Cornell @ Hahvahd

[Trotsky]

Man, that is tough.  Oh well.  Just part of our "Stealth Strategy" to be the first team to win from below the 8 seed.  

[Johnny 5]

Man, that is tough.  Oh well.  Just part of our "Stealth Strategy" to be the first team to win from below the 8 seed.  

They played well.
Three good games in a row.
'nuf said.

:-)

[jtn27]

The announcer in the video said that the no-goal couldn't be reviewed. Why not?

[scoop85]

The announcer in the video said that the no-goal couldn't be reviewed. Why not?

Whistle blew.

[css228]

The announcer in the video said that the no-goal couldn't be reviewed. Why not?

Whistle blew.

Well can't be reviewed is the wrong thing to say. Of course the play can be reviewed to see if the puck went in before the whistle. It can't be overturned even though that wasn't even debatably a dead puck. Just another case of ECAC officiating incompetence.

[Trotsky]

Just another case of ECAC officiating incompetence.

Not sure I would say that.  Incompetence is when they misapply a rule.  While unfortunate in this case, the rule is you blow the whistle when you lose sight of the puck.  They can't overturn it because the play is dead.  So they're stuck.

It's a wonder anybody still wants to be a referee in an age of cameras and replay.

[css228]

Just another case of ECAC officiating incompetence.

Not sure I would say that.  Incompetence is when they misapply a rule.  While unfortunate in this case, the rule is you blow the whistle when you lose sight of the puck.  They can't overturn it because the play is dead.  So they're stuck.

It's a wonder anybody still wants to be a referee in an age of cameras and replay.

Incompetence is calling a play dead that had no business being called off by quick whistling. There is visible ice between the goaltender and the puck. The ref is in a terrible position to blow that play dead. Nothing short of an objectively terrible call to blow the play dead. Once the play is dead, there is nothing that can be done. But I could see from my seat with the band that that puck was loose as the whistle went. If I can tell through five rows of instruments, a referee should be able to put himself in a position on the ice where he can see clearly too.

[RichH]

Ferlin Third Period - No Goal

Jesus, what a horrible, horrible whistle...

I was in section 1, so off to Girard's right, where we were screened from seeing the puck by Girard himself.  Thought it was a quick whistle then, but seeing it from this angle, "horrible, horrible whistle," is about right.

Yep, but at least they were consistently horrible. I noticed during the 2nd Period one play where Iles was reaching to cover the puck off the far post where I swear the whistle blew as Iles's glove was still coming down and hadn't even landed on the ice yet. Just terrible with that all night.

[Trotsky]

Just another case of ECAC officiating incompetence.

Not sure I would say that.  Incompetence is when they misapply a rule.  While unfortunate in this case, the rule is you blow the whistle when you lose sight of the puck.  They can't overturn it because the play is dead.  So they're stuck.

It's a wonder anybody still wants to be a referee in an age of cameras and replay.

Incompetence is calling a play dead that had no business being called off by quick whistling. There is visible ice between the goaltender and the puck. The ref is in a terrible position to blow that play dead. Nothing short of an objectively terrible call to blow the play dead. Once the play is dead, there is nothing that can be done. But I could see from my seat with the band that that puck was loose as the whistle went. If I can tell through five rows of instruments, a referee should be able to put himself in a position on the ice where he can see clearly too.

What I was trying to say is there will often be a better angle, and the ref cannot be everywhere.  Typically replay can be used to fix a call, but it's the nature of a stoppage call that it can't be "taken back."

If the ref "objectively" was in poor position relative to where he was supposed to be according to correct officiating practice then OK, I agree that's not competent.  But if he was in poor position to make the call on that particular angle, on that particular play, then my sympathy is actually with him on this one.  (Unless the rules give latitude to wait a beat even when you've lost sight of the puck if the goalie isn't in danger of being run.  In which case then the whistle may have been "objectively" too quick.)

[Jordan 04]

Hard to blame the ref on the whistle.  The puck barely squirted away from Girard, and it's clear the angle was such that the ref never saw the puck. There was actually a poorer quick whistle on that same end. I forget when exactly, but Girard failed to cleanly swallow a Cornell shot, and a pretty decent rebound came out in front, but the play had been blown dead by the ref who presumably lost sight of the puck.

ETA: Did D'Agostino return after he left the ice limping? He looked to be in significant pain.

[ugarte]

My energy for lamenting quick whistles was almost completely sapped in 1990 and disappeared in 2011 at MSG.

[Trotsky]

My energy for lamenting quick whistles was almost completely sapped in 1990 and disappeared in 2011 at MSG.

1990?

[munchkin]

My energy for lamenting quick whistles was almost completely sapped in 1990 and disappeared in 2011 at MSG.

Yes. I watched him do a little test skate in a little loop in front of the bench during a stopage, then he went out the next shift. He was out for probably 4-5 shifts plus a TV timeout.

[ugarte]

My energy for lamenting quick whistles was almost completely sapped in 1990 and disappeared in 2011 at MSG.

1990?

Am I forgetting the year of the ECAC semi against RPI?

[Trotsky]

My energy for lamenting quick whistles was almost completely sapped in 1990 and disappeared in 2011 at MSG.

1990?

Am I forgetting the year of the ECAC semi against RPI?

No, but I don't remember a quick whistle, I remember Ross Lemon.