Harvard 6 Cornell 1 ECAC post-game & site critique

[CKinsland]

This is interesting because I renewed my license here in CT a few months ago and was given the option of paying more and getting the enhanced license. They told me that my license would expire before I needed it to fly and that it otherwise had no purpose whatsoever so there was no point in getting it even though I'd dug through papers for an hour to find the 75 required points of ID. Apparently passport isn't good enough. You need passport AND birth certificate AND social security card or something equally ridiculous.

None of the paperwork mentioned anything about Canada, only air travel.

The enhanced licenses (EDL) are only good for non-air travel between the US, Canada, Mexico and some Caribbean Islands (so, useful for cruise ship travel to select locations).  The kids and I have been across the border into Canada a couple of times in the last two years (we live in Ithaca).  We've never had a delay or any issues with using them.  

I don't recall it being a ridiculous list of ID items required.  Perhaps social security card, birth certificate and proof of residence (in our three cases, bank statements to our home address was sufficient).  

Maybe CT is far enough from the border that your DMV workers aren't as familiar with their uses?  

CK

[Jim Hyla]

So Union is pulling a Harvard.

By Ken Schott
Thursday, March 22, 2012

With the Union students on their winter trimester break, the Dutchmen's band won't be playing at the NCAA hockey tournament East Regionals in Bridgeport, Conn.

But the team did the next-best thing — it hired the Sacred Heart band to sit in.

Did they have a band at AC?

[Aaron M. Griffin]

So Union is pulling a Harvard.

By Ken Schott
Thursday, March 22, 2012

With the Union students on their winter trimester break, the Dutchmen's band won't be playing at the NCAA hockey tournament East Regionals in Bridgeport, Conn.

But the team did the next-best thing — it hired the Sacred Heart band to sit in.

Did they have a band at AC?

No. That's what I found odd when Without a Peer wrote about their choice to hire a band for the East Regional.

[css228]

So Union is pulling a Harvard.

By Ken Schott
Thursday, March 22, 2012

With the Union students on their winter trimester break, the Dutchmen's band won't be playing at the NCAA hockey tournament East Regionals in Bridgeport, Conn.

But the team did the next-best thing — it hired the Sacred Heart band to sit in.

Did they have a band at AC?

A: Union, Harvard, and North Korea
Q: What are teams that have to hire fake fans?

[Jim Hyla]

So Union is pulling a Harvard.

By Ken Schott
Thursday, March 22, 2012

With the Union students on their winter trimester break, the Dutchmen's band won't be playing at the NCAA hockey tournament East Regionals in Bridgeport, Conn.

But the team did the next-best thing — it hired the Sacred Heart band to sit in.

Did they have a band at AC?

No. That's what I found odd when Without a Peer wrote about their choice to hire a band for the East Regional.

I didn't think they did, but wondered when I read that. I guess they felt their ECAC fans didn't deserve it. And maybe they didn't.

[Jim Hyla]

Interesting Times-Union article on Union hockey.

[jtn27]

Interesting Times-Union article on Union hockey.

They made The New York Times too.

[RichH]

So Union is pulling a Harvard.

By Ken Schott
Thursday, March 22, 2012

With the Union students on their winter trimester break, the Dutchmen's band won't be playing at the NCAA hockey tournament East Regionals in Bridgeport, Conn.

But the team did the next-best thing — it hired the Sacred Heart band to sit in.

Did they have a band at AC?

No. That's what I found odd when Without a Peer wrote about their choice to hire a band for the East Regional.

I didn't think they did, but wondered when I read that. I guess they felt their ECAC fans didn't deserve it. And maybe they didn't.

As our Cornell group was walking from dinner to the NCAA Championship game in Tampa, I overheard a good chunk of a conversation a Union official or other in-the-know guy was having.  There was a 25-person Union band at the semifinal wearing white t-shirts with the Union logo.  According to this guy I eavesdropped on, they were actually members of the University of South Florida band that Union hired.

He also provided some further insight.  The story as I heard it is that Union only has 8-12 kids in the band (I think it's new), and when the NCAA informed them that the band of the higher seed plays the National Anthem at Tournament games, the director said "oh, they can't handle that yet," and Union decided to hire substitute bands.  That's an acceptable excuse, but I hope that they still gave those Union bandies an opportunity to travel and play with SHU and USF.

