ECAC back to Lake Placid 2014

[Jordan 04]

The student part of the crowd is just going to be drinking and screwing anyway.  At least I would hope so.

If they didn't go to drink and screw in AC, I can't imagine they're champing at the bit to do so in Lake Placid.

[redice]

1) Who cares what there is to do other than watch the games? You'll be there to see Cornell win the ECAC Championship, not see the sights. Price, distance, hotel reservations, and scheduling conflicts are all legitimate reasons not to go but "I'll be bored" is not.

Congratulations on deciding for everyone here what should and should not be important to us.  If you'd ever had to kill a Sunday in Troy waiting for the third game of a three-game series, you might feel differently.

I think that a regular season game against RPI is a little different than the ECAC championship game.

Also, I don't believe for a second that anyone who posts here regularly (and thus probably considers themselves a die-hard Cornell hockey fan) would skip going to Lake Placid to see the team play simply because of a perceived lack of things to do.

Then you need to open up those young & untrained eyes!!    As a Cornell Hockey fan of 45 years, I resent someone who is still wet behind the ears being arrogant enough to imply that I am not a die-hard Cornell Hockey fan because of perceived lack of things to do.   As you may guess, I am considerably older than you and I don't care for the same recreational opportunities as your generation.    I'm okay with that.   Remember, with a little luck, you'll be where I am some day!!   But, in the meantime, try to show a bit more humility!!   It's a very redeeming quality!!

Back to LP:   No, I don't give a damn about going to LP and have no plans to go there.   Nor will I criticize you for going and having a good time.   Enjoy!!    I will find other things to enjoy in March until the ECAC comes to their senses...

[Trotsky]

I think there is one thing we can all agree on, and that's that the season can't get here soon enough.

[ugarte]

I think there is one thing we can all agree on, and that's that the season can't get here soon enough.

well, that and 4 more years!*

* I'm sorry.

[Jordan 04]

I think there is one thing we can all agree on, and that's that the season can't get here soon enough.

well, that and 4 more years!*

* I'm sorry.

I, for one, hope Schafer stays beyond 2016.

[Rosey]

Sigh. I guess we'll be driving in from Hague rather than paying the local hotel ransom.

Still, even with all that driving, it still beats AC.

[sen '08]

I for one really enjoyed the small-town nature of Lake Placid during the ECACs.  It meant that you couldn't help but run into everyone!  It had a great community feel.  Plus, you can't beat the history of the rink.

For those who are worried about hotel prices - try Saranac Lake, and if you're willing to drive a little, Tupper Lake.  The prices there are much more reasonable.  I lived up there for a couple years, and I wasn't bored out of my mind!  If you're looking for something to do between games, check out The Wild Center http://wildcenter.org/  You can easily kill a whole day there, and it's good for spouses and kids...

[Trotsky]

I for one really enjoyed the small-town nature of Lake Placid during the ECACs.  It meant that you couldn't help but run into everyone!  It had a great community feel.

I really liked this, too.  The Clarkson and SLU fans would come as enormous extended families and they were a hoot.  It was also fantastic ECAC Watching with former greats all over town.

[jtn27]

1) Who cares what there is to do other than watch the games? You'll be there to see Cornell win the ECAC Championship, not see the sights. Price, distance, hotel reservations, and scheduling conflicts are all legitimate reasons not to go but "I'll be bored" is not.

Congratulations on deciding for everyone here what should and should not be important to us.  If you'd ever had to kill a Sunday in Troy waiting for the third game of a three-game series, you might feel differently.

I think that a regular season game against RPI is a little different than the ECAC championship game.

Also, I don't believe for a second that anyone who posts here regularly (and thus probably considers themselves a die-hard Cornell hockey fan) would skip going to Lake Placid to see the team play simply because of a perceived lack of things to do.

Then you need to open up those young & untrained eyes!!    As a Cornell Hockey fan of 45 years, I resent someone who is still wet behind the ears being arrogant enough to imply that I am not a die-hard Cornell Hockey fan because of perceived lack of things to do.   As you may guess, I am considerably older than you and I don't care for the same recreational opportunities as your generation.    I'm okay with that.   Remember, with a little luck, you'll be where I am some day!!   But, in the meantime, try to show a bit more humility!!   It's a very redeeming quality!!

Back to LP:   No, I don't give a damn about going to LP and have no plans to go there.   Nor will I criticize you for going and having a good time.   Enjoy!!    I will find other things to enjoy in March until the ECAC comes to their senses...

My intention was never to imply that you or anyone else here is not a die-hard Cornell Hockey fan. Rather, it was to say that despite complaining now, I suspect that if in a year and a half Cornell is playing in Lake Placid many of you will find yourselves in attendance, and for those that aren't it will be for reasons other than a lack of things to do.

[Al DeFlorio]

1) Who cares what there is to do other than watch the games? You'll be there to see Cornell win the ECAC Championship, not see the sights. Price, distance, hotel reservations, and scheduling conflicts are all legitimate reasons not to go but "I'll be bored" is not.

