Alumni in the Pros - February 2011

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Quote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?

For the year we're up to 8.  Not sure about simultaneity.

Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR.  Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue.  I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule.  Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).

I dunno, what do others think?  What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.

Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

ftyuv

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Quote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?

For the year we're up to 8.  Not sure about simultaneity.

Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR.  Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue.  I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule.  Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).

I dunno, what do others think?  What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.

Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?

IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?

For the year we're up to 8.  Not sure about simultaneity.

Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR.  Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue.  I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule.  Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).

I dunno, what do others think?  What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.

Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?

IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
So what about if you're injured?
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

ftyuv

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Quote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?

For the year we're up to 8.  Not sure about simultaneity.

Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR.  Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue.  I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule.  Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).

I dunno, what do others think?  What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.

Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?

IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
So what about if you're injured?

I was addressing when you start being an NHL player. What you're asking concerns how you stop being an NHL player, which is a different question in my mind. But just to cover all the basis... if you were going to dress for your first NHL game, but got injured in the morning practice and had to sit out the game, then sadly, I would say you haven't yet been in the NHL. Very close, but not quite there.

Jordan 04


Jim Hyla

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Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?

For the year we're up to 8.  Not sure about simultaneity.

Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR.  Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue.  I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule.  Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).

I dunno, what do others think?  What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.

Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?

IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
So what about if you're injured?

I was addressing when you start being an NHL player. What you're asking concerns how you stop being an NHL player, which is a different question in my mind. But just to cover all the basis... if you were going to dress for your first NHL game, but got injured in the morning practice and had to sit out the game, then sadly, I would say you haven't yet been in the NHL. Very close, but not quite there.
Sorry, I didn't realize you were refering to starting, as this whole discussion got started with Bitz on IR.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

jeff '84

Quote from: Jordan 04#24 for Moulson.

Not to mention #25....

Beeeej

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Quote from: Jordan 04#24 for Moulson.

Not to mention #25....

And #26 with the ENG to seal the game, Moulson's second career NHL hat trick, and five goals in the last two games.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

jtwcornell91

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Quote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?

For the year we're up to 8.  Not sure about simultaneity.

Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR.  Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue.  I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule.  Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).

I dunno, what do others think?  What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.

Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?

IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
So what about if you're injured?

I was addressing when you start being an NHL player. What you're asking concerns how you stop being an NHL player, which is a different question in my mind. But just to cover all the basis... if you were going to dress for your first NHL game, but got injured in the morning practice and had to sit out the game, then sadly, I would say you haven't yet been in the NHL. Very close, but not quite there.

This brings up the question of Jason Elliott's Stanley Cup...

ebilmes

Greening is doing well in practice, at least:
QuoteOn Monday, during the team's skills competition, rookie Colin Greening also made a surprisingly good showing, setting a new team record in the fastest skater competition and challenging Matt Carkner for the team's hardest shot.

Greening, a 24-year-old forward from St. John's, N.L., who made his NHL debut on Feb. 1 and has played three career games, upstaged defenceman Erik Karlsson after Karlsson's lap of 13.700 seconds around the ice broke Antoine Vermette's old team record of 13.709. Greening went next and did it in 13.665 seconds.

"I thought Erik was going to get the that, for sure," Greening said. "When I saw I was next, I was just like, 'Don't get embarrassed."

Greening then fired a slapshot at 100.5 miles per hour, topped only by Carkner's 101.1 miles per hour. His performance earned the moniker of "Usain Bolt" from Spezza.

"He's the fastest man alive," Spezza quipped.

ugarte

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Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?

For the year we're up to 8.  Not sure about simultaneity.

Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR.  Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue.  I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule.  Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).

I dunno, what do others think?  What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.

Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?

IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
So what about if you're injured?

I was addressing when you start being an NHL player. What you're asking concerns how you stop being an NHL player, which is a different question in my mind. But just to cover all the basis... if you were going to dress for your first NHL game, but got injured in the morning practice and had to sit out the game, then sadly, I would say you haven't yet been in the NHL. Very close, but not quite there.

