Cornell 5 - 1 Dartmouth; Final

Started by imafrshmn, November 06, 2009, 06:38:33 PM

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judy

Quote from: imafrshmnYale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.

so we're the only Ivy that won

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: judy
Quote from: imafrshmnYale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.

so we're the only Ivy that won

Brown was leading Union...

Rita

Quote from: billhowardWith a name like Esposito, how can you not be a scorer?

So do we borrow from the 70's Boston slogan "Jesus Saves, Esposito scores on the Rebound"?

And I'm ok with replacing Jesus with our goalie of the night. **]

judy

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: judy
Quote from: imafrshmnYale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.

so we're the only Ivy that won

Brown was leading Union...

I totally forgot about them.

ithacat

Quote from: tretiakPer the rulebook:
 Penalty - Minor or major or disqualification at the discretion of the referee. Contact to the head shall be assessed in front of the infraction (ie: contact to the head - elbow).

The Dartmouth player didn't avoid the big hit, but everything else was clean. That was not a roughing penalty. Also, remember that Jillson is small so his head was on the level with the Dartmouth player's shoulder. On a bang-bang play like that, I have no problem with a non-call. It looked clean. If I'm on the Cornell bench, I'm pissed that he went for the KO on a defenseless player. By referencing the OHL, I'm assuming you're talking about the player who was suspended for the year for the contact to the head - boarding hit?

C'mon...contact to the head is contact to the head. Good grief.

cbuckser

Quote from: ithacat
Quote from: tretiakPer the rulebook:
 Penalty - Minor or major or disqualification at the discretion of the referee. Contact to the head shall be assessed in front of the infraction (ie: contact to the head - elbow).

The Dartmouth player didn't avoid the big hit, but everything else was clean. That was not a roughing penalty. Also, remember that Jillson is small so his head was on the level with the Dartmouth player's shoulder. On a bang-bang play like that, I have no problem with a non-call. It looked clean. If I'm on the Cornell bench, I'm pissed that he went for the KO on a defenseless player. By referencing the OHL, I'm assuming you're talking about the player who was suspended for the year for the contact to the head - boarding hit?

C'mon...contact to the head is contact to the head. Good grief.

The rule is straightforward:  "A player shall not make contact with an opposing player's head or neck area in any manner."

The referee has discretion regarding the severity of the penalty.  Because Estoclet did not appear to be head-hunting, I don't think he should have received a DQ.  But, contact to the head plus shoulder or chest is still contact to the head.
Craig Buckser '94

Josh '99

Well, I find it just shocking that a game against a Bob Gaudet team had a ton of penalties.
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-Ben Rocky 04

sah67

Quote from: Josh '99Well, I find it just shocking that a game against a Bob Gaudet team had a ton of penalties.

Bob is shocked as well.

(credit to MHA for the photo)

lhayes

Can anyone explain what happened with the Kennedy and R Nash penalties at 12:32 of the 2nd period?  At 12:06, Gallagher and Bourgea had gone off with matching minors, leaving us at 4 a side.  At 12:32, Kennedy and Nash went off for holding and slashing, respectively.  Since we can't have fewer than 3 players (and the scoreboard only has room for 2 penalties a side), they only put Kennedy's penalty on the scoreboard.  I assumed that meant that R Nash's penalty time wouldn't start til after Gallagher got out, and we'd then be 5 on 3 until Kennedy got sprung.  But we were never 5 on 3, Riley's penalty was never on the scoreboard, and Riley was out of the box before Kennedy.  What was up?  Thanks.

Trotsky

Quote from: judy
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: judy
Quote from: imafrshmnYale, Princeton, and Harvard all lost tonight.... wow.

so we're the only Ivy that won

Brown was leading Union...

I totally forgot about them.

They tied anyway.  We're the only Ivy that won.

Trotsky

Quote from: sah67When was the last time we scored three goals in the third period?

1/24/2009 Brown, 19 games ago.

redice

Quote from: sah67Bob is shocked as well.

(credit to MHA for the photo)

Should we start a caption discussion for that picture.

I vote for "Bob needs a hug!!"

