ECACs to Providence?

Started by Trotsky, August 25, 2011, 04:28:09 PM

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Trotsky

Could be.

QuoteIn addition, Bennett says that he will meet with officials from the Eastern Collegiate Athletic Conference on Aug. 30 to discuss moving the ECAC men's hockey tournament to Providence.

Even though the ECAC is under contract to hold its tournament in Atlantic City, N.J., through 2013, "we're going to see if we can convince them to come here this spring," Bennett said. The ECAC tourney drew disappointing crowds in Atlantic City last March.

dbilmes

That would be wonderful if the tournament would be held in Providence instead of Atlantic City. The Providence arena is no great shakes, but I'll take Providence over Atlantic City any time.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: TrotskyCould be.

QuoteIn addition, Bennett says that he will meet with officials from the Eastern Collegiate Athletic Conference on Aug. 30 to discuss moving the ECAC men's hockey tournament to Providence.

Even though the ECAC is under contract to hold its tournament in Atlantic City, N.J., through 2013, "we're going to see if we can convince them to come here this spring," Bennett said. The ECAC tourney drew disappointing crowds in Atlantic City last March.

Well, the ECAC is pretty good at weaseling out of agreements about tournament sites (viz. Lake Placid, 2003).

Beeeej

Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: TrotskyCould be.

QuoteIn addition, Bennett says that he will meet with officials from the Eastern Collegiate Athletic Conference on Aug. 30 to discuss moving the ECAC men's hockey tournament to Providence.

Even though the ECAC is under contract to hold its tournament in Atlantic City, N.J., through 2013, "we're going to see if we can convince them to come here this spring," Bennett said. The ECAC tourney drew disappointing crowds in Atlantic City last March.

Well, the ECAC is pretty good at weaseling out of agreements about tournament sites (viz. Lake Placid, 2003).

That was a handshake deal to renew for more than one year, which (sadly for Lake Placid) has no legally binding effect since it wasn't in writing (see the Statute of Frauds); I have to assume the current one is in writing.  Not to say the ECAC couldn't find a way out of it, or that they're not weaselly, I'm just sayin'.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

billhoward

Atlantic City overestimated how much gambling would be done by Cornell undergrads and alumni, the Yale fans who showed up Saturday at gametime, and the handful from Dartmouth and someplace else (oh, right, it was Colgate that got chewed up by Yale Friday night). It could be by mutual agreement since A.C. probably doesn't want the ECAC there anymore either although the hotels are at least selling a little lodging and the place didn't look overcrowded either night.  

Providence is all the hassles of getting to Boston (360 miles from Ithaca, 400 from the north country) without the fun of actually being in Boston. This sounds like a short-term cooling off period ordered by the marriage counselor until Albany and the ECAC decided to move in together again. Albany or Lake Placid is where it belongs.

Al DeFlorio

Posted by ugarte, September 29, 2009:  "Providence is a good call. Maybe in four years the ECAC should contact the Dunk."  Better early than never.
Al DeFlorio '65

munchkin

Providence is easy to get to for those without a car (assuming the journey doesn't start in Ithaca). That's definitely a plus.  Commuter rail from Boston is a wonderful thing, especially since the station dumps you almost within sight of the arena.

RichH

Well, finally some sense has returned after all the dollar bills stopped talking.

Albany & Lake Placid is where it belongs. We've argued here about which one we all prefer without consensus for 10 years now, but that's our top 2 (Boston excluded).  Foregoing all former sites (including Boston), it comes down to Providence, Hartford, Bridgeport, Worcester, and Springfield as the only sites to me that make sense. (Full Disclosure, I live in Hartford, and thus know much more about it than the others...probably influencing the ranks)

Geography: Springfield, Hartford, Bridgeport, Worcester, Providence
Public Transport Accessibility: Bridgeport, Providence, Hartford, Worcester, Springfield
Arena appropriateness*: Bridgeport, Providence, Worcester, Springfield, Hartford
Area surrounding arena: Providence, Hartford, Springfield, Worcester, Bridgeport
"Things to Do" Factor: Providence, Hartford, Springfield, Worcester, Bridgeport
Tournament Hosting Experience: Providence, Hartford, Others tied

Personal Preference: Providence, Hartford, Worcester, Bridgeport, Springfield

*Judging by seating capacity, concessions, & "feel." I've never been to Springfield's arena, nor seen the Dunk since the renovation.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: RichHWell, finally some sense has returned after all the dollar bills stopped talking.

