NC$$ games Friday 3/27/09

[Larry72]

UMD 5-4 over Princeton on PPG.  Poor Princeton.

[ansky629]

UMD finishes Princeton in overtime 5-4.  Got a PP goal about 14 minutes in.  Pretty pass across the crease and Kalemba had no chance.  

And then there was 1.  Too bad - Kalemba deserves better (other than not covering that puck).

[Rosey]

I'm betting Kalemba feels pretty fucking lousy right now: it's really easy to blame him for this loss, given the idiocy he displayed in the final 10 seconds of regulation.

Oh, well: Cornell is the final hope of the EZAC this year.

[trainbow]

[quote Larry72]UMD 5-4 over Princeton on PPG.  Poor Princeton.[/quote]

The Princeton radio announcer didn't even make a final comment about the game; just signed off to a program already in progress.  Heartbreaking.

[scoop85]

One of the most crushing defeats I've ever seen in any sport at any level. I'm just glad it wasn't my team :-P

[ursusminor]

[quote marty][quote Trotsky][quote jtwcornell91]What, no love for the RPI fight song?[/quote]

I can't remember it.  I do like their alma mater, though.[/quote]

I wrote a parody of this many years ago when I thought there weren't any words.  Some of the RIP alums took umbrage, but I thought the parody was a bit more fun than this:


    Hail, dear old Rensselaer, the college of our heart.
    For dear old Rensselaer, we all must do our part.
    True to old Rensselaer, we'll always strive to be.
    Now, dear old Rensselaer, hail to thee.

    Hear the tramp, tramp, tramp of marching feet.
    Hear the rat-tat-tat of drums that beat.
    Hear the voices ringing loud and sweet.
    Hear that mighty shout of ...

    Hail, dear old Rensselaer, the college of our heart.
    For dear old Rensselaer, we all must do our part.
    True to old Rensselaer, we'll always strive to be.
    Now, dear old Rensselaer, hail to thee.[/quote]

The non-PC version original version

Hail, Dear Old Rensselaer
Words & Music by Charles S. Root '34

Hail, dear old Rensselaer, the college of our heart.
For dear old Rensselaer, each man must do his part.
True sons of Rensselaer, we'll always strive to be.
Now, dear old Rensselaer, hail to thee.

Hear the tramp, tramp, tramp of marching feet.
Hear the rat-tat-tat of drums that beat.
Hear the voices ringing loud and sweet.
Hear that mighty shout of...

Hail, dear old Rensselaer, the college of our heart.
For dear old Rensselaer, each man must do his part.
True sons of Rensselaer, we'll always strive to be.
Now, dear old Rensselaer, hail to thee.

mpeg: http://pepband.union.rpi.edu/music/LongHail.mp3

[Jim Hyla]

[quote Kyle Rose]I'm betting Kalemba feels pretty fucking lousy right now: it's really easy to blame him for this loss, given the idiocy he displayed in the final 10 seconds of regulation.

Oh, well: Cornell is the final hope of the EZAC this year.[/quote]Actually I think he made the right play. The last thing you want with a couple of seconds left is a face off in your defensive zone. You want the clock to keep running. Your defense should be better able to tie up the puck behind the net, or fire it out of the zone, rather than give it up on a face off with a chance of a good shot oh goal.


I seem to remember us having been able to win a critical game by a late offensive face off win, and a shot from out front.

The blame should be to the defense, if anywhere.

[jkahn]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Kyle Rose]I'm betting Kalemba feels pretty fucking lousy right now: it's really easy to blame him for this loss, given the idiocy he displayed in the final 10 seconds of regulation.

Oh, well: Cornell is the final hope of the EZAC this year.[/quote]Actually I think he made the right play. The last thing you want with a couple of seconds left is a face off in your defensive zone. You want the clock to keep running. Your defense should be better able to tie up the puck behind the net, or fire it out of the zone, rather than give it up on a face off with a chance of a good shot oh goal.


I seem to remember us having been able to win a critical game by a late offensive face off win, and a shot from out front.

