Cornell 4 Colgate 3 @ Newark postgame

[Trotsky]

"There is great discord under heaven and the situation is excellent." ::panic::

Tom's post summed it up thoroughly.  The Fall reminds us of how difficult it is to attain title caliber play.  Cornell will hopefully scratch and claw (and recruit) their way back there, but for now try to appreciate that they are basically starting from scratch again, and the past gives them no advantage.

A loss is not an insult; a win is a blessing.

[Trotsky]

In other news, while in Atlantic City, check out their lovely ballpark.  (The Comments really tell you how things are going in the "Las Vegas of the East." )

[judy]

If you had posted this a day or two earlier, I could've gone to check it out!

The building where the rink is, it looks like crap from the outside, much older than the hotels/casinos around it but the inside looks like it's been modernized. They also have advertisements up.

[jaywbigred]

I have to say I was disappointed by the crowd size, but I do think we outdrew Colgate about 2-1. We sat upstairs next to the band and I think we had a good vantage point of both the rest of upstairs and downstairs. It was most noticeable when we scored, you could judge by the number of people standing that it was probably 60% + Cornell fans.

Also, it is too bad things couldn't come together better for a game at the Rock like this. I am sure that people who went didn't really get any sense of how great the building is with a real crowd there.

[RichH]

I knew I would have to dig this up at some point. The wisest post of the year came on July 20:

http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,161307,161723#msg-161723

I can't see them having more than an "anything's possible" shot at the top 4 in 2011. With Nash returning they looked like a .500 team. Now, 8th or lower is far more likely.

Being in this position is going to be a totally new experience for a lot of younger fans. It's not a disaster and it won't last forever, but after winning for so long it's natural to feel entitled. The reaction to losing is not going to be pretty, but hopefully it will be driven by disappointment and frustration more than panic.

So when they go 9-11-2, please don't gorge out. After all, they've already clinched the playoffs. ;-)

I know what choice I voted for in the "where will CU finish" poll, and I wasn't alone.

[Josh '99]

In other news, while in Atlantic City, check out their lovely ballpark.  (The Comments really tell you how things are going in the "Las Vegas of the East." )

Hey, at least they managed to write an article about urban decay in South Jersey without a (seemingly obligatory) Springsteen reference.  Good for you, Press Of AC.

[Josh '99]

Also, it is too bad things couldn't come together better for a game at the Rock like this. I am sure that people who went didn't really get any sense of how great the building is with a real crowd there.

Yeah, you basically need a Rangers game for that to happen.

[Trotsky]

Also, it is too bad things couldn't come together better for a game at the Rock like this. I am sure that people who went didn't really get any sense of how great the building is with a real crowd there.

Yeah, you basically need a Rangers game for that to happen.

No.  He said "people."

[billhoward]

I have to say I was disappointed by the crowd size, but I do think we outdrew Colgate about 2-1. We sat upstairs next to the band and I think we had a good vantage point of both the rest of upstairs and downstairs. It was most noticeable when we scored, you could judge by the number of people standing that it was probably 60% + Cornell fans. Also, it is too bad things couldn't come together better for a game at the Rock like this. I am sure that people who went didn't really get any sense of how great the building is with a real crowd there.

Devils game Monday against the Caps had 2,500-5,000 (really hard to tell) empty seats, a lot at center ice. Had this been Cornell vs. BC, Maine, UNH, Notre Dame (good choice given their alumni base), TOSU, it might have been 10,000, Cornell did not promote this the way it did the MSG BU games.

[Scersk '97]

Had this been Cornell vs. BC, Maine, UNH, Notre Dame (good choice given their alumni base), TOSU, it might have been 10,000, Cornell did not promote this the way it did the MSG BU games.

I'd add to and cut from that list.  "BC fans sit on [their] hands" and don't show well outside of Massachusetts.  It's a long way from Maine to the tri-state area.  Notre Dame fans will show up for football anywhere.  Hockey?  Not so much.  tOSU?  See above for Notre Dame and factor in how bad their team is and will continue to be.

So, in my opinion, there are three schools worth scheduling for these things:  BU, Michigan, and, maybe, Wisconsin.  Both Michigan and Wisconsin, being somewhat "outward-looking" state institutions, have exported many alums to the NEC.  They, as BU does, should draw well from their alumni bases and might even lure in some casual fans.

I would love to see either of those teams in the next year "off" (from BU).  Let's hope the demise of the College Hockey Showcase arrangement will lead to more creative scheduling on the part of those teams involved.

[Jim Hyla]

I have to say I was disappointed by the crowd size, but I do think we outdrew Colgate about 2-1. We sat upstairs next to the band and I think we had a good vantage point of both the rest of upstairs and downstairs. It was most noticeable when we scored, you could judge by the number of people standing that it was probably 60% + Cornell fans.

Also, it is too bad things couldn't come together better for a game at the Rock like this. I am sure that people who went didn't really get any sense of how great the building is with a real crowd there.

It's not the building that makes it great, it's the crowd. Forget the building. Lynah is nothing without the Faithful. That's why Scrivens had newspapers and the band on his mask and not the building. Sh*t, even Hamilton can be fun for the Cornell game.

[Jim Hyla]

Had this been Cornell vs. BC, Maine, UNH, Notre Dame (good choice given their alumni base), TOSU, it might have been 10,000, Cornell did not promote this the way it did the MSG BU games.

I'd add to and cut from that list.  "BC fans sit on [their] hands" and don't show well outside of Massachusetts.  It's a long way from Maine to the tri-state area.  Notre Dame fans will show up for football anywhere.  Hockey?  Not so much.  tOSU?  See above for Notre Dame and factor in how bad their team is and will continue to be.

So, in my opinion, there are three schools worth scheduling for these things:  BU, Michigan, and, maybe, Wisconsin.  Both Michigan and Wisconsin, being somewhat "outward-looking" state institutions, have exported many alums to the NEC.  They, as BU does, should draw well from their alumni bases and might even lure in some casual fans.

I would love to see either of those teams in the next year "off" (from BU).  Let's hope the demise of the College Hockey Showcase arrangement will lead to more creative scheduling on the part of those teams involved.

It might if a Big Ten League forms.

[Rosey]

It's not the building that makes it great, it's the crowd. Forget the building. Lynah is nothing without the Faithful. That's why Scrivens had newspapers and the band on his mask and not the building. Sh*t, even Hamilton can be fun for the Cornell game.

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Well said, Jim.

[Scersk '97]

It might if a Big Ten League forms.

The way McLeod has been talking, it's a foregone conclusion.

[Josh '99]

Also, it is too bad things couldn't come together better for a game at the Rock like this. I am sure that people who went didn't really get any sense of how great the building is with a real crowd there.

Yeah, you basically need a Rangers game for that to happen.

No.  He said "people."

He said "people who went" (as in, to the Cornell game).  If you wanted to insult Rangers fans you would have had to play off the word "crowd".  That *is* the kind of halfassed effort I expect from a fan of a team that hired Garth Snow to be its GM, though.

(Unless you were implying that Colgate fans aren't people, in which case, true.)