cornell gets killed by penn 79-64

[phillysportsfan]

Cornell up 24-21 at the half, Cornell has not made a 3, 0/2

[billhoward]

Cornell up 24-21 at the half, Cornell has not made a 3, 0/2

With such poor 3-point shooting in the first half, maybe there's a pony in there somewhere?

[ugarte]

Cornell up 24-21 at the half, Cornell has not made a 3, 0/2

With such poor 3-point shooting in the first half, maybe there's a pony in there somewhere?

Princeton is the best defensive team in the conference. They are obviously defending the perimeter tight if Cornell only took two threes in the first half. Wroblewski hit one in the second half.

Currently 30-30, ~11 to go.

[phillysportsfan]

32-32 7min left, a defensive struggle, neither team can score

[ugarte]

CU 44, PU 38, 1:05 to go

[ugarte]

44-43, 25 seconds left, Cornell ball.

Dale to the free throw line for one and one.

45-43 ... 46-43. 22 seconds to go; Princeton time out.

Princeton misses, rebounds, is fouled. Two shots.

46-44 ... 46-45. Cornell inbounds... 10 seconds left... Cornell ball

Wittman to shoot one and one...

47-45 ... 48-45 8 seconds. timeout princeton.

Game. Whew. The ship has been righted and Cornell is back on top of the Ivy League.

[phillysportsfan]

that game was a heart attack but credit to Dale and Wittman for making the free throws at the end

[DeltaOne81]

For godsakes, this is the Ivy league in basketball. We should be happy if they make the tournament period, not fretting over not getting a good enough of a seed. Get your expectations in check.

This is too negative, a frustration built on decades of failure. This is a GOOD team, and we don't have to set our sights quite that low.

I don't mean we should be thrilled that they make the tournament and that all. But we should be happy, a conference title is never a given. And how many team's go a whole season without a bad game? How many teams go a whole season without catching another team on a hot night and losing when on paper they should win?

On a realistic basis, the idea of a this team cruising without a bump and gliding into the tournament is highly unlikely, and for an Ivy team to do that would demand nothing short of perfection, and that's just not going to happen.

Now, assuming they get to the tournament, I do think its reasonable to feel they need to provide a better performance than the past two years. But however you slice it, they're going to be an underdog, and a win would be an upset, by definition that's something you can't just expect.

[Jordan 04]

No posts from Lobo about the game. I guess he only "gives a shit" when we lose?

[phillysportsfan]

Lobo was probably too busy watching his Lobos almost lose to Utah in OT last night

[YankeeLobo]

Lobo was probably too busy watching his Lobos almost lose to Utah in OT last night

Sorry I'm not as excited as you guys about a 3 point squeaker vs Princeton.  Their 48 pt output should signal to Cornell fans that they haven't fixed whatever issues hurt them vs Penn.  Granted, a win is a win, and a win vs Princeton was doubly important, but the offense still has major issues.

Lobos ranked #12 in the AP, I'm not complaining.  Just to put things in perspective for you phillysportsfan, the Lobos were 6-52 all time at the Huntsman Center in Salt Lake City.  Any road win in the Mountain West is a good win (we don't take bus rides to road games), especially after a win earlier in the week at UNLV...something this Cornell team has showed us they lack is the ability to execute and win in letdown or trap games.

[Jordan 04]

Lobo was probably too busy watching his Lobos almost lose to Utah in OT last night

Sorry I'm not as excited as you guys about a 3 point squeaker vs Princeton.  Their 48 pt output should signal to Cornell fans that they haven't fixed whatever issues hurt them vs Penn.  Granted, a win is a win, and a win vs Princeton was doubly important, but the offense still has major issues.

Lobos ranked #12 in the AP, I'm not complaining.  Just to put things in perspective for you phillysportsfan, the Lobos were 6-52 all time at the Huntsman Center in Salt Lake City.  Any road win in the Mountain West is a good win (we don't take bus rides to road games), especially after a win earlier in the week at UNLV...something this Cornell team has showed us they lack is the ability to execute and win in letdown or trap games.

And Cornell is 26-79 all time @ Princeton. But let's not let facts get in the way of discrediting Cornell's squeaker.

And I'm curious to know where Cornell's "lack of ability to execute and win in trap games" was when they smashed Dartmouth by 34 points the night before the most (nationally) hyped game the league will see this year. I suppose they should have won by 50 that night?

