[Wrestling] EIWA Championships

Started by ugarte, March 05, 2011, 05:29:19 PM

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Trotsky

So seeding is qualitative, not driven by something like ELO?

ugarte

Quote from: TrotskySo seeding is qualitative, not driven by something like ELO?
Quote from: 2010 NCAA Wrestling HandbookSeeding
When compiling a student-athlete's won-lost record for seeding purposes, all
matches against student-athletes who compete on intercollegiate teams at two and fouryear,
degree-granting institutions where NCAA rules are followed shall be counted,
including open or unattached competition.

Championships
The Division I Wrestling Committee will determine the seeds for each weight class
in the championships. At no time will lobbying or supplying of additional materials be
allowed. Coaches attempting to lobby or supply additional materials may be cited for
misconduct.

A selected representative from each qualifying tournament is responsible for
submitting the list of qualifiers and updated individual season record forms for all
qualifiers to be considered for seeding. This must be completed online via the NWCA
Web site at www.nwcaonline.com/nwcaonline/default.aspx immediately after the
respective qualifying tournament. In addition, each qualifying tournament director
must submit to Amber Feldman (Randy L. Buhr's assistant) at the NCAA national
office by facsimile transmission (317/917-6210), immediately after the respective
qualifying tournament, one copy of the tournament results for each weight class.
Final seedings and pairings are made by the Division I Wrestling Committee. Pairing
sheets will tentatively be distributed via an Internet announcement after 6 p.m. Eastern
time Monday, March 15. Please note there is a possibility the pairings may be released
as early as Thursday, March 11. These pairings are not to be released by any other
media outlet before the official NCAA announcement.
They look at record and SOS, though I'm not sure how they weight the factors.

Grey, for example, is undefeated but was injured most of the season, has only ~10 matches to his credit and beat mostly undistinguished competition (with the exception of #10 seed Peterkin (Penn)).

Trotsky

Thanks.  Here is the description of the committee's duties.

One member this year is a long-time head coach at Michigan State.  I guess it is like the selection committees for other NCAA sports: a few leading lights, coaches, ADs representing the range of regions / conferences.

gjk22

Personally, I don't think the seeding has that big of an impact. It evens out in a double elimination competition. Plus sometimes a lower seed can be an advantage, based on match ups.

nshapiro

Is tournament really double elimination?? Wrestlebacks (consolation bracket) used to only get you to 3rd place.
When Section D was the place to be

ugarte

Quote from: nshapiroIs tournament really double elimination?? Wrestlebacks (consolation bracket) used to only get you to 3rd place.
nothing has changed; it is double elimination for everything except the championship match.

gjk22

All-American is top 8, but it also has additional significance because once you make the top 8, the double elimination no longer applies. The guys in the 5th/6th and 7th/8th matches have already lost twice, but they get one more match. For this reason, it provides more opportunities for picking up valuable team points.

ugarte

Quote from: gjk22All-American is top 8, but it also has additional significance because once you make the top 8, the double elimination no longer applies. The guys in the 5th/6th and 7th/8th matches have already lost twice, but they get one more match. For this reason, it provides more opportunities for picking up valuable team points.
Also this. Thanks for the catch.