[LAX] Final Four score updates Cornell v. UVA

ben03 · May 23, 2009, 01:50:49 PM

So SU is going to play for the NC on Monday.

17 SU
7 Duke
Final

Now the game that apparently no one thinks we have a shot at winning ... Let's go Red!!!

15 Cornell
6 UVA
Final

ben03 · May 23, 2009, 02:01:49 PM

getting kinda chippy ... SU's taken some overly aggressive penalties. Duke still hasn't shown up.

SU 15-7
~10min to go in 4th

Jacob '06 · May 23, 2009, 02:03:10 PM

I don't know if anyone else caught this, but earlier in the game they were talking about how Quinzani banned the other players on the team from bringing their books along on the trip to study. The announcers didn't seem to think this was a big deal, but I think that is terrible. So much for the whole student-athlete thing.

DeltaOne81 · May 23, 2009, 02:10:01 PM

When does this start becoming bad sportsmanship?

ben03 · May 23, 2009, 02:16:18 PM

[quote DeltaOne81]When does this start becoming bad sportsmanship?[/quote]
Fred,

Are you taking about the (1) score or (2) the continued unnecessary penalties Duke keeps taking?

Answer: (1) now. stop shooting and put in the reserves. (2) now. stop taking cheap shots when SU guys don't have the ball.

ben03 · May 23, 2009, 02:17:22 PM

SU 17-7
~3 min to play 4th

Greenberg '97 · May 23, 2009, 02:19:41 PM

Probably looking at a 3:00 start. Hope everyone DVR'ed accordingly.

DeltaOne81 · May 23, 2009, 02:19:55 PM

Ben, you make a fair point on both.

I was specifically thinking of Syracuse continuing to shoot with a 10 goal lead and 4-5 minutes left. But the penalties by Duke aren't any better.

ben03 · May 23, 2009, 02:22:02 PM

nothing good about the 4th qrt of this game. penalties upon penalties for both teams.

17 SU
7 Duke
Final

Greenberg '97 · May 23, 2009, 02:30:05 PM

The thing is, the stall rule kind of encourages shooting in these games. The higher the score, the more likely for the refs to issue a stall warning. Once a stall warning is issued, a possession either ends with a shot or a turnover. You might as well take the shot.

Beeeej · May 23, 2009, 02:36:23 PM

ESPN2 has "Cornell defeated Virginia 14-10 in regular season on March 8" emblazoned across the bottom of the screen as they talk about Virginia's 14-10 regular season defeat of Cornell and what it means for today. Way to pay attention to detail, guys.

Greenberg '97 · May 23, 2009, 02:37:20 PM

They might want to remove that "2 ET" text as well.

ben03 · May 23, 2009, 02:39:55 PM

[quote Greenberg '97]The thing is, the stall rule kind of encourages shooting in these games. The higher the score, the more likely for the refs to issue a stall warning. Once a stall warning is issued, a possession either ends with a shot or a turnover. You might as well take the shot.[/quote]

agreed ... this is a touchy subject. IMHO, it depends on the team that is losing. if they are aggressively playing the ball and/or taking stupid or unnecessary penalties (see Duke today) it leaves the winning team no real choice but to shoot running it up even more. in stark contrast, last week Hopkins had thrown in the towel with around 5-6 minutes to play and UVA was still taking them to the goal with their starters until ~3 minutes to go. so SU could have stopped shooting, no question but they did put in the reserves at a reasonable time in the 4th.

Greenberg '97 · May 23, 2009, 04:57:19 PM

[quote ben03][quote Greenberg '97]The thing is, the stall rule kind of encourages shooting in these games. The higher the score, the more likely for the refs to issue a stall warning. Once a stall warning is issued, a possession either ends with a shot or a turnover. You might as well take the shot.[/quote]

agreed ... this is a touchy subject. IMHO, it depends on the team that is losing. if they are aggressively playing the ball and/or taking stupid or unnecessary penalties (see Duke today) it leaves the winning team no real choice but to shoot running it up even more. in stark contrast, last week Hopkins had thrown in the towel with around 5-6 minutes to play and UVA was still taking them to the goal with their starters until ~3 minutes to go. so SU could have stopped shooting, no question but they did put in the reserves at a reasonable time in the 4th.[/quote]

OK, now you be Tambroni. Do you shut it down at 13-6 with 10 minutes to go. No frickin' way. This is a game until it's over.

French Rage · May 23, 2009, 04:58:37 PM

[quote Greenberg '97][quote ben03][quote Greenberg '97]The thing is, the stall rule kind of encourages shooting in these games. The higher the score, the more likely for the refs to issue a stall warning. Once a stall warning is issued, a possession either ends with a shot or a turnover. You might as well take the shot.[/quote]

agreed ... this is a touchy subject. IMHO, it depends on the team that is losing. if they are aggressively playing the ball and/or taking stupid or unnecessary penalties (see Duke today) it leaves the winning team no real choice but to shoot running it up even more. in stark contrast, last week Hopkins had thrown in the towel with around 5-6 minutes to play and UVA was still taking them to the goal with their starters until ~3 minutes to go. so SU could have stopped shooting, no question but they did put in the reserves at a reasonable time in the 4th.[/quote]

OK, now you be Tambroni. Do you shut it down at 13-6 with 10 minutes to go. No frickin' way. This is a game until it's over.[/quote]

But no one could ever come back from a 7 goal deficit in a national semifinal!