially didn't give him credit, but Cornell challenged the no-call and Dean was awarded the takedown for the win. 18-6 CU

194: In a slow, steady, defensive match, Bennett eked out a 2-1 OT win that he probably didn't deserve. If I'm going to stump for the refs maybe blowing the pin no-calls in favor of David and Realbuto and for getting the replay right for Dean, I have to be honest here and say that in the closing seconds of the SV period, Riddick forced Bennett to his back and looked to have enough control for at least a two-point takedown and a 3-1 win. The refs didn't give it to him, though, and in the rideout OT sessions Bennett escaped but Riddick couldn't match him. 21-6 CU

Hwt: JAP's struggle continues. He got the first takedown but gave one up in regulation also, so it went to SV tied at 3. He gave up another takedown for a 5-3 loss resulting in a 21-9 CORNELL WIN that was a lot closer than the team score indicated.

I watched most of the match, and you're right-on -- it was thrilling, and a lot closer than the final score.  Thanks for the link to the cement mixer demonstration -- I wasn't familiar with that before.

KeithK

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Quote from: ugarteHwt: JAP's struggle continues. He got the first takedown but gave one up in regulation also, so it went to SV tied at 3. He gave up another takedown for a 5-3 loss resulting in a 21-9 CORNELL WIN that was a lot closer than the team score indicated.

I watched most of the match, and you're right-on -- it was thrilling, and a lot closer than the final score.  Thanks for the link to the cement mixer demonstration -- I wasn't familiar with that before.
Question from sdomeone who knows little about the sport.  How is the team score calculated? It's not matches won or sum of individual match scores, which were the first two obvious methods I thought of.

jkahn

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Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: ugarteHwt: JAP's struggle continues. He got the first takedown but gave one up in regulation also, so it went to SV tied at 3. He gave up another takedown for a 5-3 loss resulting in a 21-9 CORNELL WIN that was a lot closer than the team score indicated.

I watched most of the match, and you're right-on -- it was thrilling, and a lot closer than the final score.  Thanks for the link to the cement mixer demonstration -- I wasn't familiar with that before.
Question from sdomeone who knows little about the sport.  How is the team score calculated? It's not matches won or sum of individual match scores, which were the first two obvious methods I thought of.
Match won by less than 8 pts. = 3 Points
Match won by 8 to 14 pts. = 4 points (known as Major Decision)
Match won by 15 or more (match is terminated at that point, kind of a slaughter rule) = 5 pts. (known as Technical Fall)
Match won by fall (pin) or forfeit = 6 pts.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

ugarte

Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: ugarteHwt: JAP's struggle continues. He got the first takedown but gave one up in regulation also, so it went to SV tied at 3. He gave up another takedown for a 5-3 loss resulting in a 21-9 CORNELL WIN that was a lot closer than the team score indicated.

I watched most of the match, and you're right-on -- it was thrilling, and a lot closer than the final score.  Thanks for the link to the cement mixer demonstration -- I wasn't familiar with that before.
Question from sdomeone who knows little about the sport.  How is the team score calculated? It's not matches won or sum of individual match scores, which were the first two obvious methods I thought of.
Match won by less than 8 pts. = 3 Points
Match won by 8 to 14 pts. = 4 points (known as Major Decision)
Match won by 15 or more (match is terminated at that point, kind of a slaughter rule) = 5 pts. (known as Technical Fall)
Match won by fall (pin) or forfeit = 6 pts.
Cornell - Lehigh was interesting in that there were no bonus points - all matches were close, so the score tracked the match results exactly (21-9 is basically 7-3).

Teams can also be penalized for violations. For example, last year when we wrestled Penn, Penn was hit with a one point penalty after their second bench violation (read: screaming coaches, probably), and Cornell swept all 10 matches, including two major decisions,leaving a final score of 32-(-1).

KeithK

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: ugarteHwt: JAP's struggle continues. He got the first takedown but gave one up in regulation also, so it went to SV tied at 3. He gave up another takedown for a 5-3 loss resulting in a 21-9 CORNELL WIN that was a lot closer than the team score indicated.

I watched most of the match, and you're right-on -- it was thrilling, and a lot closer than the final score.  Thanks for the link to the cement mixer demonstration -- I wasn't familiar with that before.
Question from sdomeone who knows little about the sport.  How is the team score calculated? It's not matches won or sum of individual match scores, which were the first two obvious methods I thought of.
Match won by less than 8 pts. = 3 Points
Match won by 8 to 14 pts. = 4 points (known as Major Decision)
Match won by 15 or more (match is terminated at that point, kind of a slaughter rule) = 5 pts. (known as Technical Fall)
Match won by fall (pin) or forfeit = 6 pts.
Cornell - Lehigh was interesting in that there were no bonus points - all matches were close, so the score tracked the match results exactly (21-9 is basically 7-3).

Teams can also be penalized for violations. For example, last year when we wrestled Penn, Penn was hit with a one point penalty after their second bench violation (read: screaming coaches, probably), and Cornell swept all 10 matches, including two major decisions,leaving a final score of 32-(-1).
Thanks for the explanations.