Alumni in the Pros - February 2011

Started by Jim Hyla, February 01, 2011, 07:52:47 AM

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Quote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?

For the year we're up to 8.  Not sure about simultaneity.

Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR.  Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue.  I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule.  Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).

I dunno, what do others think?  What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.

Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?

IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
So what about if you're injured?

I was addressing when you start being an NHL player. What you're asking concerns how you stop being an NHL player, which is a different question in my mind. But just to cover all the basis... if you were going to dress for your first NHL game, but got injured in the morning practice and had to sit out the game, then sadly, I would say you haven't yet been in the NHL. Very close, but not quite there.

This brings up the question of Jason Elliott's Stanley Cup...
I know he got to carry it but I'm pretty sure his name wasn't engraved on the plate. I think the rule there is that you have to skate. I'm pretty sure the #2 goalie didn't get his name on the cup either.
Generally, to get your name on the Stanley Cup as a player, you have to play 41 games with the team during the regular season, or one game during the Stanley Cup Finals.  I believe in this context "play in" means "dress for"; for example, this close-up view of the engraving for the 2000-01 Colorado Avalanche includes David Aebischer (ninth row, far left), who played 26 games as Patrick Roy's backup but presumably was dressed and on the bench for significantly more than the 41-game threshold.  (Aebischer did play in one game in the playoffs, but not in the finals.)  I looked for Elliott's name last time I saw the Cup and it is not engraved.
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Trotsky

Quote from: Willy '06In baseball it's really the 25-man roster. You can be on the 40-man roster and never get out of the minor leagues.
Well, I was thinking the 40-man because of IR, but your point is taken.

kingpin248

Moulson gets his 27th of the year against the Maple Leafs; he collected a bouncing puck from the point and easily put it into an open net.
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jeff '84

Quote from: kingpin248Moulson gets his 27th of the year against the Maple Leafs; he collected a bouncing puck from the point and easily put it into an open net.

They are going to interview him again between periods, coming up shortly... msg +

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Quote from: scoop85Moulson now tied for 9th in goal scoring for the season (the list doesn't reflect tonight's goal)

I hope he cools off for Thursday night, and then heats up again.  ::whistle::

Ronald '09

Greening got his first NHL point, an assist on Bobby Butler's first period goal.

EDIT: Finished with one assist, +2, 14:03 of ice time, including 1:49 on the powerplay and 6 seconds on the penalty kill.

Rita

Quote from: Ronald '09Greening got his first NHL point, an assist on Bobby Butler's first period goal.

EDIT: Finished with one assist, +2, 14:03 of ice time, including 1:49 on the powerplay and 6 seconds on the penalty kill.

Here is the link for the video of Colin's assist. Colin did a very nice job holding onto to the puck until he could make a nice pass to Butler.

EDIT: The Florida Panthers TV broadcast crew interviewed Colin during the second intermission. A very good interview; Colin is so well-spoken. He mentioned how this call-up is easier than his first in that several guys on the team now were teammates of his in Binghamton. He said that rapport he has with these guys makes it easier.

I'll look tomorrow to see if the interview gets posted on the panther website.

Rita

According to the TSN announcers, Ryan O'Byrne got cut by an Edmonton skate (Taylor Hall's) in the first period of tonight's game and he has yet to return. I didn't see the play and I'm not sure how serious it is.

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Quote from: RitaAccording to the TSN announcers, Ryan O'Byrne got cut by an Edmonton skate (Taylor Hall's) in the first period of tonight's game and he has yet to return. I didn't see the play and I'm not sure how serious it is.

Ouch... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcEyQ59sIp0
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Quote from: RitaAccording to the TSN announcers, Ryan O'Byrne got cut by an Edmonton skate (Taylor Hall's) in the first period of tonight's game and he has yet to return. I didn't see the play and I'm not sure how serious it is.

Ouch... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcEyQ59sIp0

O'Byrne Update
"Avalanche defenseman Ryan O'Byrne wasn't at practice Thursday, one day after suffering a facial laceration in Colorado's game against Edmonton.

The blueliner is expected to miss between seven and ten days due to the injury, which required approximately 100 stitches to be administered at a local hospital.

About four minutes into Wednesday's contest, O'Byrne was behind Colorado's net when the skate of Edmonton rookie Taylor Hall shot up and caught him in the cheek. Although bleeding profusely, O'Byrne finished his shift before exiting the game and immediately making his way to the locker room."


Ouch, double Ouch, and triple Ouch!

Rita

If you are bored and need something to do especially now that Robb has so nicely worked out Cornell's playoff seeding possibilities, go to the Ottawa Senators' home page and vote for Colin.

On the lower right side of the page is a poll for "which Sens prospect are you most excited about". Colin is at 12% of the vote. Maybe if he scores 2 goals in Buffalo he can get to Bobby Butler's level :-P.

Jim Hyla

Sort of Alumni: Last Sat Ben Scrivens parents sat next to us at the game. By the way they were talking it sounded like Ben would have come to senior night if he hadn't gotten called up. At least they were lamenting that he had to called on senior night. But the real neat thing was seeing where he got his enthusiasm. Almost the first thing his father said was, "Do you guys know the cheers?". They then went on to cheer at every opportunity, Dartmouth penalties, waving their hands, cheering, counting and yelling sieve and it's all your fault after goals, for some. I was amazed. Very easy to talk to them, but I'm sure that's why Ben's helmet was painted as it was.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

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Quote from: RitaIf you are bored and need something to do especially now that Robb has so nicely worked out Cornell's playoff seeding possibilities, go to the Ottawa Senators' home page and vote for Colin.

On the lower right side of the page is a poll for "which Sens prospect are you most excited about". Colin is at 12% of the vote. Maybe if he scores 2 goals in Buffalo he can get to Bobby Butler's level :-P.

Can't find it anymore. Do you have a direct link?