Just out......#25 in basketball

[kingpin248]

Helpful day for us: St. John's smoked Louisville and Seton Hall beat Notre Dame.

By the B-T, yesterday's results moved the rank of Cornell's strength of schedule from 63 to 55. The Big Red is presently ranked 18.
Here are the same ratings data, except sorted into separate tables for each conference. Clicking on "IL" in the row of abbreviations at the top will take you to the Ivy League table.

In other rankings...
Pomeroy: 54
Sagarin: 38
Massey: 29
Colley: 37
RPI: 48

[French Rage]

Also I dont think that extra attendance between 4000+ and a sellout makes a big difference on the noise since the townies side barely makes any noise and almost all of the cheers come from the first 4 rows in the center of the student section. The other students join in sometimes but never really start the cheers

I disagree about townies side barely making any noise.  They make a good portion of the noise that is reacting to plays on the court, which is the majority of the noise in basketball games.  

Regarding cheers, if the students want others to join in, they have to finally figure out that they need to keep a steady pace with the cheer rather than immediately speeding up. It's frustrating to hear "DE--FENSE..DE--DEFENSE..DE-FENSE.DE-FENSE.DEFENSE.DEFENSEDEFENSEDEFENSE.."silence.  Ditto with the "Let's Go Red" chant.  There's no time to build the cheer up, and I'm sure most on the townies' side don't bother because they know it will be too fast and dying down by the time they join in anyway.

This is pretty much an omipresent problem at any sporting event in the last ten years or so.

[ugarte]

Hellooooooooooo 14 seed. And that's assuming we beat Princeton. Woof.

[YankeeLobo]

They can still salvage a 12/13 seed if they win out.  amazing how quickly things change when you lose to a 3-15 team.

[David Harding]

The NCAA gathered a bunch of journalists earlier this week and ran a mock selection and seeding exercise.  It's clearly part of the hype, but also intended to diffuse criticism of the process.  I found the descriptions of the process interesting.  This is at least the second year the NCAA has done this, with a different crew of reporters.  

Their seed list is here. (Cornell #44)
Their brackets are here. (Cornell #11 against Georgia Tech in Milwaukee.)

This was, of course, before Friday's and Saturday's games and with various assumptions about autobids.  

You can find stories from most of the participants on line.  For example
[Chicago] Daily Herald
Lexinton Herald-Leader (day 1) (day 2)


If you want to check other versions, here's the complete participant list for you to Google
John Akers, Basketball Times;
Tom Akins, Associated Press Radio;
Dave Birkett, Ann Arbor.com;
John Bohnenkamp, Burlington Hawk Eye;
Eamonn Brennan, ESPN.com;
Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal; J
ohn Clay, Lexington Herald-Leader;
Dan Gavitt, Big East Conference;
Clark Kellogg, CBS Sports;
Scott Leykam, West Coast Conference;
Kevin McNamara, Providence Journal;
Malcolm Moran, USBWA (actually snowed in and did not make it);
Tom Odjakjian, Big East Conference;
Jerry Palm, CollegeRPI.com;
Bill Rabinowitz, Columbus Dispatch;
Will Roleson, Horizon League;
Shannon Ryan, Chicago Tribune;
Steve Scheer, CBS Sports;
John Underwood, Big 12 Conference;
Lindsey Wilhite, Daily Herald

[2]

#11 seed would be much better than an 8 or 9.  Don't want to have to play the #1 in the second round.

[kingpin248]

New polls out. Two votes in the AP; 24 votes in the coaches' poll; outside the top 25 in both.

Lunardi's newest bracket has Cornell as the Midwest #11, playing Baylor in Providence in the first round.

[dbilmes]

Today's Cornell Daily Sun has a photo of Penn fans storming the court after their victory over Cornell on Friday. This may have been the first time in history that opposing fans stormed the court after defeating Cornell in basketball. That's not something we're going to see too often! As painful as it is to see, it's a statement about where our program currently stands.

[Jordan 04]

New polls out. Two votes in the AP; 24 in the coaches' poll.

Lunardi's newest bracket has Cornell as the Midwest #11, playing Baylor in Providence in the first round.

You may want to rephrase that. Maybe it's just me, but I read that and thought "Wow, we only dropped 2 spots?", not realizing it meant we received 24 votes which put us at #28.

[ugarte]

New polls out. Two votes in the AP; 24 in the coaches' poll.

Lunardi's newest bracket has Cornell as the Midwest #11, playing Baylor in Providence in the first round.

You may want to rephrase that. Maybe it's just me, but I read that and thought "Wow, we only dropped 2 spots?", not realizing it meant we received 24 votes which put us at #28.

