MSG Hockey v. Michigan

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Aaron M. Griffin

Update pertaining to this thread. Matt Slovin, who is the student sports editor for The Michigan Daily who is also the beat reporter for Michigan hockey, tweeted two hours ago:

Quote from: @MattSlovinCan confirm: Michigan Hockey to play Cornell next season, per Berenson. Game will be played in New York.
Class of 2010

2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009   Ithaca      6-3
02/19/2010   Cambridge   3-0
03/12/2010   Ithaca      5-1
03/13/2010   Ithaca      3-0

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Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinUpdate pertaining to this thread. Matt Slovin, who is the student sports editor for The Michigan Daily who is also the beat reporter for Michigan hockey, tweeted two hours ago:

Quote from: @MattSlovinCan confirm: Michigan Hockey to play Cornell next season, per Berenson. Game will be played in New York.
The originals vs the impersonators... and a great game on the ice too!

jtn27

Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinUpdate pertaining to this thread. Matt Slovin, who is the student sports editor for The Michigan Daily who is also the beat reporter for Michigan hockey, tweeted two hours ago:

Quote from: @MattSlovinCan confirm: Michigan Hockey to play Cornell next season, per Berenson. Game will be played in New York.

I asked Matt Slovin whether "New York" means MSG (as we all suspected) or Ithaca. Here's his response:

Quote from: @MattSlovinSounds like MSG. Michigan coach's statement was purposefully ambiguous.

Link: https://twitter.com/#!/MattSlovin/status/169958158511517696
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Aaron M. Griffin

Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinUpdate pertaining to this thread. Matt Slovin, who is the student sports editor for The Michigan Daily who is also the beat reporter for Michigan hockey, tweeted two hours ago:

Quote from: @MattSlovinCan confirm: Michigan Hockey to play Cornell next season, per Berenson. Game will be played in New York.

I asked Matt Slovin whether "New York" means MSG (as we all suspected) or Ithaca. Here's his response:

Quote from: @MattSlovinSounds like MSG. Michigan coach's statement was purposefully ambiguous.

Link: https://twitter.com/#!/MattSlovin/status/169958158511517696

I caught the ambiguity with the choice of "New York." People familiar with the talks in Michigan stated that they believe that the Cornell-Michigan game will be scheduled around Thanksgiving like when the College Hockey Showcase used to be scheduled. The dates align with when the BU-Cornell games have been played at MSG. That would make it November 24, 2012.

At least with the choice of words "New York," we can rule out the possibility of playing another game at the Prudential Center next season during that time slot.
Class of 2010

2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009   Ithaca      6-3
02/19/2010   Cambridge   3-0
03/12/2010   Ithaca      5-1
03/13/2010   Ithaca      3-0

jtwcornell91

Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinUpdate pertaining to this thread. Matt Slovin, who is the student sports editor for The Michigan Daily who is also the beat reporter for Michigan hockey, tweeted two hours ago:

Quote from: @MattSlovinCan confirm: Michigan Hockey to play Cornell next season, per Berenson. Game will be played in New York.

I asked Matt Slovin whether "New York" means MSG (as we all suspected) or Ithaca. Here's his response:

Quote from: @MattSlovinSounds like MSG. Michigan coach's statement was purposefully ambiguous.

Link: https://twitter.com/#!/MattSlovin/status/169958158511517696

I caught the ambiguity with the choice of "New York." People familiar with the talks in Michigan stated that they believe that the Cornell-Michigan game will be scheduled around Thanksgiving like when the College Hockey Showcase used to be scheduled. The dates align with when the BU-Cornell games have been played at MSG. That would make it November 24, 2012.

At least with the choice of words "New York," we can rule out the possibility of playing another game at the Prudential Center next season during that time slot.

But not Nassau Coliseum. ::uhoh::

ajh258

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Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinUpdate pertaining to this thread. Matt Slovin, who is the student sports editor for The Michigan Daily who is also the beat reporter for Michigan hockey, tweeted two hours ago:

Quote from: @MattSlovinCan confirm: Michigan Hockey to play Cornell next season, per Berenson. Game will be played in New York.

