Cornell 4 - SLU 3 (ot)

[upprdeck]

what could have turned out to be a crushing loss, ends up with a thrilling win..Nice to see Cornell really control both games , deserved 2 wins and somehow got both..

[ugarte]

What a day. 4 point weekend, hoops gets off the schneid, wrestling shows the metropolitan area why they are the #1 team in the country.

[ajh258]

what could have turned out to be a crushing loss, ends up with a thrilling win..Nice to see Cornell really control both games , deserved 2 wins and somehow got both..

Totally! We worked hard, out shot our opponents, and controlled the puck most of the games.

Let's hope we carry this momentum to the capital district next weekend.

[BigRedHockeyFan]

Highlights are here:

http://www.ecachockey.com/men/video/2010-11/20110502_Cornell_StLawrence-desktop.flv

Cornell was looking pretty bad at the end of the second period, taking lots of penalties.  That led to a SLU 5x3 goal early in the 3rd period.  Then a defensive lapse made it 3-1 SLU.  However, the team showed a lot of character in making a big comeback.  M and J Devin linked up for a deflected goal to tie up the game with less than 15 seconds left.  J also deflected an M Devin shot the night before for a goal against Clarkson.  M. Devin seems to have tamed his shot; his freshman year, it looked like he was more interested in breaking the glass than he was in scoring goals.  Miller's OT PP goal came after a lot of hard work.  

Great 4 point weekend.

[BigRedHockeyFan]

Clarkson highlights are here:

http://www.ecachockey.com/men/video/2010-11/20110402_Cornell_Clarkson-desktop.flv

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

My thoughts:  We certainly looked a lot more poised in our own defensive end both nights compared to the game I saw earlier at Princeton.  That said, they still had a tendency to try to poke check rather than take the man on defense.  That showed on a couple of the goals where they let a guy come out of the corner, skate past a couple of players and right across the goal mouth and pop it in.  I was surprised at how little they hit - except for when they took bad 5 minute majors.
 
I know Schafer's system is based on possession and defense, but there were so many times when we had the puck behind their goal line and we just held onto it.  We didn't get anybody in front of the net, and didn't move the puck out to the point.  It got frustrating.

But it was a great comeback, and you can't beat a 4 point weekend.  I'll take it.  Especially since it'll take a lot to go better than 0.500 for the rest of the season.

[WillCMJr]

Anyone know why Nicholls was out the 3rd period?  Noticed him at the end of the rink in a suit.  His penalty was only a 5min.

[Tom Lento]

Anyone know why Nicholls was out the 3rd period?  Noticed him at the end of the rink in a suit.  His penalty was only a 5min.

In the NCAA I believe 5 minute majors come with an automatic game misconduct or game disqualification, depending on the type and severity of the penalty. I don't know if Nicholls got a misconduct or a DQ (I seem to remember it being a misconduct), but either way he'd be out for the remainder of the SLU game.

[redice]

Anyone know why Nicholls was out the 3rd period?  Noticed him at the end of the rink in a suit.  His penalty was only a 5min.

In the NCAA I believe 5 minute majors come with an automatic game misconduct or game disqualification, depending on the type and severity of the penalty. I don't know if Nicholls got a misconduct or a DQ (I seem to remember it being a misconduct), but either way he'd be out for the remainder of the SLU game.

I'm not aware that game misconducts or game DQ's are automatic....But, they did announce that he got a 5 minute major and a game misconduct...Does anyone else know if it's automatic?

[Tom Lento]

Anyone know why Nicholls was out the 3rd period?  Noticed him at the end of the rink in a suit.  His penalty was only a 5min.

In the NCAA I believe 5 minute majors come with an automatic game misconduct or game disqualification, depending on the type and severity of the penalty. I don't know if Nicholls got a misconduct or a DQ (I seem to remember it being a misconduct), but either way he'd be out for the remainder of the SLU game.

I'm not aware that game misconducts or game DQ's are automatic....But, they did announce that he got a 5 minute major and a game misconduct...Does anyone else know if it's automatic?

My fuzzy memory was that strictly speaking the misconduct is not automatic, but there were no situations where the official could call a major without a misconduct. My fuzzy memory was clearly incorrect:

Boarding
SECTION 3. A player shall not body check, cross-check, elbow, charge or
trip an opponent  from the front or side in such a manner that causes the
opponent to be thrown violently into the boards (see 6-23).  
PENALTY—Minor or major at the discretion of the referee, based on
degree of violence of the impact with the boards. A game
misconduct may be assessed at the discretion of the referee.


I suppose I've just never seen a major penalty called in college without a misconduct attached to it, or at least if I saw it I didn't remember it. It also looks like you can't get a DQ for a simple boarding penalty - they'd have to call intent to injure or something.

[ACM]

Anyone know why Nicholls was out the 3rd period?  Noticed him at the end of the rink in a suit.  His penalty was only a 5min.

In the NCAA I believe 5 minute majors come with an automatic game misconduct or game disqualification, depending on the type and severity of the penalty. I don't know if Nicholls got a misconduct or a DQ (I seem to remember it being a misconduct), but either way he'd be out for the remainder of the SLU game.

I'm not aware that game misconducts or game DQ's are automatic....But, they did announce that he got a 5 minute major and a game misconduct...Does anyone else know if it's automatic?

"They" did?

Nicholls got a major for boarding. Period. No misconduct, no game misconduct, no disqualification. Just a major for boarding.

So why did he not come out for the third period? Either he was injured, or ...

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Anyone know why Nicholls was out the 3rd period?  Noticed him at the end of the rink in a suit.  His penalty was only a 5min.

