Cornell 0 at Penn 34 football postgame, Cornell post-season

[ugarte]

Soooooo.....Is Knowles record better than the Princeton coach?::wtf::

I suspected not; that was my point.

[TimV]

Soooooo.....Is Knowles record better than the Princeton coach?::wtf::

I suspected not; that was my point.

I thought your point was to give him a couple more seasons. Maybe we can get to the point where per game attendance falls below hockey. Or maybe even Wrestling.::scream::

[ugarte]

Soooooo.....Is Knowles record better than the Princeton coach?::wtf::

I suspected not; that was my point.

I thought your point was to give him a couple more seasons. Maybe we can get to the point where per game attendance falls below hockey. Or maybe even Wrestling.::scream::

Well, I was making two points. The first being that I am sure he is on thin ice because a more successful coach just got fired. The second was that I don't want Cornell to be the kind of place that only looks at win%. I'd understand if he got fired, and I wouldn't even be all that upset, but I wouldn't complain if he were given a few more years, no.

[CUontheslopes]

Soooooo.....Is Knowles record better than the Princeton coach?::wtf::

I suspected not; that was my point.

I thought your point was to give him a couple more seasons. Maybe we can get to the point where per game attendance falls below hockey. Or maybe even Wrestling.::scream::

Well, I was making two points. The first being that I am sure he is on thin ice because a more successful coach just got fired. The second was that I don't want Cornell to be the kind of place that only looks at win%. I'd understand if he got fired, and I wouldn't even be all that upset, but I wouldn't complain if he were given a few more years, no.

What else would you look at beside win percentage? C'mon...it's not like we have a problem with people leaving early for the NFL or not graduating. It's all about the wins and losses. As I've said numerous times on this board, he's a great guy, a nice guy and had some early success. That said - it's time for him to go. This is a business - he's not winning, he should be out. It's not like he's packing the stadium and losing. The stadium's empty and the team is awful to watch - really just no fun to go to games of recent. Enough of this touchy-feely it's not about wins and losses bullcrap. This is sports. Play to win. He's had his shot and despite his best efforts unfortunately failed. Time for him to step aside and give someone else a chance.

[ugarte]

Soooooo.....Is Knowles record better than the Princeton coach?::wtf::

I suspected not; that was my point.

I thought your point was to give him a couple more seasons. Maybe we can get to the point where per game attendance falls below hockey. Or maybe even Wrestling.::scream::

Well, I was making two points. The first being that I am sure he is on thin ice because a more successful coach just got fired. The second was that I don't want Cornell to be the kind of place that only looks at win%. I'd understand if he got fired, and I wouldn't even be all that upset, but I wouldn't complain if he were given a few more years, no.

What else would you look at beside win percentage? C'mon...it's not like we have a problem with people leaving early for the NFL or not graduating. It's all about the wins and losses. As I've said numerous times on this board, he's a great guy, a nice guy and had some early success. That said - it's time for him to go. This is a business - he's not winning, he should be out. It's not like he's packing the stadium and losing. The stadium's empty and the team is awful to watch - really just no fun to go to games of recent. Enough of this touchy-feely it's not about wins and losses bullcrap. This is sports. Play to win. He's had his shot and despite his best efforts unfortunately failed. Time for him to step aside and give someone else a chance.

Well, it is a business but it is mostly a SCHOOL. If he is at the end of his contract then I could see not renewing him. If he isn't, I can't see eating the balance.

[Jim Hyla]

Soooooo.....Is Knowles record better than the Princeton coach?::wtf::

I suspected not; that was my point.

I thought your point was to give him a couple more seasons. Maybe we can get to the point where per game attendance falls below hockey. Or maybe even Wrestling.::scream::

Well, I was making two points. The first being that I am sure he is on thin ice because a more successful coach just got fired. The second was that I don't want Cornell to be the kind of place that only looks at win%. I'd understand if he got fired, and I wouldn't even be all that upset, but I wouldn't complain if he were given a few more years, no.