Albany & Lake Placid is where it belongs. We've argued here about which one we all prefer without consensus for 10 years now, but that's our top 2 (Boston excluded).  Foregoing all former sites (including Boston), it comes down to Providence, Hartford, Bridgeport, Worcester, and Springfield as the only sites to me that make sense.

Aren't there sensible options in New York State as well, like Glens Falls and maybe Syracuse?

redice

Syracuse?

Maybe after they build a new arena....As a long-term ECAC Hockey fan, I would not be very proud of our signature event of the season being at the old Syracuse War Memorial Arena (or whatever they call it today)...

I guess, along with the move from AC, we can hope that the War Memorial collapsed during the earthquake and will require replacement...
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

RichH

Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: RichHWell, finally some sense has returned after all the dollar bills stopped talking.

Albany & Lake Placid is where it belongs. We've argued here about which one we all prefer without consensus for 10 years now, but that's our top 2 (Boston excluded).  Foregoing all former sites (including Boston), it comes down to Providence, Hartford, Bridgeport, Worcester, and Springfield as the only sites to me that make sense.

Aren't there sensible options in New York State as well, like Glens Falls and maybe Syracuse?

Thought of Glens Falls, but if you're going to do it there, just make it Albany or Lake Placid since both of those places would want the ECAC back.

And Syracuse, really? I guess you've killed that part of your brain that remembers games at that venue during the Syracuse Hockey Invitational Tournament.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: RichHWell, finally some sense has returned after all the dollar bills stopped talking.

Albany & Lake Placid is where it belongs. We've argued here about which one we all prefer without consensus for 10 years now, but that's our top 2 (Boston excluded).  Foregoing all former sites (including Boston), it comes down to Providence, Hartford, Bridgeport, Worcester, and Springfield as the only sites to me that make sense.

Aren't there sensible options in New York State as well, like Glens Falls and maybe Syracuse?

Thought of Glens Falls, but if you're going to do it there, just make it Albany or Lake Placid since both of those places would want the ECAC back.

And Syracuse, really? I guess you've killed that part of your brain that remembers games at that venue during the Syracuse Hockey Invitational Tournament.

That's one of the reasons for the "maybe".  (It's also a little far west, although it is a relatively easy drive for basically all of the NY schools.)  If we could somehow exchange the OnCenter for TECO/Germain/Everblades Arena, we could have a fun tournament.  Although come to think of it, Atlantic City is only marginally less crazy as an ECAC tournament venue than Estero...

Trotsky

Quote from: jtwcornell91If we could somehow exchange the OnCenter for TECO/Germain/Everblades Arena, we could have a fun tournament.  Although come to think of it, Atlantic City is only marginally less crazy as an ECAC tournament venue than Estero...
Think big.


French Rage

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jtwcornell91If we could somehow exchange the OnCenter for TECO/Germain/Everblades Arena, we could have a fun tournament.  Although come to think of it, Atlantic City is only marginally less crazy as an ECAC tournament venue than Estero...
Think big.


As a west coaster I'm cool with this!
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

billhoward

Geography? The center of the ECAC passes through Albany. Glens Falls is Albany without the Big City flavor. An event in Springfield woudl have everyone driving to Northampton/Amherst miles away during the day Saturday to avoid boredom. Syracuse would set up howls from every team other than Cornell, Colgate, St Lawrence and Clarkson. And maybe Union and RPI. So that's half the league right there. Isn't the Syracuse War Memorial about as old as Lynah but w/o the charm?

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Albany it is: Perimeters of ECAC with lines matching each team with others.