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[Trotsky]

I think one think that gets overlooked with Ryan's offensive side is the excellent play by Wilcox that allows him to pinch and be offensive minded knowing that Wilcox is steady on the defensive end. Wilcox's play has alleviated the need for Ryan to become more and more defensively minded.

Behind (literally) every great offensive defenseman is a great defensive defenseman who can cover for him.  Wilcox is one and it looks like Lewis will be the next.  While we rightfully criticize the coaching staff for their problems in designing effective set plays and adapting the powerplay, it has been nice to not worry about the defense for the last 20 years.

[MattS]

I think one think that gets overlooked with Ryan's offensive side is the excellent play by Wilcox that allows him to pinch and be offensive minded knowing that Wilcox is steady on the defensive end. Wilcox's play has alleviated the need for Ryan to become more and more defensively minded.

Behind (literally) every great offensive defenseman is a great defensive defenseman who can cover for him.  Wilcox is one and it looks like Lewis will be the next.  While we rightfully criticize the coaching staff for their problems in designing effective set plays and adapting the powerplay, it has been nice to not worry about the defense for the last 20 years.

I totally agree about Lewis. For a freshman I didn't really notice him when he's out on the ice which in my opinion is a very good thing for a defenseman.

[Rosey]

This:

When was the last time Cornell scored a goal off an amazing deke

is not hockey. That's bush-league shit that a good defense can and will predictably prevent. Union was so effective not because of individual heroics like this, but rather because their team played like a team, set up plays intended to create scoring chances, and executed well.

[Weder]

Time to add Willcox to the Speling Guide? :-P

[MattS]

This:

When was the last time Cornell scored a goal off an amazing deke

is not hockey. That's bush-league shit that a good defense can and will predictably prevent.

Yeah, because those type of goals are never scored by any team at any level!

[Rosey]

This:

When was the last time Cornell scored a goal off an amazing deke

is not hockey. That's bush-league shit that a good defense can and will predictably prevent.

Yeah, because those type of goals are never scored by any team at any level!

The point is not that these goals never happen, only that they are unpredictable enough against skilled opponents not to be relied upon to win games. A good coach doesn't say, "Our game plan is: you, you, and you go out there, make a sick move, and score, and you, go out there and score on a breakaway. Defense, keep it to 3 GA, and we've got this in the bag." No, what a good coach does is set up and practice plays that reliably have an X% chance of resulting in a goal over a large enough number of tries.

[KeithK]

This:

When was the last time Cornell scored a goal off an amazing deke

is not hockey. That's bush-league shit that a good defense can and will predictably prevent.

Yeah, because those type of goals are never scored by any team at any level!

The point is not that these goals never happen, only that they are unpredictable enough against skilled opponents not to be relied upon to win games. A good coach doesn't say, "Our game plan is: you, you, and you go out there, make a sick move, and score, and you, go out there and score on a breakaway. Defense, keep it to 3 GA, and we've got this in the bag." No, what a good coach does is set up and practice plays that reliably have an X% chance of resulting in a goal over a large enough number of tries.

We've had a few guys through the years who had the skating and stick handling skills to make some pretyy nice moves with the puck. You know what usually happeed? A couple defenders converged on the guy and made it impossible to get to the net.

It's fun to see that kind of play when it actually works.  But a well designed and executed team offense with passing and positioning is better and more effective overall.

[MattS]

This:

When was the last time Cornell scored a goal off an amazing deke

is not hockey. That's bush-league shit that a good defense can and will predictably prevent.

Yeah, because those type of goals are never scored by any team at any level!

The point is not that these goals never happen, only that they are unpredictable enough against skilled opponents not to be relied upon to win games. A good coach doesn't say, "Our game plan is: you, you, and you go out there, make a sick move, and score, and you, go out there and score on a breakaway. Defense, keep it to 3 GA, and we've got this in the bag." No, what a good coach does is set up and practice plays that reliably have an X% chance of resulting in a goal over a large enough number of tries.

So unpredictability = bush-league?

I understand what you are getting at with regards to predictability and don't disagree. I just do not understand the bush-league portion of your post. I am confident I have watch many similar plays (a great deke) in various high level hockey leagues that I would not call bush.

[Chris '03]

This:

When was the last time Cornell scored a goal off an amazing deke

is not hockey. That's bush-league shit that a good defense can and will predictably prevent.

Yeah, because those type of goals are never scored by any team at any level!

The point is not that these goals never happen, only that they are unpredictable enough against skilled opponents not to be relied upon to win games. A good coach doesn't say, "Our game plan is: you, you, and you go out there, make a sick move, and score, and you, go out there and score on a breakaway. Defense, keep it to 3 GA, and we've got this in the bag." No, what a good coach does is set up and practice plays that reliably have an X% chance of resulting in a goal over a large enough number of tries.

