Recruits

[Trotsky]

To Cornell according to Chris Heisenberg http://www.pointstreak.com/players/playerpage.html?playerid=4270422&seasonid=6106

A little more on Cimetta here.  He appears to hail from Sarnia, ON.

+104?  really?

[pfibiger]

To Cornell according to Chris Heisenberg http://www.pointstreak.com/players/playerpage.html?playerid=4270422&seasonid=6106

A little more on Cimetta here.  He appears to hail from Sarnia, ON.

+104?  really?

When you win games 15-2, it does great things for the +/-. He's also scoring half a goal per game, as a defenseman. That says something about the quality of competition, perhaps? He played a couple of years with Detroit Honeybaked, the powerhouse midget team. Not clear if he's 16 yet, he's certainly one of the earliest commits we've ever had (maybe Ben Thomson *grumblegrumble* was as young?)

[Trotsky]

To Cornell according to Chris Heisenberg http://www.pointstreak.com/players/playerpage.html?playerid=4270422&seasonid=6106

A little more on Cimetta here.  He appears to hail from Sarnia, ON.

+104?  really?

When you win games 15-2, it does great things for the +/-. He's also scoring half a goal per game, as a defenseman. That says something about the quality of competition, perhaps? He played a couple of years with Detroit Honeybaked, the powerhouse midget team. Not clear if he's 16 yet, he's certainly one of the earliest commits we've ever had (maybe Ben Thomson *grumblegrumble* was as young?)

He's listed as a '94 in some places and a '95 in others, so apparently everybody's confused.  Maybe he was raised by wolves.  

[billhoward]

I withdraw my comments, at least the part that says "every year for every team at every school sounds hopeful the spring before." People I talked to in Ithaca are really excited about the incoming class and Schafer apparently made comments to that effect to small groups of supporters the week of the Harvard/Dartmouth games.

[Trotsky]

I withdraw my comments, at least the part that says "every year for every team at every school sounds hopeful the spring before." People I talked to in Ithaca are really excited about the incoming class and Schafer apparently made comments to that effect to small groups of supporters the week of the Harvard/Dartmouth games.

One thing about having such a large incoming class: Cornell already feels like a young team, and they are going to get even younger.  Based on the rave previews of Hudon and Ryan the Big Red may still be an even more powerful team, particularly offensively, next year.  It certainly bodes very well for the future.

Also, young isn't necessarily "awkward."  Union's freshman class this season has been insane.

[CAS]

I believe Cornell's improved  financial aid is helping us attract top student athletes.

[Trotsky]

I believe Cornell's improved  financial aid is helping us attract top student athletes.

Hope so.  Yale and Princeton led the way and they have improved dramatically.  Small sample size of course -- we'll know in ten years whether those programs are going through random variation (past runs by Colgate, SLU, Dartmouth, even Brown) or are here to stay.

I heard again and again through the 90's that we were getting beaten to the puck on certain recruits solely over aid.  Maybe we've licked that problem.

[Jim Hyla]

I believe Cornell's improved  financial aid is helping us attract top student athletes.

Hope so.  Yale and Princeton led the way and they have improved dramatically.  Small sample size of course -- we'll know in ten years whether those programs are going through random variation (past runs by Colgate, SLU, Dartmouth, even Brown) or are here to stay.

I heard again and again through the 90's that we were getting beaten to the puck on certain recruits solely over aid.  Maybe we've licked that problem.

Except that I don't think they have fully decided how they are going to pay for it. The Athletic Department has to come up with money and from what I've heard they may even be looking for endowment money to be given to fund them. It's actually like an athletic scholarship, charged to the AD budget.

[Trotsky]

I believe Cornell's improved  financial aid is helping us attract top student athletes.

Hope so.  Yale and Princeton led the way and they have improved dramatically.  Small sample size of course -- we'll know in ten years whether those programs are going through random variation (past runs by Colgate, SLU, Dartmouth, even Brown) or are here to stay.

I heard again and again through the 90's that we were getting beaten to the puck on certain recruits solely over aid.  Maybe we've licked that problem.

Except that I don't think they have fully decided how they are going to pay for it. The Athletic Department has to come up with money and from what I've heard they may even be looking for endowment money to be given to fund them. It's actually like an athletic scholarship, charged to the AD budget.

I was more thinking maybe Cornell has licked the problem of kids getting screwed because their parents aren't either rich enough or poor enough.  HYP (not sure about H, but I assume so with their endowment) figured it out and filled the hole.  Dunno if we can afford to do that.  My understanding has always been that athletics can't do it -- it has to be aid offered on the same footing to a cellist, a poet, or god help us even an engineer.

[CAS]

It is my understanding that the improved financial aid is for all Cornell students.  One of the priorities of the current Cornell Campaign is to fund the new financial aid policy.  This will improve our ability to compete for economists, biologists, and talented goal scorers.  Please remember to sign your checks!

[Jim Hyla]

I believe Cornell's improved  financial aid is helping us attract top student athletes.

Hope so.  Yale and Princeton led the way and they have improved dramatically.  Small sample size of course -- we'll know in ten years whether those programs are going through random variation (past runs by Colgate, SLU, Dartmouth, even Brown) or are here to stay.

I heard again and again through the 90's that we were getting beaten to the puck on certain recruits solely over aid.  Maybe we've licked that problem.

Except that I don't think they have fully decided how they are going to pay for it. The Athletic Department has to come up with money and from what I've heard they may even be looking for endowment money to be given to fund them. It's actually like an athletic scholarship, charged to the AD budget.

I was more thinking maybe Cornell has licked the problem of kids getting screwed because their parents aren't either rich enough or poor enough.  HYP (not sure about H, but I assume so with their endowment) figured it out and filled the hole.  Dunno if we can afford to do that.  My understanding has always been that athletics can't do it -- it has to be aid offered on the same footing to a cellist, a poet, or god help us even an engineer.

Well, I obviously don't know, but someone in Alumni Affairs said they get charged back to the department, and they were going to have to find money.

[ithacat]

Also, young isn't necessarily "awkward."  Union's freshman class this season has been insane.

Not every freshman is born equal, however.

Union's class has 2 from 1989, 5 from 1990, and 1 from 1991.
Cornell's class has 1 from 1990, 3 from 1991, and 2 from 1992.

Cornell's oldest freshman is only 4 months older than Union's youngest. Next year's class could be even younger in relative terms.

[Swampy]

Also, young isn't necessarily "awkward."  Union's freshman class this season has been insane.

Not every freshman is born equal, however.

Union's class has 2 from 1989, 5 from 1990, and 1 from 1991.
Cornell's class has 1 from 1990, 3 from 1991, and 2 from 1992.

Cornell's oldest freshman is only 4 months older than Union's youngest. Next year's class could be even younger in relative terms.

Excellent point. I thought some of our top recruits, like Hudon, are slated to start school in 2012. Maybe next fall's class won't be so large, and what we're really seeing is Mike adjusting recruiting to have recruits sign on earlier and then season for a year or two in the BCHL, USHL, etc. This certainly seems to be the strategy of places like BC (and Yale), if one looks at Heisenberg.

[CAS]

Cornell recruit Madison Dias was named the BCHL player of the week, after his 7 point performance in 2 playoff games.

[Cornell95]

I think we can all agree that there are still some gaping holes in the current recruiting class

Where are the brothers (twins preferably) !!?!!!??
Did someone not get the memo that the Devins are graduating?

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