North Dakota Postgame 1/23

[Trotsky]

Well, if Dartmouth can hang on Cornell will at least have picked up percentage against Union.

Edit: and they do.  So:

1. .727 Cornell 7-2-2
2. .708 Union 7-2-3
3. .667 St. Lawrence 7-3-2
3. .667 Yale 7-3-2

[philmaywalt]

We stood around tonight a LOT.  I hope that changes during the rest of the season--or it might now bode well.....

[Jim Hyla]

Posted by: Oat (---.revip2.asianet.co.th) [ PM ]
Date: January 23, 2010 09:09PM

    Robb
    And an absolutely horrible giveaway in our zone leads to UND's 2nd goal. Ugh. D'agostino brought it out way too casually from behind our net and the Sioux player just picked him clean from behind.
     


Was it a "clean" pick? I didn't see it, but Greening immediately rushed to the referee after the goal and then Schafer argued for a while.

No it was not a clean pick. Terrible no call. The whole rink, Cornell bench and coaches were in uproar over it. I'm going to look at the Redcast, but a terrible way to end a good game. Yes, again they outplayed us, they have better players than we do; but to take the wind out of our sails that way was terrible.

[oceanst41]

No it was not a clean pick. Terrible no call. The whole rink, Cornell bench and coaches were in uproar over it. I'm going to look at the Redcast, but a terrible way to end a good game. Yes, again they outplayed us, they have better players than we do; but to take the wind out of our sails that way was terrible.

I have not taken a look at a replay yet, but at first blush it appeared to be a lot of stick work to me too. But again, Cornell got outworked, especially between the blue lines. UND had awesome puck pressure all weekend long.

Edit: I'll say outworked except in their own end. Cornell played fantastic defense all weekend too.

[JasonN95]

Posted by: Oat (---.revip2.asianet.co.th) [ PM ]
Date: January 23, 2010 09:09PM

    Robb
    And an absolutely horrible giveaway in our zone leads to UND's 2nd goal. Ugh. D'agostino brought it out way too casually from behind our net and the Sioux player just picked him clean from behind.
     


Was it a "clean" pick? I didn't see it, but Greening immediately rushed to the referee after the goal and then Schafer argued for a while.

No it was not a clean pick. Terrible no call. The whole rink, Cornell bench and coaches were in uproar over it. I'm going to look at the Redcast, but a terrible way to end a good game. Yes, again they outplayed us, they have better players than we do; but to take the wind out of our sails that way was terrible.

I may be arguing semantics, but I would not say that ND outplayed Cornell. ND likely has better players but I thought Cornell generated more legitimate scoring chances up to that point in the game by playing disciplined, "smart" hockey. ND at times kept control of the puck with superior skating/passing, but Cornell didn't recklessly chase or forget positioning and ND had very few threatening shots to show for it. It felt to me like a game that "should" have gone to Cornell, whereas last night "should" have gone to ND. It reminds me of the two game series at BU a few years back when BU was ranked a little higher and Cornell won the game they should have lost and lost the game they should have won.

(Edits for typos. I'm tired. ::snore:

[Travis 02]

I thought the 2nd ND goal resulted from a lackadaisical breakout, but also our guy was tripped right in front of our net as the puck was being skated out.  That's how I saw it from section F.  

Funny thing was, I thought I heard the Cornell goal announced with 9 seconds remaining as "Theeeee TYING Cornell goal, scored by . . . ".
I swear he said "tying".  He definitely did not say "first" Cornell goal, as I would have expected.  At first I though "ouch, what an embarrassing misstatement" but then I thought it was deliberate protest.  That 2nd UND goal was BS because it was the direct result a BLATANT penalty (Cornell's lackadaisical play is beside the point if penalties are not being called).
Overall not the most exciting hockey I've seen in Lynah due to UND shutting down and playing pretty good defense, despite our good pressure at the end.

Can anyone else comment if they noticed how the CU goal was announced?

[Trotsky]

He definitely did not say "first" Cornell goal, as I would have expected.

Our first goal is announced as "The Cornell goal..." not "The first Cornell goal..."

[Jim Hyla]

He definitely did not say "first" Cornell goal, as I would have expected.

Our first goal is announced as "The Cornell goal..." not "The first Cornell goal..."

Agree and that's how I heard it.

[Trotsky]

Despite the loss, Cornell improves in PWR from 17(t) to 15.

[ACM]

I thought the 2nd ND goal resulted from a lackadaisical breakout, but also our guy was tripped right in front of our net as the puck was being skated out.  That's how I saw it from section F.  

Funny thing was, I thought I heard the Cornell goal announced with 9 seconds remaining as "Theeeee TYING Cornell goal, scored by . . . ".
I swear he said "tying".  He definitely did not say "first" Cornell goal, as I would have expected.  At first I though "ouch, what an embarrassing misstatement" but then I thought it was deliberate protest.  That 2nd UND goal was BS because it was the direct result a BLATANT penalty (Cornell's lackadaisical play is beside the point if penalties are not being called).
Overall not the most exciting hockey I've seen in Lynah due to UND shutting down and playing pretty good defense, despite our good pressure at the end.