[jtn27]

As our Cornell group was walking from dinner to the NCAA Championship game in Tampa, I overheard a good chunk of a conversation a Union official or other in-the-know guy was having.  There was a 25-person Union band at the semifinal wearing white t-shirts with the Union logo.  According to this guy I eavesdropped on, they were actually members of the University of South Florida band that Union hired.

He also provided some further insight.  The story as I heard it is that Union only has 8-12 kids in the band (I think it's new), and when the NCAA informed them that the band of the higher seed plays the National Anthem at Tournament games, the director said "oh, they can't handle that yet," and Union decided to hire substitute bands.  That's an acceptable excuse, but I hope that they still gave those Union bandies an opportunity to travel and play with SHU and USF.

I think that just barely clears the very high bar for what is considered an acceptable reason to hire another school's band, but it begs the question what self-respecting college band can't play the national anthem or learn it with 2 weeks notice? No matter how badly the band played it, it couldn't possibly be worse than what the Fray did at the basketball championship game.

[jkahn]

As our Cornell group was walking from dinner to the NCAA Championship game in Tampa, I overheard a good chunk of a conversation a Union official or other in-the-know guy was having.  There was a 25-person Union band at the semifinal wearing white t-shirts with the Union logo.  According to this guy I eavesdropped on, they were actually members of the University of South Florida band that Union hired.

He also provided some further insight.  The story as I heard it is that Union only has 8-12 kids in the band (I think it's new), and when the NCAA informed them that the band of the higher seed plays the National Anthem at Tournament games, the director said "oh, they can't handle that yet," and Union decided to hire substitute bands.  That's an acceptable excuse, but I hope that they still gave those Union bandies an opportunity to travel and play with SHU and USF.

I think that just barely clears the very high bar for what is considered an acceptable reason to hire another school's band, but it begs the question what self-respecting college band can't play the national anthem or learn it with 2 weeks notice? No matter how badly the band played it, it couldn't possibly be worse than what the Fray did at the basketball championship game.

At the Michigan game, our band played the anthem.  Knowing that it was normally done by the higher seeded team, I figured that the Michigan band passed on the opportunity, as it wasn't in their one song repertoire.

[jtn27]

According to an article in the Schenectady Daily Gazette, the ECAC will finish out the third year of its contract with Atlantic City's Boardwalk Hall, and is accepting bids for the tournament for 2014-16. Albany's Times-Union Center has already announced that it will submit a bid. Atlantic City, Lake Placid, Bridgeport, and Providence are also expected to submit bids.

[Scersk '97]

According to an article in the Schenectady Daily Gazette, the ECAC will finish out the third year of its contract with Atlantic City's Boardwalk Hall...

That's not how I read it.  Perhaps it's wishful thinking, but I found a blissful lack of certitude regarding where next year's tournament will be, e.g., Hagwell did not weigh in to say, "Gee, we'll definitely be back in AC next year, but the bid process is wide open after that."

[jtn27]

According to an article in the Schenectady Daily Gazette, the ECAC will finish out the third year of its contract with Atlantic City's Boardwalk Hall...

That's not how I read it.  Perhaps it's wishful thinking, but I found a blissful lack of certitude regarding where next year's tournament will be, e.g., Hagwell did not weigh in to say, "Gee, we'll definitely be back in AC next year, but the bid process is wide open after that."

I interpreted this part to mean that it would be back in AC next year:

The bid is for the 2014-16 tournaments. The ECACH tournament concludes its three-year deal with Atlantic City, N.J., next season.

If they weren't planning on returning in 2013, the bid would be for 2013-16.

[marty]

If they weren't planning on returning in 2013, the bid would be for 2013-16.

If you watch this video (which I posted a few weeks ago) you will likely come to the conclusion that the 14-16 contract is not connected to next year.  I am not saying that I expect the contract to be broken, but the bid process was set weeks ago.

Belber of TU Center

[Roy 82]

Do we really need to be reminded of this game while having a discussion about future ECAC venues?

::smashfreak::