What else would you look at beside win percentage? C'mon...it's not like we have a problem with people leaving early for the NFL or not graduating. It's all about the wins and losses. As I've said numerous times on this board, he's a great guy, a nice guy and had some early success. That said - it's time for him to go. This is a business - he's not winning, he should be out. It's not like he's packing the stadium and losing. The stadium's empty and the team is awful to watch - really just no fun to go to games of recent. Enough of this touchy-feely it's not about wins and losses bullcrap. This is sports. Play to win. He's had his shot and despite his best efforts unfortunately failed. Time for him to step aside and give someone else a chance.

Well, it is a business but it is mostly a SCHOOL. If he is at the end of his contract then I could see not renewing him. If he isn't, I can't see eating the balance.

I can. I'm a season ticket holder who didn't go to a game this year. It wasn't worth the gas to get there. Yes there were a couple of games that I wanted to go to, mainly to see friends; but I couldn't. However I wasn't going to go to the others just to see misery.

Yes, we're a SCHOOL, and SCHOOLS are supposedly striving for excellence; WE ARE NOT!

[Rosey]

Yes, we're a SCHOOL, and SCHOOLS are supposedly striving for excellence; WE ARE NOT!

If only we could get a "Bitch-Carroll" to coach at Cornell: smart enough to defeat the rest of the league with ease, but retarded enough to want to coach Ivy League football.

[Jim Hyla]

Yes, we're a SCHOOL, and SCHOOLS are supposedly striving for excellence; WE ARE NOT!

If only we could get a "Bitch-Carroll" to coach at Cornell: smart enough to defeat the rest of the league with ease, but retarded enough to want to coach Ivy League football.

Well, we did have someone close to that once, he just had Clintonitis.::wank::

And what's with the pix?

[Rosey]

Well, we did have someone close to that once, he just had Clintonitis.::wank::

You're going to have to explain this one to me.

And what's with the pix?

The avatar?  Me on board the Kruzenshtern when it was moored up in Boston earlier this year.  I just happened to be wearing my Cornell hockey t-shirt and hat.

[Jim Hyla]

Well, we did have someone close to that once, he just had Clintonitis.::wank::

You're going to have to explain this one to me.

Well Maxie Baughan was the closest to a good coach who seemed to enjoy just being in the Ivy League. Of course the reason he wanted to stay in Ithaca may have had more to do with extracurricular affairs than football.

And what's with the pix?

The avatar?  Me on board the Kruzenshtern when it was moored up in Boston earlier this year.  I just happened to be wearing my Cornell hockey t-shirt and hat.

I should have been nicer in my question, I like it.

[Jim Hyla]

Well I just noticed we've gotten 6 on the All-Ivy teams. By quick count that's 6 out of 91.::cuss::

[Rosey]

Well Maxie Baughan was the closest to a good coach who seemed to enjoy just being in the Ivy League. Of course the reason he wanted to stay in Ithaca may have had more to do with extracurricular affairs than football.

Ah, found this: http://www.nytimes.com/1989/04/28/sports/sports-people-football-cornell-picks-coach.html
That explains it. :-)

I should have been nicer in my question, I like it.

Thank you.  I didn't read your response snarkily: I just wasn't sure if that's what you were referring to.

[Jim Hyla]

Well Maxie Baughan was the closest to a good coach who seemed to enjoy just being in the Ivy League. Of course the reason he wanted to stay in Ithaca may have had more to do with extracurricular affairs than football.

Ah, found this: http://www.nytimes.com/1989/04/28/sports/sports-people-football-cornell-picks-coach.html
That explains it. :-)

Yeah, I guess I should have explained it more. I forget not everyone is as old as me.

[David Harding]

Well Maxie Baughan was the closest to a good coach who seemed to enjoy just being in the Ivy League. Of course the reason he wanted to stay in Ithaca may have had more to do with extracurricular affairs than football.

Ah, found this: http://www.nytimes.com/1989/04/28/sports/sports-people-football-cornell-picks-coach.html
That explains it. :-)

Yeah, I guess I should have explained it more. I forget not everyone is as old as me.

Hey, I even remember when "Laine [sic] Kennedy" was playing.

[jkahn]

In a related note to the football coaching situation:
Marc Trestman, a finalist for the Cornell coaching position last time around, is now head coach of the Montreal Alouettes, who won the Grey Cup this weekend.  
http://cornellsun.com/node/10751