Cornell-Ferris State In Progress

[Scersk '97]

And for years, they held the highest all-time winning % in college hockey.

Moving from Walker Arena to Cheel changed all that.  Well, that and George Roll.  Boy was I wrong about him.

[css228]

We respect Clarkson?

Back when they were constantly in the league's top four, it was hard not to.

Oh I definitely respect Casey, and I consider them a rival, but I'm not sure its a respect thing. I definitely enjoy playing them, and think they have the second best fans/tradition in the ECAC, but I just don't like them. I think their band is a music group with a drinking problem, and every time we play them, I'm pumped for the game. I'm not sure its quite hatred, but its definitely more that's just respected rivals for me . It feels like a controversial hatefest can break out at any moment given the right incident against them, unlike Sucks, where we'll probably just create one as a reason to hate on Sucks. They lie for me somewhere on that line between respect and hate, though I'd be closer to hate if Casey weren't coaching there.

[RichH]

Union is afflicted with many jerky bandwagon fans, but the core fan base (all 300 of them) has been suffering for decades and is now getting a great payoff.  If that isn't paying dues, I'm not sure what is.

Did they pay those dues with the pennies from the milk jugs they shake at games?  For years, they couldn't be bothered to yell or clap, but they would shake their loose change they carried around in garbage in your face like a baby's rattle.

OK, I'm done. :-P

Go Union, I guess.  Whee.

[cbuckser]

It's all about what's best for Cornell, and that's why I'll be rooting hard for Union.  When the neighborhood improves, your property value goes up.

Exactly.

I should add that I've had very positive interactions with #UnionHockey fans in the Twitterverse.  We were rooting hard for each other's schools last weekend.

[jtwcornell91]

We respect Clarkson?

Back when they were constantly in the league's top four, it was hard not to.

Wow, it's really feast or famine for SLU.  I guess it comes down to whether the refs are holding them back from being the greatest team of all time that year.

Nah, it was (bothers me to type that) the Joe Marsh plan.  He seemed to build for national championship runs once every four years or so rather than for year-in/year-out consistency.

It's a good way to win multiple COTY awards.

[Jim Hyla]

We respect Clarkson?

Back when they were constantly in the league's top four, it was hard not to.

Wow, it's really feast or famine for SLU.  I guess it comes down to whether the refs are holding them back from being the greatest team of all time that year.

Nah, it was (bothers me to type that) the Joe Marsh plan.  He seemed to build for national championship runs once every four years or so rather than for year-in/year-out consistency.

It's a good way to win multiple COTY awards.

But somehow Union's found a better way. Now that they are known to have a good program, do you think they can stop giving the award to them? I mean they have more COTY awards than any other school. And what do have to show for it. Another of my reasons why I find it hard to root for them.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

We respect Clarkson?

Back when they were constantly in the league's top four, it was hard not to.

Wow, it's really feast or famine for SLU.  I guess it comes down to whether the refs are holding them back from being the greatest team of all time that year.

Nah, it was (bothers me to type that) the Joe Marsh plan.  He seemed to build for national championship runs once every four years or so rather than for year-in/year-out consistency.

It's a good way to win multiple COTY awards.

But somehow Union's found a better way. Now that they are known to have a good program, do you think they can stop giving the award to them? I mean they have more COTY awards than any other school. And what do have to show for it. Another of my reasons why I find it hard to root for them.

Never thought of that one. I will add it to my list.

[Jim Hyla]

So now Union's coach, Bennett, is a finalist for the Spencer Penrose Award, otherwise known as national coach of the year. Since their former coach won it last year, it only seems fair that he gets it this year.

[ajh258]

So now Union's coach, Bennett, is a finalist for the Spencer Penrose Award, otherwise known as national coach of the year. Since their former coach won it last year, it only seems fair that he gets it this year.

As much as I dislike another ECAC team getting the spotlight, I do not dislike Union, and the program has won my respect over the years I've been here.

On a more relevant note, Bennett definitely deserves the recognition for Spencer Penrose, and it won't be surprising if he wins it in the end.

