David Archer new head football coach

Ken711 · January 03, 2013, 03:25:48 PM

Per the report on Footballscoop.com and now official.

Chris '03 · January 03, 2013, 03:27:44 PM

Wow.

Josh '99 · January 03, 2013, 03:59:28 PM

That's this David Archer, not this David Archer, in case your first move was to go to Wikipedia and then wonder why our new head coach was a guy who has never coached before.

Trotsky · January 03, 2013, 04:03:42 PM

It's not this one, either.

dag14 · January 03, 2013, 06:04:41 PM

It is official: cornell athletics announcement Press conference tomorrow at 2.

Al DeFlorio · January 03, 2013, 06:29:45 PM

Not clear to me what all this "turnaround" hype is. The team won two Ivy games this year. As for his "recruiting success," I'd say he's attracted undersized linemen who can neither block nor tackle. I'm not blown away by this selection, I regret to say. Seems more driven by convenience than anything. Not sure why a blue-chip Ivy recruit would flock to him rather than Murphy at Harvard or Bagnoli at Penn. Sorry...that's my take.

Ken711 · January 03, 2013, 07:39:55 PM

Surprised that's for sure. I hope he brings new experienced coordinators to run the offense and defense.

imafrshmn · January 03, 2013, 08:33:19 PM

maybe andy noel thought better of conducting a big-ass talent search a la kent austin in favor of keeping expectations nice and low (reasonable). sports are full of coaches saying they want to turn programs around, change teams' cultures (remember coach knowles's gimmickry?), but it's all grasping at straws in a zero sum game, because for every program that "turns around" for the better, another turns for the worst. as many people have mentioned, kent austin wasn't able to recruit the best players for his system. the team should have had much more success this year than they did given their offensive talent, and the pileup of injuries (which has to be in some way related to the coaching) didn't help.maybe he found the ivy league recruiting process to be too demanding of him. i don't really know.

Jim Hyla · January 03, 2013, 08:44:30 PM

There's obviously a lot that we don't know.::rolleyes::I haven't heard about next year's class. One possibility is that there is a great class coming in and Andy felt it was important to keep those players attached to CU. However that doesn't mean he's head coach material.

billhoward · January 03, 2013, 08:57:03 PM

Quote from: Jim HylaThere's obviously a lot that we don't know.::rolleyes::I haven't heard about next year's class. One possibility is that there is a great class coming in and Andy felt it was important to keep those players attached to CU. However that doesn't mean he's head coach material.

Was reading a WWII novel about a unassuming looking new lieutenant. The dialog: "There's more to him than meets the eye." "That wouldn't be hard." Andy Noel's hires have been pretty good. Let's see how it pans out.

Ken711 · January 03, 2013, 10:13:02 PM

I'm thinking he maybe Cornell will get lucky again promoting from within like they did with the lacrosse program. My only concern is any lack of experience as a coordinator. Given Condell and Austin left, I would expect he would at least bring in an experienced offensive coordinator. And given our last place in the Ivy League defense, I hope he replaces Dameron as well with an experienced defensive coordinator.

Trotsky · January 04, 2013, 11:06:49 AM

Quote from: billhowardAndy Noel's hires have been pretty good. Let's see how it pans out.

True enough.

We are not really in a position to hire an experienced and successful coach and then expect, if he succeeds, that he will stay. Maybe this is an attempt to end the Coaching Churn. If nothing else a Cornellian isn't going to exhaust himself in a losing effort butting up against academic requirements for recruits.

And look on the bright side. The longer we suck at football, the more alumni support will realign behind hockey.

billhoward · January 04, 2013, 01:39:02 PM

Nothing wrong with youth if it's the right coach. Look at the Ned Harkness successors: Richie Moran arrived at 32, had an unbeaten lacrosse season at 33 (no tourney), NCAA title at 34, and three titles total by 40. Dick Bertrand arrived as hockey coach at 29 and had 2 NCAA title shots by age 33. An alumnus head coach is always good. Okay, so that was a while ago.

I really bought into the idea that Kent Austin was tired of big time football and the machinations of keeping players eligible and wanted to do something decent in the next act of his career, maybe be the Pete Caril of Ivy football.

Look at how quickly Princeton reloaded. They were in the same boat as Cornell 3-4 years ago.

Ken711 · January 04, 2013, 01:54:31 PM

I just hope he brings in some new strong coordinators. On offense, how about developing something of a running game for a change. On defense, having the linemen and linebackers be the leading tacklers in post-game stats, instead of the defensive backs. Lastly, although Archer is being praised as great recruiter, they really need to focus on recruiting better size linemen in future recruiting classes. Harvard recruits a 6'7" 310lb OT, and Cornell recruits a 6'4" 260 lb OT.

billhoward · January 04, 2013, 02:03:51 PM

Quote from: Ken711I just hope he brings in some new strong coordinators. On offense, how about developing something of a running game for a change. On defense, having the linemen and linebackers be the leading tacklers in post-game stats, instead of the defensive backs. Lastly, although Archer is being praised as great recruiter, they really need to focus on recruiting better size linemen in future recruiting classes. Harvard recruits a 6'7" 310lb OT, and Cornell recruits a 6'4" 260 lb OT.

Harvard linemen so big they *all* had to wear knee braces on the outside.