The blame should be to the defense, if anywhere.[/quote]
Jim, I had the same thoughts.  Had ugly flasbackbacks to that faceoff in our end with 5 seconds left, 36 years ago.  If they win in regulation, everyone would say Kalemba made the right play.  Don't know if one one was much better than the other.  It comes down to execution afterward.

[ugarte]

[quote Jim Hyla]Actually I think he made the right play. The last thing you want with a couple of seconds left is a face off in your defensive zone. You want the clock to keep running. Your defense should be better able to tie up the puck behind the net, or fire it out of the zone, rather than give it up on a face off with a chance of a good shot oh goal.


I seem to remember us having been able to win a critical game by a late offensive face off win, and a shot from out front.

The blame should be to the defense, if anywhere.[/quote]
I didn't see the toss into the corner, so I don't know if he threw the puck on a Bulldog stick, but I don't think he wanted a faceoff. I immediately thought of the ECAC final in 2003. The play didn't start with 5 seconds left but it definitely didn't TAKE 5 seconds.

[Jordan 04]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Kyle Rose]I'm betting Kalemba feels pretty fucking lousy right now: it's really easy to blame him for this loss, given the idiocy he displayed in the final 10 seconds of regulation.

Oh, well: Cornell is the final hope of the EZAC this year.[/quote]Actually I think he made the right play. The last thing you want with a couple of seconds left is a face off in your defensive zone. You want the clock to keep running. Your defense should be better able to tie up the puck behind the net, or fire it out of the zone, rather than give it up on a face off with a chance of a good shot oh goal.


I seem to remember us having been able to win a critical game by a late offensive face off win, and a shot from out front.

The blame should be to the defense, if anywhere.[/quote]

But the defense has to be there to have the opportunity t tie it up. They weren't; he threw it away with total disregard for who was in the area or streaking towards the area.

It's too bad; it would have been nice for a couple of Ivy's to advance.

[HockeyMan]

[quote ugarte][quote Jim Hyla]Actually I think he made the right play. The last thing you want with a couple of seconds left is a face off in your defensive zone. You want the clock to keep running. Your defense should be better able to tie up the puck behind the net, or fire it out of the zone, rather than give it up on a face off with a chance of a good shot oh goal.


I seem to remember us having been able to win a critical game by a late offensive face off win, and a shot from out front.

The blame should be to the defense, if anywhere.[/quote]
I didn't see the toss into the corner, so I don't know if he threw the puck on a Bulldog stick, but I don't think he wanted a faceoff. I immediately thought of the ECAC final in 2003. The play didn't start with 5 seconds left but it definitely didn't TAKE 5 seconds.[/quote]

I have to disagree.  It's one thing to do this if the forecheckers are relatively far away; it's another to do it--as was the case here--if they're right there with your d-men.  There would have been four seconds or less on the clock if he had held on for the faceoff.  The chances of any team scoring in that situation is 1 in 200, at best.  He made the wrong play.

[DeltaOne81]

[quote HockeyMan]
I have to disagree.  It's one thing to do this if the forecheckers are relatively far away; it's another to do it--as was the case here--if they're right there with your d-men.  There would have been four seconds or less on the clock if he had held on for the faceoff.  The chances of any team scoring in that situation is 1 in 200, at best.  He made the wrong play.[/quote]

But what's the odds of a team scoring with the puck behind the next with 4 seconds left? Even if its put right on their stick. 1 in 199?

[jtwcornell91]

So, to summarize, Yale pulled a Clarkson and Princeton pulled a Harvard.  Now I guess it's up for us to pull a Cornell, i.e., fall behind to Northeastern, come back and win it, then take Notre Dame to overtime before losing.

[DeltaOne81]

So its now been how many years since an ECAC team other than Cornell won an NCAA game?

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote DeltaOne81]So its now been how many years since an ECAC team other than Cornell won an NCAA game?[/quote]
One.  Clarkson beat perennial NCAA loser St. Cloud last year in the first round before losing to Michigan.