Don't be packin' at the ECACs

[mnagowski]

I wonder how this will affect the people who MUST SIT IN THE SEATS THEY BOUGHT!!!! I wonder if they'll have a fit.

Oy. I had that problem last year in Albany with a couple of Cornellian assholes.

I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to sit in the seats they bought. Just because we want them to move so we can stand, or what, doesn't mean they have to. Certainly the attitude that they were assholes for not doing it will instill good feelings.

It didn't help that 1) somebody was already sitting in my seats, 2) I have some mobility issues, 3) the rows immediately in front and behind us were completely empty, and 4) their attitude exemplified 'asshole'.

[Killer]

I remember having a few laughs with people in the line for the 2003 ECACs.  Security was heightened because the Iraq war had just gotten underway, and the topic of of conversation was how impressed we'd be if the terrorists even knew there was hockey going on in Albany.

[ugarte]

I wonder how this will affect the people who MUST SIT IN THE SEATS THEY BOUGHT!!!! I wonder if they'll have a fit.

Oy. I had that problem last year in Albany with a couple of Cornellian assholes.

I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to sit in the seats they bought. Just because we want them to move so we can stand, or what, doesn't mean they have to. Certainly the attitude that they were assholes for not doing it will instill good feelings.

If there are a lot of empty seats around and a general feeling of camaraderie in a section full of fans of the same team - few of whom are in their "own" seats - being the stick-in-the-mud pointing to his/her tickets is pretty clear assholery. YMMV.

[JasonN95]

Don't we have a couple of games before Albany?  This sounds uncomfortably like the chatter on the NY Giants board before they played the Saints.  "What happens (not if we beat them, or lose to them) if we beat them real bad?"  Counting chickens is the main cause of eggs not hatching.

Even if Cornell doesn't make it, that doesn't mean the arena shouldn't give Cornell fans their own section. :-P

I recall the first ECAC tournament there after 9/11. I was not allowed to bring in an "executive" style pocket knife. Apparently there was a chance I could hijack the arena with a combination of the 1.5 inch blade, nail file, and toothpick, notwithstanding the presence of armed officers within the building and the fact that it is very firmly attached to the ground.

[Jim Hyla]

I wonder how this will affect the people who MUST SIT IN THE SEATS THEY BOUGHT!!!! I wonder if they'll have a fit.

Oy. I had that problem last year in Albany with a couple of Cornellian assholes.

I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to sit in the seats they bought. Just because we want them to move so we can stand, or what, doesn't mean they have to. Certainly the attitude that they were assholes for not doing it will instill good feelings.

If there are a lot of empty seats around and a general feeling of camaraderie in a section full of fans of the same team - few of whom are in their "own" seats - being the stick-in-the-mud pointing to his/her tickets is pretty clear assholery. YMMV.

There are a lot of assumptions there, and again the ifs are the problem. Not knowing the situation, I'd rather not be calling someone assholes. Sometimes it's how things are asked that determines the outcome.

[ugarte]

I wonder how this will affect the people who MUST SIT IN THE SEATS THEY BOUGHT!!!! I wonder if they'll have a fit.

Oy. I had that problem last year in Albany with a couple of Cornellian assholes.

I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to sit in the seats they bought. Just because we want them to move so we can stand, or what, doesn't mean they have to. Certainly the attitude that they were assholes for not doing it will instill good feelings.

If there are a lot of empty seats around and a general feeling of camaraderie in a section full of fans of the same team - few of whom are in their "own" seats - being the stick-in-the-mud pointing to his/her tickets is pretty clear assholery. YMMV.

There are a lot of assumptions there, and again the ifs are the problem. Not knowing the situation, I'd rather not be calling someone assholes. Sometimes it's how things are asked that determines the outcome.

And I am willing to trust mnag's contemporaneous judgment. Verdict: Assholes.

[Jim Hyla]

I wonder how this will affect the people who MUST SIT IN THE SEATS THEY BOUGHT!!!! I wonder if they'll have a fit.

Oy. I had that problem last year in Albany with a couple of Cornellian assholes.

I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to sit in the seats they bought. Just because we want them to move so we can stand, or what, doesn't mean they have to. Certainly the attitude that they were assholes for not doing it will instill good feelings.

If there are a lot of empty seats around and a general feeling of camaraderie in a section full of fans of the same team - few of whom are in their "own" seats - being the stick-in-the-mud pointing to his/her tickets is pretty clear assholery. YMMV.

There are a lot of assumptions there, and again the ifs are the problem. Not knowing the situation, I'd rather not be calling someone assholes. Sometimes it's how things are asked that determines the outcome.

And I am willing to trust mnag's contemporaneous judgment. Verdict: Assholes.

So be it.

[Al DeFlorio]

I wonder how this will affect the people who MUST SIT IN THE SEATS THEY BOUGHT!!!! I wonder if they'll have a fit.