Congratulations on deciding for everyone here what should and should not be important to us.  If you'd ever had to kill a Sunday in Troy waiting for the third game of a three-game series, you might feel differently.

I think that a regular season game against RPI is a little different than the ECAC championship game.

Also, I don't believe for a second that anyone who posts here regularly (and thus probably considers themselves a die-hard Cornell hockey fan) would skip going to Lake Placid to see the team play simply because of a perceived lack of things to do.

Then you need to open up those young & untrained eyes!!    As a Cornell Hockey fan of 45 years, I resent someone who is still wet behind the ears being arrogant enough to imply that I am not a die-hard Cornell Hockey fan because of perceived lack of things to do.   As you may guess, I am considerably older than you and I don't care for the same recreational opportunities as your generation.    I'm okay with that.   Remember, with a little luck, you'll be where I am some day!!   But, in the meantime, try to show a bit more humility!!   It's a very redeeming quality!!

Back to LP:   No, I don't give a damn about going to LP and have no plans to go there.   Nor will I criticize you for going and having a good time.   Enjoy!!    I will find other things to enjoy in March until the ECAC comes to their senses...

My intention was never to imply that you or anyone else here is not a die-hard Cornell Hockey fan. Rather, it was to say that despite complaining now, I suspect that if in a year and a half Cornell is playing in Lake Placid many of you will find yourselves in attendance, and for those that aren't it will be for reasons other than a lack of things to do.

Let me try to clarify this "things to do" issue.  If someone is going to the ECACs to see the tournament, and only the tournament, then it should be held in a place that is easy to get to for fans and has a fan-friendly hotel reservation policy.  And that's not Lake Placid.  If the ECAC chooses to hold it in a place that is difficult to get to (we've heard already about the joy of getting to LP by train--train to Troy, cab to Albany, bus to LP--and don't even think about flights for someone like Keith) there ought to be some additional attractiveness to justify the more difficult travel experience.  Else why not hold the tournament in a convenient location?  Both Albany and Providence, the two other bidders, are accessible by interstates, bus and Amtrak service, and have real airports with real airlines servicing them.

I know this is a crazy example, but if the tournament were to be held in Washington, DC, it would be equally inconvenient for me to get there (as LP), but I could stay extra nights and visit the Smithsonian, the monuments, the National Gallery, the Archives, etc.  It would make it worth the additional effort in getting there.  Now, if LP were located in Saratoga Springs or Concord, NH, or anyplace easily accessible, the fact that there's nothing of interest for me other than the tournament would be immaterial. I just don't understand choosing a remote, difficult-to-reach site with frequently dreadful weather for travel and a historically restrictive hotel reservation policy--not to mention a goofy-sized ice surface--for a tournament when there are much more accessible and attractive alternatives interested in hosting it.

[adamw]

If you don't like Lake Placid, you don't have a soul. Clearly. Eh?

AC is 80 minutes drive for me. LP is 5 1/2 hrs, at best. Yet I'm more than happy to be making the trip. For the umpteenth time....to each their own.

[Al DeFlorio]

If you don't like Lake Placid, you don't have a soul. Clearly. Eh?

AC is 80 minutes drive for me. LP is 5 1/2 hrs, at best. Yet I'm more than happy to be making the trip. For the umpteenth time....to each their own.

That's right, Adam.  It's not that I don't like Lake Placid.  I don't like spending nine hours driving there in iffy weather when it would be possible to hold the tournament in a much more accessible place.  Not everyone, I'm sorry you haven't learned by now, feels the same as you about everything.

Your "soul" wisecrack, by the way, cheapens you.  Clearly.  Eh?

[adamw]

If you don't like Lake Placid, you don't have a soul. Clearly. Eh?

AC is 80 minutes drive for me. LP is 5 1/2 hrs, at best. Yet I'm more than happy to be making the trip. For the umpteenth time....to each their own.

That's right, Adam.  It's not that I don't like Lake Placid.  I don't like spending nine hours driving there in iffy weather when it would be possible to hold the tournament in a much more accessible place.  Not everyone, I'm sorry you haven't learned by now, feels the same as you about everything.

Your "soul" wisecrack, by the way, cheapens you.  Clearly.  Eh?

Was clearly a joke. A guy who makes a living nastily ripping people, tells me I'm cheapened? Ok.

And the fact that you're telling me that not everyone feels the same is hilarious, when I'm the one who has said over and over, ad nauseum, that... to each their own. I'll let others decide who is the one being more belligerent about trying to tell everyone what to think.

[redice]

1) Who cares what there is to do other than watch the games? You'll be there to see Cornell win the ECAC Championship, not see the sights. Price, distance, hotel reservations, and scheduling conflicts are all legitimate reasons not to go but "I'll be bored" is not.

Congratulations on deciding for everyone here what should and should not be important to us.  If you'd ever had to kill a Sunday in Troy waiting for the third game of a three-game series, you might feel differently.