Not original....   But, it is fitting
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Dpperk29

Quote from: lhayesCan anyone explain what happened with the Kennedy and R Nash penalties at 12:32 of the 2nd period?  At 12:06, Gallagher and Bourgea had gone off with matching minors, leaving us at 4 a side.  At 12:32, Kennedy and Nash went off for holding and slashing, respectively.  Since we can't have fewer than 3 players (and the scoreboard only has room for 2 penalties a side), they only put Kennedy's penalty on the scoreboard.  I assumed that meant that R Nash's penalty time wouldn't start til after Gallagher got out, and we'd then be 5 on 3 until Kennedy got sprung.  But we were never 5 on 3, Riley's penalty was never on the scoreboard, and Riley was out of the box before Kennedy.  What was up?  Thanks.

There was ~35 seconds of 5 x 3 after the matching minors expired and before the Nash penalty expired. Nash's penalty went on the scoreboard as soon as the penalties were called and Kennedy's penalty appeared on the board (and started) as soon as Gallagher's ended.

Really, cornell got lucky in that case that the NCAA likes to play 4 x 4 hockey instead of 5 x 5 with matching minors. the 4 x 4 prevented Cornell from having to play down 2 men for 2 minutes instead of 35 seconds.
"That damn bell at Clarkson." -Ken Dryden in reference to his hatred for the Clarkson Bell.

jkahn

Quote from: lhayesCan anyone explain what happened with the Kennedy and R Nash penalties at 12:32 of the 2nd period?  At 12:06, Gallagher and Bourgea had gone off with matching minors, leaving us at 4 a side.  At 12:32, Kennedy and Nash went off for holding and slashing, respectively.  Since we can't have fewer than 3 players (and the scoreboard only has room for 2 penalties a side), they only put Kennedy's penalty on the scoreboard.  I assumed that meant that R Nash's penalty time wouldn't start til after Gallagher got out, and we'd then be 5 on 3 until Kennedy got sprung.  But we were never 5 on 3, Riley's penalty was never on the scoreboard, and Riley was out of the box before Kennedy.  What was up?  Thanks.
I was watching on Redcast, but here's what I think I saw which is also what should've happened:
First, of the two, they ran Riley's penalty before Kennedy. So from 12:32 to 14:06 it's 4 vs. 3.  Bourgea comes out but since Kennedy's penalty starts as Gallagher's ends, Gallagher can't come out as it's 5 vs. 3.  That lasts only 26 seconds and when Riley's penalty ends we get a man back and it's 5 vs. 4 for another 1:34.
It seemed to me it was 5 vs. 3 for a short time, but if that didn't happen,then someone blew it and let a Cornell player out early.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

Jim Hyla

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Quote from: lhayesCan anyone explain what happened with the Kennedy and R Nash penalties at 12:32 of the 2nd period?  At 12:06, Gallagher and Bourgea had gone off with matching minors, leaving us at 4 a side.  At 12:32, Kennedy and Nash went off for holding and slashing, respectively.  Since we can't have fewer than 3 players (and the scoreboard only has room for 2 penalties a side), they only put Kennedy's penalty on the scoreboard.  I assumed that meant that R Nash's penalty time wouldn't start til after Gallagher got out, and we'd then be 5 on 3 until Kennedy got sprung.  But we were never 5 on 3, Riley's penalty was never on the scoreboard, and Riley was out of the box before Kennedy.  What was up?  Thanks.
I was watching on Redcast, but here's what I think I saw which is also what should've happened:
First, of the two, they ran Riley's penalty before Kennedy. So from 12:32 to 14:06 it's 4 vs. 3.  Bourgea comes out but since Kennedy's penalty starts as Gallagher's ends, Gallagher can't come out as it's 5 vs. 3.  That lasts only 26 seconds and when Riley's penalty ends we get a man back and it's 5 vs. 4 for another 1:34.
It seemed to me it was 5 vs. 3 for a short time, but if that didn't happen,then someone blew it and let a Cornell player out early.
And it seemed to me that we got to pick which man was first out. After the guys were in the box, Greening was talking to the officials and it looked like he asked if he could go to the penalty box. He did and I'm assuming he told them Riley would be first out . I'm remembering that Kennedy's penalty was put on the board first as I was surprised when Riley came out and they changed the number on the board back to Kennedy. I was assuming that since Kennedy was called first he would serve first. I guess we'll have to wait and hear what happened from the team.
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