This brings up the question of Jason Elliott's Stanley Cup...
I know he got to carry it but I'm pretty sure his name wasn't engraved on the plate. I think the rule there is that you have to skate. I'm pretty sure the #2 goalie didn't get his name on the cup either.

scoop85

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Quote from: Jordan 04#24 for Moulson.

Not to mention #25....

And #26 with the ENG to seal the game, Moulson's second career NHL hat trick, and five goals in the last two games.

Too bad he's letting that new contract get to his head :-}

Willy '06

In baseball it's really the 25-man roster. You can be on the 40-man roster and never get out of the minor leagues.
ILR '06 - Now running websites to help college students and grads find entry level jobs and internships.

amerks127

Quote from: ebilmesGreening is doing well in practice, at least:
QuoteOn Monday, during the team's skills competition, rookie Colin Greening also made a surprisingly good showing, setting a new team record in the fastest skater competition and challenging Matt Carkner for the team's hardest shot.

Greening, a 24-year-old forward from St. John's, N.L., who made his NHL debut on Feb. 1 and has played three career games, upstaged defenceman Erik Karlsson after Karlsson's lap of 13.700 seconds around the ice broke Antoine Vermette's old team record of 13.709. Greening went next and did it in 13.665 seconds.

"I thought Erik was going to get the that, for sure," Greening said. "When I saw I was next, I was just like, 'Don't get embarrassed."

Greening then fired a slapshot at 100.5 miles per hour, topped only by Carkner's 101.1 miles per hour. His performance earned the moniker of "Usain Bolt" from Spezza.

"He's the fastest man alive," Spezza quipped.

Here is the Sens write up

http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=553672&cmpid=rss-brodie

and an interview with Colin about the skills competition

http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=1141&id=99120

via http://www.ecachockey.com/men/members/cornell/20112102_GreeningSkillsBlastSensWeb

hockeychick470

A friend in ATX sent me this email.  Nice event but I  thought it was interesting considering Sawada's been IR since 2/3.... unless I missed something?


(original email sent 2/21)

The Cornell Club of Austin would like to invite you and your guests to join your fellow alumni as we cheer on fellow Cornellian Raymond Sawada '08 and the Texas Stars as they take on the Houston Aeros on Saturday, March 5th at the Cedar Park Arena!

A quick bio: Raymond Sawada played all 4 years at Cornell (with 2 NCAA appearances) before being drafted in the 2nd round to the Dallas Stars organization. Last year, Ray and the Texas Stars made their incredible run to the Calder Cup finals. To top off his pro resume, he has played 5 regular games with the Dallas Stars, scoring a goal in his NHL debut!

Now for the event details:

To buy tickets, call: Rebekah Hurley @ 512-600-5011 or rhurley@texasstarshockey.com (see attached flyer).

You can purchase your tickets through the Stars representative and they will place them at the will-call booth under your name. Be sure to tell them you're with the Cornell Alumni group to get the quoted rate and be seated together.

There will be an early dinner around 4pm. The location is TBD and we'll get those details out to you as soon as they're finalized.

From there, we can leave our cars at the parking lot and carpool over to the Cedar Park Arena, arriving around 5:45PM where we will participate in the "Ride the Bench" activity where we will SIT ON THE BENCH while both teams warm up. (disclaimer) There will be minimal protection from flying pucks that come towards the bench so please keep that in mind! This activity is optional and is limited to 20 people.

The game itself starts at 7pm.

Keep in mind that each car costs $10 for parking so I highly encourage everyone to carpool. If you are not joining us for the pre-grame event, please note that there will be a lot of traffic getting to the Arena so the sooner you get to the arena, the better.

Please RSVP as soon as possible to Peter Wang at pw33@cornell.edu or call/text 713-302-3412 and cite whether you will be joining us for dinner and the pre-game activity. There are only 30 tickets and 20 spaces on the "Ride the Bench" event so first come, first serve.

Cornell has a proud hockey tradition, being ECAC 2010 champs with regular appearances to the NCAA tournament. Its great to see Cornell and such a talented hockey team as the Texas Stars come together right here in Austin! So come out and support your fellow Cornellian and the Stars!