I think that a regular season game against RPI is a little different than the ECAC championship game.

Also, I don't believe for a second that anyone who posts here regularly (and thus probably considers themselves a die-hard Cornell hockey fan) would skip going to Lake Placid to see the team play simply because of a perceived lack of things to do.

Then you need to open up those young & untrained eyes!!    As a Cornell Hockey fan of 45 years, I resent someone who is still wet behind the ears being arrogant enough to imply that I am not a die-hard Cornell Hockey fan because of perceived lack of things to do.   As you may guess, I am considerably older than you and I don't care for the same recreational opportunities as your generation.    I'm okay with that.   Remember, with a little luck, you'll be where I am some day!!   But, in the meantime, try to show a bit more humility!!   It's a very redeeming quality!!

Back to LP:   No, I don't give a damn about going to LP and have no plans to go there.   Nor will I criticize you for going and having a good time.   Enjoy!!    I will find other things to enjoy in March until the ECAC comes to their senses...

My intention was never to imply that you or anyone else here is not a die-hard Cornell Hockey fan. Rather, it was to say that despite complaining now, I suspect that if in a year and a half Cornell is playing in Lake Placid many of you will find yourselves in attendance, and for those that aren't it will be for reasons other than a lack of things to do.

I never expected that it was your intention to imply such a thing....   But, words have meaning & consequences.   That's how the words came across.   And, I find it offensive.  

And your expectation that, if in a year and a half Cornell is playing in Lake Placid I will find myself in attendance, is not likely to hold true.....    It didn't happened in the 1990's and it's not going to happen now.  

I don't know what is so hard for you & some others to understand about the concept that I (& others) find nothing interesting about LP except the ECAC Hockey tournament.    Frankly, that's not enough to attract me to LP.    If I'm going to travel in March for a hockey tournament in March, I'd rather go to Boston and watch the HE tournament.   Granted, I'm not seeing Cornell play...   But, I'm probably seeing a better brand of hockey and definitely have better off-hockey tourist-type choices to make.    And, for the years that Cornell doesn't advance to LP, the HE tourney is a slamdunk!!   I'm okay with this choice; you're okay with LP...   So, what's the problem?

[bnr24]

1) Who cares what there is to do other than watch the games? You'll be there to see Cornell win the ECAC Championship, not see the sights. Price, distance, hotel reservations, and scheduling conflicts are all legitimate reasons not to go but "I'll be bored" is not.

Congratulations on deciding for everyone here what should and should not be important to us.  If you'd ever had to kill a Sunday in Troy waiting for the third game of a three-game series, you might feel differently.

I think that a regular season game against RPI is a little different than the ECAC championship game.

Also, I don't believe for a second that anyone who posts here regularly (and thus probably considers themselves a die-hard Cornell hockey fan) would skip going to Lake Placid to see the team play simply because of a perceived lack of things to do.

Then you need to open up those young & untrained eyes!!    As a Cornell Hockey fan of 45 years, I resent someone who is still wet behind the ears being arrogant enough to imply that I am not a die-hard Cornell Hockey fan because of perceived lack of things to do.   As you may guess, I am considerably older than you and I don't care for the same recreational opportunities as your generation.    I'm okay with that.   Remember, with a little luck, you'll be where I am some day!!   But, in the meantime, try to show a bit more humility!!   It's a very redeeming quality!!

Back to LP:   No, I don't give a damn about going to LP and have no plans to go there.   Nor will I criticize you for going and having a good time.   Enjoy!!    I will find other things to enjoy in March until the ECAC comes to their senses...

My intention was never to imply that you or anyone else here is not a die-hard Cornell Hockey fan. Rather, it was to say that despite complaining now, I suspect that if in a year and a half Cornell is playing in Lake Placid many of you will find yourselves in attendance, and for those that aren't it will be for reasons other than a lack of things to do.

I never expected that it was your intention to imply such a thing....   But, words have meaning & consequences.   That's how the words came across.   And, I find it offensive.  

And your expectation that, if in a year and a half Cornell is playing in Lake Placid I will find myself in attendance, is not likely to hold true.....    It didn't happened in the 1990's and it's not going to happen now.  

I don't know what is so hard for you & some others to understand about the concept that I (& others) find nothing interesting about LP except the ECAC Hockey tournament.    Frankly, that's not enough to attract me to LP.    If I'm going to travel in March for a hockey tournament in March, I'd rather go to Boston and watch the HE tournament.   Granted, I'm not seeing Cornell play...   But, I'm probably seeing a better brand of hockey and definitely have better off-hockey tourist-type choices to make.    And, for the years that Cornell doesn't advance to LP, the HE tourney is a slamdunk!!   I'm okay with this choice; you're okay with LP...   So, what's the problem?

Have fun in Boston!  I think the point was, some of us think the choice is a good one. If you won't be there, that is definitely your decision.  But for those of us who are going to watch Cornell hockey, the attractions are a bonus, not a prerequisite.