Garman is gone (from the hockey program)

[Scersk '97]

Or is he some kind of genius and will get his degree in only three years?

Didn't Jordan Kary just do this?

The last time we had a situation like this we accelerated the schedule of a future goalie.  The result was The Ballad of Eddie Skazyk.

I kind of hope this turns out a little better.

I thought McKee had deferred matriculation but then changed when LeNeveu left.

That's what I remember too.

You two may be right. But some of us remember the Skazyk situation a little more clearly because that didn't turn out quite as well.  1993... *cringe*.

Or, you could choose to remember this.

[Rita]

Or is he some kind of genius and will get his degree in only three years?

Didn't Jordan Kary just do this?

The last time we had a situation like this we accelerated the schedule of a future goalie.  The result was The Ballad of Eddie Skazyk.

I kind of hope this turns out a little better.

I thought McKee had deferred matriculation but then changed when LeNeveu left.

That's what I remember too.

You two may be right. But some of us remember the Skazyk situation a little more clearly because that didn't turn out quite as well.  1993... *cringe*.

Or, you could choose to remember this.

I'm not very good at math, but from the box below, I counted 2 Harvard goals, not 3. Was it 5-3 or 5-2? Just curious.

   Harvard    1 2 0 - 3

   Cornell    2 2 1 - 5

   

   Period    1

   03:58    Cor       Matt Cooney (Brad Chartrand, Jeff Burgoyne)

   04:15    Hvd       Konik (Holmes, Oberman)

   11:29    Cor    sh    P.C. Drouin (Vinnie Auger)

   

   Period    2

   01:44    Cor    sh    Brad Chartrand (Bill Holowatiuk)

   06:29    Hvd       Craigen (Swenson)

   12:14    Cor       Brad Chartrand (unassisted)

   

   Period    3

   02:43    Cor       Brad Chartrand (Matt Cooney, Jamie Papp)

[KeithK]

Harvard scored a power play goal late in the second:
   

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H Bent (Nielsen, Storey), 14:13  PPG 3-4


Source:
http://www.elynah.com/news/PastYears/Box96/Harvbox.1111

[jkahn]

For what it's worth, and I don't know how much, Kanji was the Toronto Globe and Mail's all secondary school first team goalie his senior year at Upper Canada College.  It may not be the highest level of play for those entering Division I, but it is the school that gave us Colin Greening and, if I remember correctly, Bruce Pattison '69.

[ugarte]

Or is he some kind of genius and will get his degree in only three years?

Didn't Jordan Kary just do this?

The last time we had a situation like this we accelerated the schedule of a future goalie.  The result was The Ballad of Eddie Skazyk.

I kind of hope this turns out a little better.

I thought McKee had deferred matriculation but then changed when LeNeveu left.

That's what I remember too.

You two may be right. But some of us remember the Skazyk situation a little more clearly because that didn't turn out quite as well.  1993... *cringe*.

Think about it this way: if Skazyk didn't come early Cornell wouldn't have had a better goalie situation that year.

[RatushnyFan]

You two may be right. But some of us remember the Skazyk situation a little more clearly because that didn't turn out quite as well.  1993... *cringe*.

The program can't be held responsible for Duffus being a dufus.  

[I kid, I kid...]

[RichH]

Or is he some kind of genius and will get his degree in only three years?

Didn't Jordan Kary just do this?

The last time we had a situation like this we accelerated the schedule of a future goalie.  The result was The Ballad of Eddie Skazyk.

I kind of hope this turns out a little better.

I thought McKee had deferred matriculation but then changed when LeNeveu left.

That's what I remember too.

You two may be right. But some of us remember the Skazyk situation a little more clearly because that didn't turn out quite as well.  1993... *cringe*.

Except Andy Bandurski got the large majority of the starts in '92-'93. Skazyk didn't become the primary starter until '94-'95. Elliott took it from him right around Jan. 1996.

Wasn't Ian Burt trucked in as a "January freshman" because of an injury to Jason Elliott? That was kind of an emergency situation.

[KeithK]

Wasn't Ian Burt trucked in as a "January freshman" because of an injury to Jason Elliott? That was kind of an emergency situation.

No, Burt was added because Jean Marc Pelletier went pro after his sophomore season.  What you're remembering is the fact that he didn't play at all until Elliott was hurt late in the '98 season.

[KeithK]

Or is he some kind of genius and will get his degree in only three years?

Didn't Jordan Kary just do this?

The last time we had a situation like this we accelerated the schedule of a future goalie.  The result was The Ballad of Eddie Skazyk.

I kind of hope this turns out a little better.

I thought McKee had deferred matriculation but then changed when LeNeveu left.

That's what I remember too.

You two may be right. But some of us remember the Skazyk situation a little more clearly because that didn't turn out quite as well.  1993... *cringe*.