I asked Matt Slovin whether "New York" means MSG (as we all suspected) or Ithaca. Here's his response:

Quote from: @MattSlovinSounds like MSG. Michigan coach's statement was purposefully ambiguous.

Link: https://twitter.com/#!/MattSlovin/status/169958158511517696

I caught the ambiguity with the choice of "New York." People familiar with the talks in Michigan stated that they believe that the Cornell-Michigan game will be scheduled around Thanksgiving like when the College Hockey Showcase used to be scheduled. The dates align with when the BU-Cornell games have been played at MSG. That would make it November 24, 2012.

At least with the choice of words "New York," we can rule out the possibility of playing another game at the Prudential Center next season during that time slot.

But not Nassau Coliseum. ::uhoh::
















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Rosey

Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinAt least with the choice of words "New York," we can rule out the possibility of playing another game at the Prudential Center next season during that time slot.
That's optimistic, but people refer to Somerville, Cambridge, Newton, and Wellesley as "Boston" all the time, yet none of them are actually in Boston. The Pru is close enough to New York to qualify as "New York" to someone like Red.
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Jim Hyla

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Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinAt least with the choice of words "New York," we can rule out the possibility of playing another game at the Prudential Center next season during that time slot.
That's optimistic, but people refer to Somerville, Cambridge, Newton, and Wellesley as "Boston" all the time, yet none of them are actually in Boston. The Pru is close enough to New York to qualify as "New York" to someone like Red.
But at least those are all in Mass. It's common to refer to city suburbs in the same state by the city. I've not seen that for out of state suburbs, but maybe it happens.
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KeithK

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Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinAt least with the choice of words "New York," we can rule out the possibility of playing another game at the Prudential Center next season during that time slot.
That's optimistic, but people refer to Somerville, Cambridge, Newton, and Wellesley as "Boston" all the time, yet none of them are actually in Boston. The Pru is close enough to New York to qualify as "New York" to someone like Red.
But at least those are all in Mass. It's common to refer to city suburbs in the same state by the city. I've not seen that for out of state suburbs, but maybe it happens.
Remind me which team won the Super Bowl? (and where they play).

Robb

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinAt least with the choice of words "New York," we can rule out the possibility of playing another game at the Prudential Center next season during that time slot.
That's optimistic, but people refer to Somerville, Cambridge, Newton, and Wellesley as "Boston" all the time, yet none of them are actually in Boston. The Pru is close enough to New York to qualify as "New York" to someone like Red.
But at least those are all in Mass. It's common to refer to city suburbs in the same state by the city. I've not seen that for out of state suburbs, but maybe it happens.
Haven't specifically heard it either, but surely the eastern suburbs are still "in Philadelphia" and the western suburbs are "in Kansas City."
Let's Go RED!

Rosey

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Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinAt least with the choice of words "New York," we can rule out the possibility of playing another game at the Prudential Center next season during that time slot.
That's optimistic, but people refer to Somerville, Cambridge, Newton, and Wellesley as "Boston" all the time, yet none of them are actually in Boston. The Pru is close enough to New York to qualify as "New York" to someone like Red.
But at least those are all in Mass. It's common to refer to city suburbs in the same state by the city. I've not seen that for out of state suburbs, but maybe it happens.
I think you're disagreeing for the sake of being disagreeable. How many states share a name with a big city, where that big city is right on the border of another state? "New York" here clearly refers to the city. When you choose "New York airports" in Expedia, it includes LGA, JFK, and EWR. Newark is closer to midtown Manhattan than JFK. When my buddy who lives in Jersey City tells someone in Boston where he's from, he says "New York". Etc., etc.

And FWIW the Rock was not the problem with the game two years ago. I'd be perfectly happy hitting the Rock for a game between Cornell and Michigan. I would probably skip an MSG game between Cornell and Colgate.
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Beeeej

Quote from: Kyle RoseWhen you choose "New York airports" in Expedia, it includes LGA, JFK, and EWR. Newark is closer to midtown Manhattan than JFK.

No, it's not.

QuoteWhen my buddy who lives in Jersey City tells someone in Boston where he's from, he says "New York". Etc., etc.