Can anyone else comment if they noticed how the CU goal was announced?

I can. But I won't.

[CKinsland]

Posted by: Oat (---.revip2.asianet.co.th) [ PM ]
Date: January 23, 2010 09:09PM

    Robb
    And an absolutely horrible giveaway in our zone leads to UND's 2nd goal. Ugh. D'agostino brought it out way too casually from behind our net and the Sioux player just picked him clean from behind.
     


Was it a "clean" pick? I didn't see it, but Greening immediately rushed to the referee after the goal and then Schafer argued for a while.

No it was not a clean pick. Terrible no call. The whole rink, Cornell bench and coaches were in uproar over it. I'm going to look at the Redcast, but a terrible way to end a good game. Yes, again they outplayed us, they have better players than we do; but to take the wind out of our sails that way was terrible.

I had two NoDak fans sitting next to me and they looked rather embarrassed at that goal.  Both agreed it was a blatant penalty and should have been called (though, of course, they were pleased to score).

CK

[ithacat]

Posted by: Oat (---.revip2.asianet.co.th) [ PM ]
Date: January 23, 2010 09:09PM

    Robb
    And an absolutely horrible giveaway in our zone leads to UND's 2nd goal. Ugh. D'agostino brought it out way too casually from behind our net and the Sioux player just picked him clean from behind.
     


Was it a "clean" pick? I didn't see it, but Greening immediately rushed to the referee after the goal and then Schafer argued for a while.

No it was not a clean pick. Terrible no call. The whole rink, Cornell bench and coaches were in uproar over it. I'm going to look at the Redcast, but a terrible way to end a good game. Yes, again they outplayed us, they have better players than we do; but to take the wind out of our sails that way was terrible.

I had two NoDak fans sitting next to me and they looked rather embarrassed at that goal.  Both agreed it was a blatant penalty and should have been called (though, of course, they were pleased to score).

CK

Shame to have the game decided in that way. I didn't have the best view from C, but it sure looked like a trip.

[billhoward]

Too bad we didn't have TWC coverage Saturday night with its replay-for-the-viewers capability. Our grief would be more manageable knowing it could have been a 1-1 tie.

[CUontheslopes]

Posted by: Oat (---.revip2.asianet.co.th) [ PM ]
Date: January 23, 2010 09:09PM

    Robb
    And an absolutely horrible giveaway in our zone leads to UND's 2nd goal. Ugh. D'agostino brought it out way too casually from behind our net and the Sioux player just picked him clean from behind.
     


Was it a "clean" pick? I didn't see it, but Greening immediately rushed to the referee after the goal and then Schafer argued for a while.

No it was not a clean pick. Terrible no call. The whole rink, Cornell bench and coaches were in uproar over it. I'm going to look at the Redcast, but a terrible way to end a good game. Yes, again they outplayed us, they have better players than we do; but to take the wind out of our sails that way was terrible.

I had two NoDak fans sitting next to me and they looked rather embarrassed at that goal.  Both agreed it was a blatant penalty and should have been called (though, of course, they were pleased to score).

CK

Shame to have the game decided in that way. I didn't have the best view from C, but it sure looked like a trip.

Have to agree - one of the more blatant no-calls I've seen in a long time. It appeared as if the ND player grabbed the CU player from behind by the scruff of his neck and hauled him down - almost like a horsecollar. It was quick, but obvious.

[Jim Hyla]

Posted by: Oat (---.revip2.asianet.co.th) [ PM ]
Date: January 23, 2010 09:09PM

    Robb
    And an absolutely horrible giveaway in our zone leads to UND's 2nd goal. Ugh. D'agostino brought it out way too casually from behind our net and the Sioux player just picked him clean from behind.
     


Was it a "clean" pick? I didn't see it, but Greening immediately rushed to the referee after the goal and then Schafer argued for a while.

No it was not a clean pick. Terrible no call. The whole rink, Cornell bench and coaches were in uproar over it. I'm going to look at the Redcast, but a terrible way to end a good game. Yes, again they outplayed us, they have better players than we do; but to take the wind out of our sails that way was terrible.

Have to agree - one of the more blatant no-calls I've seen in a long time. It appeared as if the ND player grabbed the CU player from behind by the scruff of his neck and hauled him down - almost like a horsecollar. It was quick, but obvious.

I had two NoDak fans sitting next to me and they looked rather embarrassed at that goal.  Both agreed it was a blatant penalty and should have been called (though, of course, they were pleased to score).

CK

Shame to have the game decided in that way. I didn't have the best view from C, but it sure looked like a trip.

? This was a good post the first time, but did it have to be repeated?::pop::