A distant 28. Running the table will not put Cornell back in the top 25. We are as likely to shed votes as to add them, even if we run the table.

[semsox]

New polls out. Two votes in the AP; 24 in the coaches' poll.

Lunardi's newest bracket has Cornell as the Midwest #11, playing Baylor in Providence in the first round.

You may want to rephrase that. Maybe it's just me, but I read that and thought "Wow, we only dropped 2 spots?", not realizing it meant we received 24 votes which put us at #28.

A distant 28. Running the table will not put Cornell back in the top 25. We are as likely to shed votes as to add them, even if we run the table.

I don't see that happening.  When are we going to lose votes?  If we sweep a road series @Harvard and Dartmouth?  A home sweep of Penn and Princeton?  Winning the Ivy League on the road @Yale or Brown?  If we win out we'll be back in the top 25 of the coaches' poll at least

[YankeeLobo]

New polls out. Two votes in the AP; 24 in the coaches' poll.

Lunardi's newest bracket has Cornell as the Midwest #11, playing Baylor in Providence in the first round.

You may want to rephrase that. Maybe it's just me, but I read that and thought "Wow, we only dropped 2 spots?", not realizing it meant we received 24 votes which put us at #28.

A distant 28. Running the table will not put Cornell back in the top 25. We are as likely to shed votes as to add them, even if we run the table.

I don't see that happening.  When are we going to lose votes?  If we sweep a road series @Harvard and Dartmouth?  A home sweep of Penn and Princeton?  Winning the Ivy League on the road @Yale or Brown?  If we win out we'll be back in the top 25 of the coaches' poll at least

Keep dreaming.  They lost to a sub-300 RPI team.  They'll hang around but most of the voters that believed in Cornell as a Top 25 team were proved very wrong last Friday night and probbaly won't put them back into the Top 25.  Plus there are other deserving teams that deserve a shot at the rankings.

[ugarte]

New polls out. Two votes in the AP; 24 in the coaches' poll.

Lunardi's newest bracket has Cornell as the Midwest #11, playing Baylor in Providence in the first round.

You may want to rephrase that. Maybe it's just me, but I read that and thought "Wow, we only dropped 2 spots?", not realizing it meant we received 24 votes which put us at #28.

A distant 28. Running the table will not put Cornell back in the top 25. We are as likely to shed votes as to add them, even if we run the table.

I don't see that happening.  When are we going to lose votes?  If we sweep a road series @Harvard and Dartmouth?  A home sweep of Penn and Princeton?  Winning the Ivy League on the road @Yale or Brown?  If we win out we'll be back in the top 25 of the coaches' poll at least

We won't lose votes for beating Harvard/Brown. We will lose votes if during the same week that we beat Harvard/Brown, a team in the 20-30 range beats a top 15 team.

[HeafDog]

If Harvard beat us in Cambridge, would the one-game playoff be played at a neutral site or are there other tie breakers to determine where the playoff is held?

How would that happen? I mean, seriously. We beat them by 36 effing points. The only way I could see that happening is if, giant turtle forbid, an injury occurred to one particular seven-foot-tall center, whose last name starts with the letter 'F' and ends with "oote".

Wow. Now that's overconfidence. Maybe Harvard & Lin had a bad night.  Maybe all those threes we hit don't fall.  Maybe they go and study the tape and find a weakness to exploit?  Maybe we get sloppy on the road?

Oh no, wait, you're right.  In basketball, past performance completely predicts future results. There's no plausible way that we don't beat Harvard at their place by at least 25 based on this game.  Back up the money trucks to the casino, fellow Cornellians.  LOSING IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

HA! I was right! We did beat Harvard! :-P :-D

[phillysportsfan]

If Harvard beat us in Cambridge, would the one-game playoff be played at a neutral site or are there other tie breakers to determine where the playoff is held?

How would that happen? I mean, seriously. We beat them by 36 effing points. The only way I could see that happening is if, giant turtle forbid, an injury occurred to one particular seven-foot-tall center, whose last name starts with the letter 'F' and ends with "oote".

Wow. Now that's overconfidence. Maybe Harvard & Lin had a bad night.  Maybe all those threes we hit don't fall.  Maybe they go and study the tape and find a weakness to exploit?  Maybe we get sloppy on the road?

Oh no, wait, you're right.  In basketball, past performance completely predicts future results. There's no plausible way that we don't beat Harvard at their place by at least 25 based on this game.  Back up the money trucks to the casino, fellow Cornellians.  LOSING IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

HA! I was right! We did beat Harvard! :-P :-D

That was a delayed response