[Jim Hyla]

So now Union's coach, Bennett, is a finalist for the Spencer Penrose Award, otherwise known as national coach of the year. Since their former coach won it last year, it only seems fair that he gets it this year.

As much as I dislike another ECAC team getting the spotlight, I do not dislike Union, and the program has won my respect over the years I've been here.

On a more relevant note, Bennett definitely deserves the recognition for Spencer Penrose, and it won't be surprising if he wins it in the end.

You see my problem is that how many years in a row is a team supposed to get the award. I generally think of the award as for exceeding expectations, or getting an unusually good result. But once your team has done well, and you've won it a few times, isn't that the expectation? Teams like ours are expected to do well, so are never as likely to get it. When Coach Schafer came we had had losing records for 3 years. He took them to 2 ECAC championships his first 2 years, and who won the awards, SLU and Union. Unions feat was so good they finished last the next year. If Union does well again next year, will he deserve it again? No, in my view Union should have been expected to do well this year, and someone like Casey Jones had to be considered. For the Penrose, Ferris or Lowell are much more deserving.

[marty]

I'm intrigued that this game is still in progress.  More to the point, I am wondering after only 8 + years on the forum why no one ever changes the subject headings in the threads.

So help a newbie out and tell me does the question mark in the subject for this message warp some elynah continuum of which I have been hereto unaware?

Or welcome to golf season.:-P

[jtn27]

I'm intrigued that this game is still in progress.  More to the point, I am wondering after only 8 + years on the forum why no one ever changes the subject headings in the threads.

So help a newbie out and tell me does the question mark in the subject for this message warp some elynah continuum of which I have been hereto unaware?

Or welcome to golf season.:-P

The Ferris State game never ended. Cornell did not give up the losing goal immediately after failing to score on a 5 minute power play. It's still 1-1 going into the 100th overtime.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

I'm intrigued that this game is still in progress.  More to the point, I am wondering after only 8 + years on the forum why no one ever changes the subject headings in the threads.

So help a newbie out and tell me does the question mark in the subject for this message warp some elynah continuum of which I have been hereto unaware?

Or welcome to golf season.:-P

The Ferris State game never ended. Cornell did not give up the losing goal immediately after failing to score on a 5 minute power play. It's still 1-1 going into the 100th overtime.

ESPNU must have frozen for you. It's about halfway through the 119th OT. Let's Go Red!!! Frozen Four-bound!!!

[marty]

I'm intrigued that this game is still in progress.  More to the point, I am wondering after only 8 + years on the forum why no one ever changes the subject headings in the threads.

So help a newbie out and tell me does the question mark in the subject for this message warp some elynah continuum of which I have been hereto unaware?

Or welcome to golf season.:-P

The Ferris State game never ended. Cornell did not give up the losing goal immediately after failing to score on a 5 minute power play. It's still 1-1 going into the 100th overtime.

Interesting idea because over the last decade I have decided that this is my definition of hell - being at a rink (not Lynah I'm sure) and watching the game go on for eternity - BU vs BC anyone.

[Swampy]

So now Union's coach, Bennett, is a finalist for the Spencer Penrose Award, otherwise known as national coach of the year. Since their former coach won it last year, it only seems fair that he gets it this year.

As much as I dislike another ECAC team getting the spotlight, I do not dislike Union, and the program has won my respect over the years I've been here.

On a more relevant note, Bennett definitely deserves the recognition for Spencer Penrose, and it won't be surprising if he wins it in the end.

You see my problem is that how many years in a row is a team supposed to get the award. I generally think of the award as for exceeding expectations, or getting an unusually good result. But once your team has done well, and you've won it a few times, isn't that the expectation? Teams like ours are expected to do well, so are never as likely to get it. When Coach Schafer came we had had losing records for 3 years. He took them to 2 ECAC championships his first 2 years, and who won the awards, SLU and Union. Unions feat was so good they finished last the next year. If Union does well again next year, will he deserve it again? No, in my view Union should have been expected to do well this year, and someone like Casey Jones had to be considered. For the Penrose, Ferris or Lowell are much more deserving.

BTW, given how our season went and how this team developed, let's give kudos to Schafer and his new staff. They did a terrific job. ::cheer::