Why the hate/dislike of Cornell?

[sigmanu@CU]

I'm a semi-regular reader of the web page www.uscho.com and am slightly surprised/dismayed by the blog posting: "How to keep Cornell Out" refering to what combination of teams winning and losing will keep the Red out of the Tourney. Why? Is it our style of play, are teams scared to face us?? We beat UND, UNH, tied BU...we are a good team, that I believe hasn't hit its stride all year...maybe this past weekend was different and it looks like the Nash's have woken up a bit.

Why would a national blogger write about how to get us out, and follow it up with a "Get Yale out too"? I know the ECAC is not a power conference, but its better then the CHA and AHA.

Flattering or frustrating?

Bob

[Al DeFlorio]

I'm guessing he's just playing the same game a lot of people here are trying to find combinations to effect certain outcomes.  Jayson's an RPI guy so it's natural he'd look at the ECACH candidates.

[Robb]

There's no hate/dislike there on Jayson Moy's part.  He's a solid ECAC fan through and through and I know that he would love for Cornell to make a deep run in the NCAAs.  That blog post is just to demonstrate that technically Cornell has not clinched a spot in the NCAAs.  People do this kind of thing every year, "Are you SURE team X hasn't clinched yet?"  "yes - see, here's this one weird series of upsets that make it theoretically possible for them to miss out."

It just so happens this year that the top 6-7 (can't recall exactly) teams HAVE clinched, and Cornell and Yale happen to be 2 teams that are very close to clinching at #8 and #9, so that's the region where the curiosity lies.  It's obvious that #14 hasn't clinched yet, so no such discussion of them is necessary.  Also, as I mentioned, Jayson is a huge ECAC fan, so it's natural that his interest is primarily in whether the ECAC teams are in or out - not that he hopes they are out.

Now on the USCHO forum...plenty of Cornell hate goes on over there!  Jealousy is not pretty.  ::rock::

[Jim Hyla]

Just look at what the second topic on this forum is. Why do many of you hate Harvard? That's why many others say they hate us. The fact is that behavior like that has been happening for a long time. I've probably opened a can of worms, but if you go around hating someone, you shouldn't be surprised that there may be others who hate you. Sad but true.

[marty]

Screw BU, Harvard Sucks, how 'bout them Goofers!, etc.

[sigmanu@CU]

::doh::
 
My bad...I didn't realize that the author is an ECAC guy.....I envisioned some hockey writer in St. Paul trying to figure out a way to eliminate any team east of Lansing, MI.

Why not just title it: "Bubble teams, Who's in, who's out? Cornell"

Seemed too specific and negative.

"Never mind"

LGR!

[lhayes]

I was struck by that headline too, but when I went back to Moy's prior blog posts, I found he had a whole list of tentative conclusions about who's in/ who's out.  He'd tentatively concluded both Cornell and Yale are definitely in (along with a number of other conclusions).  He then invited readers to send in counter-examples to his conclusions, as part of mutual education.  I wouldn't be surprised if someone sent him the "How to keep Cornell  out" scenario.  He seemed to be just honestly correcting his prior post.  Some folks are spending a LOT of time on that pairwise predictor.

Here's the original post that I think Moy was responding to:  

http://www.uscho.com/blogs/bracketology/jayson/20100314/who-is-in-who-is-out-early-possibilities-or-what-i-believe-may-be-the-case.html

[KeithK]

Just look at what the second topic on this forum is. Why do many of you hate Harvard? That's why many others say they hate us. The fact is that behavior like that has been happening for a long time. I've probably opened a can of worms, but if you go around hating someone, you shouldn't be surprised that there may be others who hate you. Sad but true.

I don't hate Harvard.  I just like to point out the objective fact that they suck. :-D

[Tcl123]

To be hated is not a bad thing. How many people hate Brown hockey or the Pittsburgh pirates? When you chronically suck, people tend to not care about you either way. Take it as a complement!!

[Rosey]

As a Yankee fan, the label "Evil Empire" is a badge of honor: bring it on, losers. :-)  The more fans who hate Cornell, the more likely it is we are doing well.

[Josh '99]

To be hated is not a bad thing. How many people hate Brown hockey or the Pittsburgh pirates? When you chronically suck, people tend to not care about you either way. Take it as a complement!!

I hate Brown hockey.  I think they play dirty and we always have guys get hurt when we play them.  (But I think your general point is still valid.)

[KeithK]

As a Yankee fan, the label "Evil Empire" is a badge of honor: bring it on, losers. :-)  The more fans who hate Cornell, the more likely it is we are doing well.

I remember reading that back in 2002 after the Patriots won the Super Bowl fans on Bourbon St. spent a lot of time chanting "Yankees Suck" rather than celebrating their team's victory.  As a Yankee fan That just warmed my heart.

[judy]

To be hated is not a bad thing. How many people hate Brown hockey or the Pittsburgh pirates? When you chronically suck, people tend to not care about you either way. Take it as a complement!!

I hate Brown hockey.  I think they play dirty and we always have guys get hurt when we play them.  (But I think your general point is still valid.)

They also have obnoxious 10 year old fans

[Trotsky]

To be hated is not a bad thing. How many people hate Brown hockey or the Pittsburgh pirates? When you chronically suck, people tend to not care about you either way. Take it as a complement!!

Nobody hates Cornell football.

[Al DeFlorio]

To be hated is not a bad thing. How many people hate Brown hockey or the Pittsburgh pirates? When you chronically suck, people tend to not care about you either way. Take it as a complement!!

Nobody hates Cornell football.

I'll confess to not being especially fond of it over the years.::thud::