Oy. I had that problem last year in Albany with a couple of Cornellian assholes.

I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to sit in the seats they bought. Just because we want them to move so we can stand, or what, doesn't mean they have to. Certainly the attitude that they were assholes for not doing it will instill good feelings.

If there are a lot of empty seats around and a general feeling of camaraderie in a section full of fans of the same team - few of whom are in their "own" seats - being the stick-in-the-mud pointing to his/her tickets is pretty clear assholery. YMMV.

There are a lot of assumptions there, and again the ifs are the problem. Not knowing the situation, I'd rather not be calling someone assholes. Sometimes it's how things are asked that determines the outcome.

And I am willing to trust mnag's contemporaneous judgment. Verdict: Assholes.

So be it.

I'm with Jim.  So much depends on the situation.  If someone has seats in the Cornell section, comes early to watch the #1 seed play, sees the section fill pretty much up around him, goes out during the break for a slice or a burger, comes back to find the section close to filled (as the ones near center ice pretty much were last year), and then finds others squatting in his seats, I think it's perfectly proper to request the seats back.  If the squatter gives him a hard time, the squatter is the asshole.

It's one thing to claim empty seats in a sparsely-filled section (we did this in Foxboro last May after the Dukies left, heads-hanging), but where seats in a section are scarce, why should a legitimate seat-holder have to scavenge for empties?

[mnagowski]

I wonder how this will affect the people who MUST SIT IN THE SEATS THEY BOUGHT!!!! I wonder if they'll have a fit.

Oy. I had that problem last year in Albany with a couple of Cornellian assholes.

I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to sit in the seats they bought. Just because we want them to move so we can stand, or what, doesn't mean they have to. Certainly the attitude that they were assholes for not doing it will instill good feelings.

If there are a lot of empty seats around and a general feeling of camaraderie in a section full of fans of the same team - few of whom are in their "own" seats - being the stick-in-the-mud pointing to his/her tickets is pretty clear assholery. YMMV.

There are a lot of assumptions there, and again the ifs are the problem. Not knowing the situation, I'd rather not be calling someone assholes. Sometimes it's how things are asked that determines the outcome.

And I am willing to trust mnag's contemporaneous judgment. Verdict: Assholes.

Thank you. My father and two classmates agreed.

[redice]

I wonder how this will affect the people who MUST SIT IN THE SEATS THEY BOUGHT!!!! I wonder if they'll have a fit.

Oy. I had that problem last year in Albany with a couple of Cornellian assholes.

I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to sit in the seats they bought. Just because we want them to move so we can stand, or what, doesn't mean they have to. Certainly the attitude that they were assholes for not doing it will instill good feelings.

If there are a lot of empty seats around and a general feeling of camaraderie in a section full of fans of the same team - few of whom are in their "own" seats - being the stick-in-the-mud pointing to his/her tickets is pretty clear assholery. YMMV.

There are a lot of assumptions there, and again the ifs are the problem. Not knowing the situation, I'd rather not be calling someone assholes. Sometimes it's how things are asked that determines the outcome.

And I am willing to trust mnag's contemporaneous judgment. Verdict: Assholes.

So be it.

I'm with Jim.  So much depends on the situation.  If someone has seats in the Cornell section, comes early to watch the #1 seed play, sees the section fill pretty much up around him, goes out during the break for a slice or a burger, comes back to find the section close to filled (as the ones near center ice pretty much were last year), and then finds others squatting in his seats, I think it's perfectly proper to request the seats back.  If the squatter gives him a hard time, the squatter is the asshole.

It's one thing to claim empty seats in a sparsely-filled section (we did this in Foxboro last May after the Dukies left, heads-hanging), but where seats in a section are scarce, why should a legitimate seat-holder have to scavenge for empties?

I'm with Al on this one.    My wife has mobility issues.   She's not in a wheelchair.   But, climbing a lot stairs is painful for her.   We buy specific seats in an effort to minimize the stair climbing.   If we came to our seats & someone refused to move (as if it was their God-given right to sit where they want), I would say the "asshole" is on the other foot!

[RichH]

I would say the "asshole" is on the other foot!

Ew. Thanks for that...image?

[Trotsky]

I'm with Al on this one.    My wife has mobility issues.   She's not in a wheelchair.   But, climbing a lot stairs is painful for her.   We buy specific seats in an effort to minimize the stair climbing.   If we came to our seats & someone refused to move (as if it was their God-given right to sit where they want), I would say the "asshole" is on the other foot!

I hope 99 out of a 100 people -- even teenagers -- would move in that situation.  There have been a couple run-ins with jerks in the Cornell crowd, invariably in Albany for some reason, but if you keep your head you'll quickly get the entire row telling the little d-bags to move along.