We've had a few guys through the years who had the skating and stick handling skills to make some pretyy nice moves with the puck. You know what usually happeed? A couple defenders converged on the guy and made it impossible to get to the net.

It's fun to see that kind of play when it actually works.  But a well designed and executed team offense with passing and positioning is better and more effective overall.

Tony Romano comes to mind immediately. He didn't like it so much.

[Rosey]

So unpredictability = bush-league?

No. A league bad enough for a player to regularly get away with that shit = bush league.

[ugarte]

This:

When was the last time Cornell scored a goal off an amazing deke

is not hockey. That's bush-league shit that a good defense can and will predictably prevent.

Yeah, because those type of goals are never scored by any team at any level!

The point is not that these goals never happen, only that they are unpredictable enough against skilled opponents not to be relied upon to win games. A good coach doesn't say, "Our game plan is: you, you, and you go out there, make a sick move, and score, and you, go out there and score on a breakaway. Defense, keep it to 3 GA, and we've got this in the bag." No, what a good coach does is set up and practice plays that reliably have an X% chance of resulting in a goal over a large enough number of tries.

So unpredictability = bush-league?

I understand what you are getting at with regards to predictability and don't disagree. I just do not understand the bush-league portion of your post. I am confident I have watch many similar plays (a great deke) in various high level hockey leagues that I would not call bush.

What he's saying is that spectacular goals are nice - amazing, even - but do not constitute a game plan. Building a team around superlative pure talent is not a coaching strategy or even a particularly viable recruiting plan for Cornell. Kyle is saying that offensive cohesion is a coachable skill that Schafer seems to be falling short in.

I have not watched enough to comment either way. Thus concludes today's episode of Translating Kyle in Good Faith.

[Rosey]

This:

When was the last time Cornell scored a goal off an amazing deke

is not hockey. That's bush-league shit that a good defense can and will predictably prevent.

Yeah, because those type of goals are never scored by any team at any level!

The point is not that these goals never happen, only that they are unpredictable enough against skilled opponents not to be relied upon to win games. A good coach doesn't say, "Our game plan is: you, you, and you go out there, make a sick move, and score, and you, go out there and score on a breakaway. Defense, keep it to 3 GA, and we've got this in the bag." No, what a good coach does is set up and practice plays that reliably have an X% chance of resulting in a goal over a large enough number of tries.

So unpredictability = bush-league?

I understand what you are getting at with regards to predictability and don't disagree. I just do not understand the bush-league portion of your post. I am confident I have watch many similar plays (a great deke) in various high level hockey leagues that I would not call bush.

What he's saying is that spectacular goals are nice - amazing, even - but do not constitute a game plan. Building a team around superlative pure talent is not a coaching strategy or even a particularly viable recruiting plan for Cornell. Kyle is saying that offensive cohesion is a coachable skill that Schafer seems to be falling short in.

I have not watched enough to comment either way. Thus concludes today's episode of Translating Kyle in Good Faith.

I'm Kyle Rose, and I approve this message.

[MattS]

So unpredictability = bush-league?

No. A league bad enough for a player to regularly get away with that shit = bush league.

I see. I got it now. That I can agree with.

[BearLover]

This:

When was the last time Cornell scored a goal off an amazing deke

is not hockey. That's bush-league shit that a good defense can and will predictably prevent. Union was so effective not because of individual heroics like this, but rather because their team played like a team, set up plays intended to create scoring chances, and executed well.

Who said you had to build your gameplan around deking out your opponent?  Are players not supposed to try to get around a defender when they're 1-on-1? What would you recommend they do, just barrel through the guy?  I'd recommend they try a few bush-league tactics.  Yale sure scored a lot of goals en route to a national championship with these bush-league maneuvers!  I saw Crosby set up a goal off a sick deke the other night.  The ref disallowed it, due to it being bush-league.

[Rosey]

This:

When was the last time Cornell scored a goal off an amazing deke

is not hockey. That's bush-league shit that a good defense can and will predictably prevent. Union was so effective not because of individual heroics like this, but rather because their team played like a team, set up plays intended to create scoring chances, and executed well.

Who said you had to build your gameplan around deking out your opponent?  Are players not supposed to try to get around a defender when they're 1-on-1? What would you recommend they do, just barrel through the guy?  I'd recommend they try a few bush-league tactics.  Yale sure scored a lot of goals en route to a national championship with these bush-league maneuvers!  I saw Crosby set up a goal off a sick deke the other night.  The ref disallowed it, due to it being bush-league.

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with people who don't actually read. Go pick a fight with someone else.