Except Andy Bandurski got the large majority of the starts in '92-'93. Skazyk didn't become the primary starter until '94-'95. Elliott took it from him right around Jan. 1996.

I'm not blaming 1993 on Eddie Skazyk.  I'm just saying some of us remember it very well because it was so memorable. In a less than good way.

[ugarte]

Wasn't Ian Burt trucked in as a "January freshman" because of an injury to Jason Elliott? That was kind of an emergency situation.

No, Burt was added because Jean Marc Pelletier went pro after his sophomore season.  What you're remembering is the fact that he didn't play at all until Elliott was hurt late in the '98 season.

Wasn't Burt's first action in relief during a blowout loss at Yale? I was at that game and I'm pretty sure I remember him standing in the crease, nervous and unsteady, looking like a newborn foal.

[KeithK]

Wasn't Ian Burt trucked in as a "January freshman" because of an injury to Jason Elliott? That was kind of an emergency situation.

No, Burt was added because Jean Marc Pelletier went pro after his sophomore season.  What you're remembering is the fact that he didn't play at all until Elliott was hurt late in the '98 season.

Wasn't Burt's first action in relief during a blowout loss at Yale? I was at that game and I'm pretty sure I remember him standing in the crease, nervous and unsteady, looking like a newborn foal.

Blowout loss at Yale? There was no game in New Haven that year.

Burt played the second half of the game that didn't happen and gave up 7 goals on 25 shots:
http://www.elynah.com/news/PastYears/Box98/yale.0206
That was the only non-exhibition action he saw that season until the game at Harvard when Elliott was hurt.

[ugarte]

Wasn't Ian Burt trucked in as a "January freshman" because of an injury to Jason Elliott? That was kind of an emergency situation.

No, Burt was added because Jean Marc Pelletier went pro after his sophomore season.  What you're remembering is the fact that he didn't play at all until Elliott was hurt late in the '98 season.

Wasn't Burt's first action in relief during a blowout loss at Yale? I was at that game and I'm pretty sure I remember him standing in the crease, nervous and unsteady, looking like a newborn foal.

Blowout loss at Yale? There was no game in New Haven that year.

Burt played the second half of the game that didn't happen and gave up 7 goals on 18 shots:
http://www.elynah.com/news/PastYears/Box98/yale.0206
That was the only non-exhibition action he saw that season until the game at Harvard when Elliott was hurt.

FYP. That boxscore is exactly as ugly as I remember it.

NB: FYP apparently means "F'd Your Post"; and this correction was a mistake.

[KeithK]

It was 25 shots - the line next to each goalie is saves, not shots. But ugly either way.

[jtwcornell91]

Wasn't Ian Burt trucked in as a "January freshman" because of an injury to Jason Elliott? That was kind of an emergency situation.

No, Burt was added because Jean Marc Pelletier went pro after his sophomore season.  What you're remembering is the fact that he didn't play at all until Elliott was hurt late in the '98 season.

Wasn't Burt's first action in relief during a blowout loss at Yale? I was at that game and I'm pretty sure I remember him standing in the crease, nervous and unsteady, looking like a newborn foal.

Blowout loss at Yale? There was no game in New Haven that year.

Burt played the second half of the game that didn't happen and gave up 7 goals on 25 shots:
http://www.elynah.com/news/PastYears/Box98/yale.0206
That was the only non-exhibition action he saw that season until the game at Harvard when Elliott was hurt.

IIRC, he finished that season with the relief win at Lynah East followed by six straight one-goal losses (including on the last night of the RS when SLU pulled their goalie in overtime). ::help::

[Jim Hyla]

Brandon Thomas's IJ article on Garman's leaving. Some interesting quotes:

Garman told the coaching staff of his decision after the season ended, coach Mike Schafer said, catching the program by surprise.

"It was at the season-ending meeting that Mike expressed that he was only a few credits short of graduating," Schafer said. "He talked with his family and felt that it was an opportunity to move on."

Ivy League rules stipulate that student-athletes are not eligible to compete as graduate students.

Garman becomes the second Cornell player to leave despite having an optional year of eligibility remaining to play next season. Forward Jordan Kary is the other, though his decision was known throughout the season.

"It caught us off guard," Schafer said of Garman's decision. "Jordan Kary let us know in the fall. So it's just one of those situations that, for us as a program, it's really left us behind the eight-ball to find another goaltender."

Seems like Garman could have told them sooner about how close to graduating he was, or the staff should be following their students more closely. I suspect, as I'm assuming he had good grades, that they don't worry about students like him, focusing on the borderline ones. But what are his options? If he only needs a few credits, can a student stay in school forever, even if he has more than enough credits? I know I had more than enough and no one said anything, so I decided to make my last semester easy and take the minimum. But does anyone know the rules about how long you can stay, once you've satisfied all criteria?