Your buddy makes his own choices about what to tell people.  He may be saying "New York" because he doesn't want to deal with people ridiculing New Jersey every time he says that's where he lives, or he may be saying it because there's more cachet to "New YorK" than to "Jersey City."  But it doesn't mean that anybody who actually lives in New York considers Jersey City to be part of New York City in remotely the same way that people from Massachusetts might use "Boston" as shorthand for the various towns that border it.
Beeeej, Esq.

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Rosey

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Quote from: Kyle RoseWhen you choose "New York airports" in Expedia, it includes LGA, JFK, and EWR. Newark is closer to midtown Manhattan than JFK.

No, it's not.
Actually, it is, by any reasonable measure you might choose. I'll use Google Maps driving directions, which judges them closer to each other than the direct line I was originally implying.
http://g.co/maps/mu5ey
http://g.co/maps/kansg

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QuoteWhen my buddy who lives in Jersey City tells someone in Boston where he's from, he says "New York". Etc., etc.

Your buddy makes his own choices about what to tell people.  He may be saying "New York" because he doesn't want to deal with people ridiculing New Jersey every time he says that's where he lives, or he may be saying it because there's more cachet to "New YorK" than to "Jersey City."  But it doesn't mean that anybody who actually lives in New York considers Jersey City to be part of New York City in remotely the same way that people from Massachusetts might use "Boston" as shorthand for the various towns that border it.
I'm sure people in Boston would scoff at my telling people I'm from Boston when I really live in Somerville. But the issue here is what someone like Red Berenson means when he says "New York", not what a New Yorker means when he says "New York". Christ, is this really that hard to understand? I think you people like picking nits because you have nothing better to do. I'm simply making the point that Red might say "New York" even if the game is at the Rock.
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Beeeej

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Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Kyle RoseWhen you choose "New York airports" in Expedia, it includes LGA, JFK, and EWR. Newark is closer to midtown Manhattan than JFK.

No, it's not.
Actually, it is, by any reasonable measure you might choose. I'll use Google Maps driving directions, which judges them closer to each other than the direct line I was originally implying.
http://g.co/maps/mu5ey
http://g.co/maps/kansg

Yes, Newark is obviously closer to the west side of Manhattan than JFK is.  I thought you meant "midtown Manhattan" when you said "midtown Manhattan."  

http://g.co/maps/78zcc
http://g.co/maps/2aga3

QuoteI'm sure people in Boston would scoff at my telling people I'm from Boston when I really live in Somerville. But the issue here is what someone like Red Berenson means when he says "New York", not what a New Yorker means when he says "New York". Christ, is this really that hard to understand? I think you people like picking nits because you have nothing better to do. I'm simply making the point that Red might say "New York" even if the game is at the Rock.

And I think anybody who would say "New York" when the game is scheduled to be in Newark, New Jersey, in the building where the New Jersey Devils play, is an idiot.  I don't pick nits, I just don't think Red's an idiot.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Rosey

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Kyle RoseWhen you choose "New York airports" in Expedia, it includes LGA, JFK, and EWR. Newark is closer to midtown Manhattan than JFK.

No, it's not.
Actually, it is, by any reasonable measure you might choose. I'll use Google Maps driving directions, which judges them closer to each other than the direct line I was originally implying.
http://g.co/maps/mu5ey
http://g.co/maps/kansg

Yes, Newark is obviously closer to the west side of Manhattan than JFK is.  I thought you meant "midtown Manhattan" when you said "midtown Manhattan."  

http://g.co/maps/78zcc
http://g.co/maps/2aga3
Since when is Times Square "the west side of Manhattan"? Did you even look at the maps I posted?
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QuoteI'm sure people in Boston would scoff at my telling people I'm from Boston when I really live in Somerville. But the issue here is what someone like Red Berenson means when he says "New York", not what a New Yorker means when he says "New York". Christ, is this really that hard to understand? I think you people like picking nits because you have nothing better to do. I'm simply making the point that Red might say "New York" even if the game is at the Rock.

And I think anybody who would say "New York" when the game is scheduled to be in Newark, New Jersey, in the building where the New Jersey Devils play, is an idiot.
Yes, I have no doubt that you, as a New Yorker, would think so. That's why I'm not really that interested in what you think about what the term "New York" means in what someone not from New York says.
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