Why the hate/dislike of Cornell?

[KeithK]

To be hated is not a bad thing. How many people hate Brown hockey or the Pittsburgh pirates? When you chronically suck, people tend to not care about you either way. Take it as a complement!!

I hate Brown hockey.  I think they play dirty and we always have guys get hurt when we play them.  (But I think your general point is still valid.)

They also have obnoxious 10 year old fans

But their rink has a great perch for heckling the goalie. And making the goalie's six year old cousin cry.  (I know, I'm going to hell.)

[jkahn]

To be hated is not a bad thing. How many people hate Brown hockey or the Pittsburgh pirates? When you chronically suck, people tend to not care about you either way. Take it as a complement!!

I hate Brown hockey.  I think they play dirty and we always have guys get hurt when we play them.  (But I think your general point is still valid.)

They also have obnoxious 10 year old fans

So did Bemidji - kids firing the Snickers bars back at Jim.  And they could be a possible first round opponent this year.

[adamw]

Jayson has always .... highly disliked .... Cornell.  Which is fine, since I always ... highly disliked RPI ... until they hired Seth Appert.  Anyone who is human has biases.  It is possible, however, to act professionally regardless.

[polar]

To be hated is not a bad thing. How many people hate Brown hockey or the Pittsburgh pirates? When you chronically suck, people tend to not care about you either way. Take it as a complement!!

I hate Brown hockey.  I think they play dirty and we always have guys get hurt when we play them.  (But I think your general point is still valid.)

They also have obnoxious 10 year old fans

So does Princeton. So do WE, while we're at it.

[Josh '99]

To be hated is not a bad thing. How many people hate Brown hockey or the Pittsburgh pirates? When you chronically suck, people tend to not care about you either way. Take it as a complement!!

I hate Brown hockey.  I think they play dirty and we always have guys get hurt when we play them.  (But I think your general point is still valid.)

They also have obnoxious 10 year old fans

So does Princeton. So do WE, while we're at it.

No no no.  Their 10-year-old fans are obnoxious.  Our 10-year-old fans are vociferous.

[Sperris]

Jayson has always .... highly disliked .... Cornell. Which is fine, since I always ... highly disliked RPI ... until they hired Seth Appert. Anyone who is human has biases. It is possible, however, to act professionally regardless.

Ahhh, this could very well be because the first year Jayson was writing he picked Colgate to beat us in the first round of the playoffs. That was the "Weder" series (1996). Cornell fans made fun of him for years after that.

[RedAR]

How about Klump's comment at the end of the ECAC blog today on USCHO? ::rolleyes::


Jason Klump:
Cornell fans can't win with class, as usual.  Chanting "winning team, losing team" as they point back and forth.

[Flyers1037]

How about Klump's comment at the end of the ECAC blog today on USCHO? ::rolleyes::


Jason Klump:
Cornell fans can't win with class, as usual.  Chanting "winning team, losing team" as they point back and forth.

There was a wound, we rubbed some salt in it.  My grandfather says it helps the healing process...

[TimV]

How about Klump's comment at the end of the ECAC blog today on USCHO? ::rolleyes::


Jason Klump:
Cornell fans can't win with class, as usual.  Chanting "winning team, losing team" as they point back and forth.

Gotta tell ya - I'm as rabid a Red fan as anyone here, but I didn't like it either, and I think that our later applause as Union was announced as runner up was probably unnoticed by simultaneously cheering Union (and other) fans.

The winning team/losing team thing is OK during regular season, but in a championship it's just shitty.  Some of those players were skating off the ice for the last time, and some parents were watching with tears in their eyes.  Maybe you have to be an athlete who takes off his jertsey for the last time to understand that feeling.  I wish we didn't do it.

[HeafDog]

How about Klump's comment at the end of the ECAC blog today on USCHO? ::rolleyes::


Jason Klump:
Cornell fans can't win with class, as usual.  Chanting "winning team, losing team" as they point back and forth.

Gotta tell ya - I'm as rabid a Red fan as anyone here, but I didn't like it either, and I think that our later applause as Union was announced as runner up was probably unnoticed by simultaneously cheering Union (and other) fans.

The winning team/losing team thing is OK during regular season, but in a championship it's just shitty.  Some of those players were skating off the ice for the last time, and some parents were watching with tears in their eyes.  Maybe you have to be an athlete who takes off his jertsey for the last time to understand that feeling.  I wish we didn't do it.

Tradition is tradition. There was nothing wrong with what we did. We earned the victory, and we earned the right to celebrate. Should the hockey team not hoist the trophy and skate toward the glass? Should they not throw their gloves and sticks and helmets on the ice? Should they not pose for a team picture? Where do you draw the line -- it's okay to do "winning team/losing team" in all games except the championship? What about the semis? We stood and applauded Union in a sportsmanlike manner. I have no regrets and make no apologies about our conduct vis-a-vis "winning team/losing team".

[Dpperk29]

We earned the victory, and we earned the right to celebrate.

Not trying to start anything (but it probably will).

But what exactly did you (meaning the cornell fans as a whole) to ensure victory? Sure you supported the team, and you yelled really loud. I would hardly say that those things entitle you to say that you "earned the victory" is stretching the truth just a little wouldn't you say?

And this isn't a "I hate cornell" thing. I feel the same way about all sports fans, friendly or unfriendly, who say similar things. "We" should only be used to refer to other fans in my opinion.

More on topic, I don't like the "Winning team, losing Team" thing, but those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Carry on as you see fit.

[Doug Dickerson]

Tim
You should have been with us at the Crowne when we were waiting for the team after the game.
We cheered and congratulated every Union player as they returned. There were none of their
fans waiting for them.
Doug

[Tom Tone]

We earned the victory, and we earned the right to celebrate.

Not trying to start anything (but it probably will).

But what exactly did you (meaning the cornell fans as a whole) to ensure victory? Sure you supported the team, and you yelled really loud. I would hardly say that those things entitle you to say that you "earned the victory" is stretching the truth just a little wouldn't you say?

I think you severely underestimate how much this group of players do everything in their power to win for the Lynah Faithful. In Albany, the Cornell fans drowned out what I expected to be a formidable Union crowd, considering the noise level during the semi-final game. But the stick salutes, the board crashings, the victory laps, hell even our goalie's helmet, show how much a role the Cornell fans play out there as the 7th man. Clarkson has great fans too that actually show up to away games, but I would not doubt for a second that every Cornell hockey fan would have been crushed had this group of seniors gone 4 years without so much as a single title.

[TimV]

Good to hear, Doug.  Wish I was there.

[andyw2100]

Tim
You should have been with us at the Crowne when we were waiting for the team after the game.
We cheered and congratulated every Union player as they returned. There were none of their
fans waiting for them.
Doug

I was going to comment on this as well. I'll just add the following:

As this was going on one Union fan (he was wearing a Union hockey windbreaker) who may well have been the father of a Union player (many of the Union players were arriving with their families) looked right at me as I was clapping, and said, "Classy guys. Very classy,", and patted me on the shoulder. He was definitely not being sarcastic at all. It was clear he really appreciated the fact that while we were obviously waiting there to greet and congratulate our own players, we were treating the Union players with respect.