Cornell 5 Clarkson 3, Postgame Thread

Started by Trotsky, January 30, 2010, 09:17:56 PM

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billhoward

An excellent weekend for Cornell sports. Does anyone think 3 goals is too much to give up to the league's worst team? Imagine if our PP had continued on its merry oh-for-thirtysomething way.

Trotsky

Quote from: Dpperk29And one more thing, nearly every home team in the world usually gets some help from the referees. It's just the way it is I think. For some reason or another the zebras always seem to call the questionable call on the visitors and let it slide on the home team. I have no hard evidence of this theory, just unrecorded observations.

Easy enough to test the hypothesis, although arguably home teams get an an emotional edge from their crowd which puts the D team short a step, forcing them into obstruction penalties.

billhoward

If this theory holds, an outlier data point would be the missed penalty called against North Dakta that led to the winning goal.

ithacat

Quote from: Dpperk29The officials were definitely on cornell's side, but I am not sure it cost Clarkson the game.

Clarkson's the most penalized team in the league. Apparently, the refs favor every other team as well. ::snore:: Roll's a punk and his team plays like punks. They're the dirtiest and whiniest team in the league. The crap they get away with after the whistle and in the crease is amazing. I can't remember the last time I saw an official push a player so hard in the chest it was nearly a punch -- give the ref credit for not tossing the whelp, Three times the ref sent Cornell players and Clarkson players, and each time the Clarkson player instigated things -- once the ref sent 2 Cornell players for something started by Clarkson.

PS, is Clarkson's band capable of learning to wrap up a song after the puck drops?

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Dpperk29
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Dpperk29That was a pretty decent game. Cornell played well, so did Clarkson. The officials were definitely on cornell's side, but I am not sure it cost Clarkson the game. Oh well, maybe this will set up for another playoff series @ Lynah between Clarkson and Cornell, those are always fun (see ECAC quarterfinals 2004).
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I think what caused Clarkson the game was a 42-21 shot differential. After all we were only a net 1 on PPs.

Alright, I'll try to stay calm.

There were at least 2 Clarkson penalties that got called that just flat out were not penalties (Holding on Rufenach and Elbowing on Cayer). And there were several times cornell players got away with some of the exact same stick work that Clarkson got penalized for. So yes, I really do think that the officials were on cornell's side. Though I do think cornell probably would have won either way.

And cornell fans of anyone should know that shots mean about as much as spy satelites over canada. I remember many a cornell game where cornell would have huge shot totals and lose 2-1 (or some similar score).

And one more thing, nearly every home team in the world usually gets some help from the referees. It's just the way it is I think. For some reason or another the zebras always seem to call the questionable call on the visitors and let it slide on the home team. I have no hard evidence of this theory, just unrecorded observations.
Please do, but to come to a Cornell board and then complain that the officials were on our side, well, what do you expect? When I posted on the Knight's board I certainly didn't try to be inflammatory. Unfortunately over the years it seems there has to be a Clarkson fan who posts that way. Check out my posts on your board, I don't go trying to pick a fight.

The fact is you got beat in all aspects except SH. You are not having a good season and it's not because of the officials. I personally want you to do well, since you travel well and bring your band. We've had many great games over the years and I hope you can get up again in the future.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

ithacat

Quote from: Jim HylaI personally want you to do well, since you travel well and bring your band. We've had many great games over the years and I hope you can get up again in the future.

I'd agree, except I'll have to hold back until Roll's moved on.

Rosey

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Quote from: Jim HylaI personally want you to do well, since you travel well and bring your band. We've had many great games over the years and I hope you can get up again in the future.

I'd agree, except I'll have to hold back until Roll's moved on.
Given the trajectory of his team, one hopes that isn't too far in the future.
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Dpperk29

Quote from: ithacat
Quote from: Dpperk29The officials were definitely on cornell's side, but I am not sure it cost Clarkson the game.

Clarkson's the most penalized team in the league. Apparently, the refs favor every other team as well. ::snore:: Roll's a punk and his team plays like punks. They're the dirtiest and whiniest team in the league. The crap they get away with after the whistle and in the crease is amazing. I can't remember the last time I saw an official push a player so hard in the chest it was nearly a punch -- give the ref credit for not tossing the whelp, Three times the ref sent Cornell players and Clarkson players, and each time the Clarkson player instigated things -- once the ref sent 2 Cornell players for something started by Clarkson.

PS, is Clarkson's band capable of learning to wrap up a song after the puck drops?

Honestly,

Most nights I think Clarkson deserves each and every penalty they are given, and they probably deserve a few more than get called.

Whiniest team? How is that even possible with Bob Gaudet still coaching in the league?

My experience in hockey is that generally when things get nasty in front of the net the officials try to take an even number of players from both teams, it does take two to tango after all. Sometimes, you'll see one team get more than the other because one player did something egregious to start it or keep it going.
"That damn bell at Clarkson." -Ken Dryden in reference to his hatred for the Clarkson Bell.

Trotsky

Quote from: Dpperk29Whiniest team? How is that even possible with Bob Gaudet still coaching in the league?

That was my thought for "dirtiest team."  I have a hard time imaging Clarkson as being unclassy -- over the years they've been my favorite conference opponent.

billhoward


billhoward

A team plays a defensive game like we do, there must be posts aplenty about us being an allegedly dirty team on the fanboards at Harvard, Brown, etcetera. They do have fanboards?

jeff '84

Halfway down, "media/podcast" - the Barry Melrose line 1/27 -- Melrose reiterates that CU is the best team he's seen this year....
http://espn.go.com/nhl/

Jim Hyla

Quote from: jeff '84Halfway down, "media/podcast" - the Barry Melrose line 1/27 -- Melrose reiterates that CU is the best team he's seen this year....
http://espn.go.com/nhl/
But then again, he hasn't seen a lot and that might have been our best game.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: jeff '84Halfway down, "media/podcast" - the Barry Melrose line 1/27 -- Melrose reiterates that CU is the best team he's seen this year....
http://espn.go.com/nhl/
He also reiterates Cornell plays on one of the smallest ice surfaces in college hockey.  Someone ought to tell him it's standard NHL-sized.
Al DeFlorio '65

polar

Quote from: philmaywaltBig difference in Video Feed--The feed for SLU (which was at best, horrid) as opposed to the Clarkson feed (astounding--even in color).  The feed of the SLU game, which was a nail-biter start to finish, was unwatchable.  Is there a difference as to who was running the video feed (company-wise), or do we just have bad RedCast nights???

Thanks for any feedback.

Phil

Info from the videographer Saturday night... apparently they were streaming differently Friday to Saturday. Friday they used multiple cameras, which meant they had to use a device called the stream genie to compile them. The genie then fed the data to a computer, which sent it to the internet. Saturday night, there was only one camera, so they were able to feed the stream directly to a computer and the web. Apparently they also streamed from different computers Friday and Saturday night.