In the NCAA I believe 5 minute majors come with an automatic game misconduct or game disqualification, depending on the type and severity of the penalty. I don't know if Nicholls got a misconduct or a DQ (I seem to remember it being a misconduct), but either way he'd be out for the remainder of the SLU game.

I'm not aware that game misconducts or game DQ's are automatic....But, they did announce that he got a 5 minute major and a game misconduct...Does anyone else know if it's automatic?

"They" did?

Nicholls got a major for boarding. Period. No misconduct, no game misconduct, no disqualification. Just a major for boarding.

So why did he not come out for the third period? Either he was injured, or ...

I'm pretty sure he got a misconduct.  I remember confirming it with Beeeej that it wasn't a DQ, and him saying that some refs are fond of the DQ, but Feola is less prone to DQ and more likely to just call a misconduct.  

And at this point, I'd be surprised if a 5 minute major didn't come with a misconduct.  In fact I think of it as "5 and game" rather than a 5 minute major.

[jtwcornell91]

Anyone know why Nicholls was out the 3rd period?  Noticed him at the end of the rink in a suit.  His penalty was only a 5min.

In the NCAA I believe 5 minute majors come with an automatic game misconduct or game disqualification, depending on the type and severity of the penalty. I don't know if Nicholls got a misconduct or a DQ (I seem to remember it being a misconduct), but either way he'd be out for the remainder of the SLU game.

I'm not aware that game misconducts or game DQ's are automatic....But, they did announce that he got a 5 minute major and a game misconduct...Does anyone else know if it's automatic?

"They" did?

Nicholls got a major for boarding. Period. No misconduct, no game misconduct, no disqualification. Just a major for boarding.

So why did he not come out for the third period? Either he was injured, or ...

I'm pretty sure he got a misconduct.  I remember confirming it with Beeeej that it wasn't a DQ, and him saying that some refs are fond of the DQ, but Feola is less prone to DQ and more likely to just call a misconduct.  

And at this point, I'd be surprised if a 5 minute major didn't come with a misconduct.  In fact I think of it as "5 and game" rather than a 5 minute major.

The box score indicates just a major and nothing else:

    STL-4 Bobby Torney (2-Cross-Checking) COR 0x3    14:16 
    STL-5 Matt Raley (2-Roughing)    17:03 
    COR-2 Dan Nicholls (5-Boarding) STL 1x2    17:03 
    COR-3 Armand de Swardt (2-Roughing)    17:03 
 STL     1    -    1     6x5 PP        Kyle Flanagan (10) (Nick Pitsikoulis, Justin Baker)    18:09 

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Anyone know why Nicholls was out the 3rd period?  Noticed him at the end of the rink in a suit.  His penalty was only a 5min.

In the NCAA I believe 5 minute majors come with an automatic game misconduct or game disqualification, depending on the type and severity of the penalty. I don't know if Nicholls got a misconduct or a DQ (I seem to remember it being a misconduct), but either way he'd be out for the remainder of the SLU game.

I'm not aware that game misconducts or game DQ's are automatic....But, they did announce that he got a 5 minute major and a game misconduct...Does anyone else know if it's automatic?

"They" did?

Nicholls got a major for boarding. Period. No misconduct, no game misconduct, no disqualification. Just a major for boarding.

So why did he not come out for the third period? Either he was injured, or ...

I'm pretty sure he got a misconduct.  I remember confirming it with Beeeej that it wasn't a DQ, and him saying that some refs are fond of the DQ, but Feola is less prone to DQ and more likely to just call a misconduct.  

And at this point, I'd be surprised if a 5 minute major didn't come with a misconduct.  In fact I think of it as "5 and game" rather than a 5 minute major.

The box score indicates just a major and nothing else:

    STL-4 Bobby Torney (2-Cross-Checking) COR 0x3    14:16 
    STL-5 Matt Raley (2-Roughing)    17:03 
    COR-2 Dan Nicholls (5-Boarding) STL 1x2    17:03 
    COR-3 Armand de Swardt (2-Roughing)    17:03 
 STL     1    -    1     6x5 PP        Kyle Flanagan (10) (Nick Pitsikoulis, Justin Baker)    18:09 

Well, all I can say is he originally went to the box.  There was a discussion with both benches, then the ref skated up and removed him.  Dan then skated off and was replaced in the box.  I forget who served the 5:00 for him.  

They may not have it in the box score, but that seems like an ejection to me.

[Jim Hyla]

Anyone know why Nicholls was out the 3rd period?  Noticed him at the end of the rink in a suit.  His penalty was only a 5min.

In the NCAA I believe 5 minute majors come with an automatic game misconduct or game disqualification, depending on the type and severity of the penalty. I don't know if Nicholls got a misconduct or a DQ (I seem to remember it being a misconduct), but either way he'd be out for the remainder of the SLU game.

I'm not aware that game misconducts or game DQ's are automatic....But, they did announce that he got a 5 minute major and a game misconduct...Does anyone else know if it's automatic?

"They" did?

Nicholls got a major for boarding. Period. No misconduct, no game misconduct, no disqualification. Just a major for boarding.

So why did he not come out for the third period? Either he was injured, or ...

I'm pretty sure he got a misconduct.  I remember confirming it with Beeeej that it wasn't a DQ, and him saying that some refs are fond of the DQ, but Feola is less prone to DQ and more likely to just call a misconduct.  

And at this point, I'd be surprised if a 5 minute major didn't come with a misconduct.  In fact I think of it as "5 and game" rather than a 5 minute major.

Jeff, before you get too much further into this, it was announced as a 5 min major only. I remember thinking to myself that no other was called. I'm glad ACM confirmed that, especially since HE IS THE RINK ANNOUNCER.

So I'm also confused as to why he wasn't there. Might Coach have given him his own penalty?