[YankeeLobo]

Lobo was probably too busy watching his Lobos almost lose to Utah in OT last night

Sorry I'm not as excited as you guys about a 3 point squeaker vs Princeton.  Their 48 pt output should signal to Cornell fans that they haven't fixed whatever issues hurt them vs Penn.  Granted, a win is a win, and a win vs Princeton was doubly important, but the offense still has major issues.

Lobos ranked #12 in the AP, I'm not complaining.  Just to put things in perspective for you phillysportsfan, the Lobos were 6-52 all time at the Huntsman Center in Salt Lake City.  Any road win in the Mountain West is a good win (we don't take bus rides to road games), especially after a win earlier in the week at UNLV...something this Cornell team has showed us they lack is the ability to execute and win in letdown or trap games.

And Cornell is 26-79 all time @ Princeton. But let's not let facts get in the way of discrediting Cornell's squeaker.

And I'm curious to know where Cornell's "lack of ability to execute and win in trap games" was when they smashed Dartmouth by 34 points the night before the most (nationally) hyped game the league will see this year. I suppose they should have won by 50 that night?

Princeton was a dominant force in the league for years, while Cornell was a dog until 3 years ago.  That 26-79 road record shouldn't apply in a year when Cornell is two-time defending Ivy champion and an "at large" quality tournament team as we'd been hearing up until the loss to Penn.  The history of New Mexico/Utah is a little more balanced than Princeton/Cornell in terms of the quality of teams each put on the court for the last 60 years.  6-52 is just a BIT worse than 26-79, no?

Point taken on my trap game comment.

[Jordan 04]

Lobo was probably too busy watching his Lobos almost lose to Utah in OT last night

Sorry I'm not as excited as you guys about a 3 point squeaker vs Princeton.  Their 48 pt output should signal to Cornell fans that they haven't fixed whatever issues hurt them vs Penn.  Granted, a win is a win, and a win vs Princeton was doubly important, but the offense still has major issues.

Lobos ranked #12 in the AP, I'm not complaining.  Just to put things in perspective for you phillysportsfan, the Lobos were 6-52 all time at the Huntsman Center in Salt Lake City.  Any road win in the Mountain West is a good win (we don't take bus rides to road games), especially after a win earlier in the week at UNLV...something this Cornell team has showed us they lack is the ability to execute and win in letdown or trap games.

And Cornell is 26-79 all time @ Princeton. But let's not let facts get in the way of discrediting Cornell's squeaker.

And I'm curious to know where Cornell's "lack of ability to execute and win in trap games" was when they smashed Dartmouth by 34 points the night before the most (nationally) hyped game the league will see this year. I suppose they should have won by 50 that night?

Princeton was a dominant force in the league for years, while Cornell was a dog until 3 years ago.  That 26-79 road record shouldn't apply in a year when Cornell is two-time defending Ivy champion and an "at large" quality tournament team as we'd been hearing up until the loss to Penn.  The history of New Mexico/Utah is a little more balanced than Princeton/Cornell in terms of the quality of teams each put on the court for the last 60 years.  6-52 is just a BIT worse than 26-79, no?

Point taken on my trap game comment.

I agree completely that the Cornell road record doesn't apply this year.  But then nor should the Lobos/Utes historic record in a year when the Lobos are ranked #12 in the nation and the Utes are losing consistently to teams in the 200's and 300's in RPI.  New Mexico and Utah are separated by 150 spots in the current RPI rankings. The Cornell/Princeton disparity is about half as wide.

I'm not saying either team's 3 point road squeaker is an impressive win. Both are "a win in a win" type of victories, and shouldn't be treated completely differently by a fan of both teams.

Furthermore, to say that the Princeton game was a continuation of Friday night's troubles denotes at best a failure to watch each game, and at worst, a failure to even look at the boxscores afterwards. The games were entirely different, as were the reason's for the team's struggles. Friday's problems were predominantly on the defensive end. Saturday night the team defense was incredible. Friday night the offense was respectable; the team shot 43% from the field, which includes the need to start forcing shots in the last couple of minutes. Saturday night we shot even better (46%). The lower point total for Cornell on Saturday was largely a product of Princeton taking the full shot clock on every possession.

[semsox]

Princeton is #1 in the nation in scoring defense (PPG allowed), but you're totally right.  Just a continuation of the problems from Penn.::rolleyes::

Also, how about some perspective on EXPECTING this team to sweep Penn and Princeton.  In the history of the Ivy League, Penn and Princeton have been swept at home 6 times.

Six.