Colgate's Band

[Tub(a)]

The reason for changing from the "Red Raiders" to the "Raiders" was not an epiphany that indeed their color was Maroon, but a concern over the un-PC term "Red."

[rhovorka]

[Q]I'm inviting them to join in on a rivalry they dropped out of 20 years ago, to pursue "bigger fish". Hasn't gotten them very far.[/Q]
Yep.  I love when Al, Jim, and the other guys from the '60s and '70s talk about that age old rivalry with Colgate.  That was a rivalry to end all rivalries.  Those historic games at the Garden when Cornell locked horns with Colgate, just about a yearly battle was much anticipated with Colgat.....oh wait, no.  I'm thinking of BU, Clarkson, and (yes) Harvard.  Colgate and Cornell have only met in the playoffs 3 times: 1981, 1991, and 1996.  Not exactly big-rivalry frequency.

Frankly in spite of that, I put Colgate as #3 on my ECAC rivalry list, after Harvard/Clarkson.  RPI is right up there also.  The mid-'90s saw some very memorable Colgate-Cornell battles, and the turnout from Hamilton filled Section O with some very roudy fans.  Not counting the bad apples that hocked loogies at fans walking by the Colgate fan-bus, and the laser-pointer incident at Starr, it was always good fan-interaction at Lynah from the Colgate side...2nd only to Clarkson.  I don't think Colgate brought a band very often, and it's too bad that there was a mix-up for this year.

[Ben Doyle 03]

I was told that Athletics didn't want to have to clean up all the Jack Daniels and Jim Beam bottles.  Mix-up. . .there ain't no stinking mix-up.::rolleyes::

[jtwcornell91]

Actually, this reads a lot like a Cornell football fan's pleas to Penn to forget about Princeton and hate us again.  But he does get extra points for using "couldn't care less" correctly.

[Jill]

Alright folks.  First of all, being wusses when it comes to alcohol consumption is nothing to be ashamed of, so stop calling us names and chill.  Second, I think you are all confused about the point of the 'Red' conversation.  Third, man are you SO COOL to get into our e-mail conversations and post them on your website.  Honestly, do you have anyone else to annoy?  Fourth, I know you are just making fun of the invitation to rival because you are scared to rematch in the future.  See you Thursday!!! :-))

[Ben Doyle 03]

Here's an idea. . .when you get a team that can win some games other than Princeton, Holy Cross and RPI. . .we'll think about a rivalry.:-P

[Chips \'03]

Me? I likey the other bands. I hate various teams (Harvard, and Dartmouth since I've been here have personally been the big two), but come one, the bands are pretty low in the pecking order. I mean, hell, small children throw condiments on us and rarely does a roadtrip go by without someone standing behind a conductor and swinging their arms in mockery. I remember last year, someone from Clarkson tried to propose an "All ECAC Band Olympics" that was just too surreal for words. I just found the fact that someone sent our manager a ton of the e-mails quite funny. I have every intent in yelling my brains out at the team, but the band...? Eh. Bands get enough shit without them picking on each other.

Of course, there is that Weder thing, lest anyone forget.
-smirk-

[jtwcornell91]

How about defaming the game by playing your stupid drums over it?  (I think the high point for reciprocating your hatred for us came in the 2000 ECAC consolation game; Rich, who was en route back from Cali at the time, can fill you in on my colorful description of events.)

[rhovorka]

[Q]Eh. Bands get enough shit without them picking on each other.[/Q]Hear, hear.  This is probably the wisest thing said on this thread.

My interaction with other bands when I was a bandie convinced me of one thing...there's a certain type of person that's drawn to the pep band.  We're all cut from different colors of the same cloth, and generally have a good time together when we temporarily put aside our school loyalties.  Inter-band parties certainly show that.

Yes, that's very "Can't we all just get along?" of me, but so be it.  :-)

[APK]

Hey Cornell!

I'm a Colgate bandie, and with all due respect,

a) It's not just Colgate that hates you. (By the way, it's not just the band; the entire school is less than enthusiastic about Cornell).  EVERYONE hates you.  Read your own press history!  Your nickname is 'hooligans with horns'!  Does anyone think that a band with a title like that commands affection and/or respect?  I've heard people from so many different schools comment about how much they dislike you.  Colgate just has more fun with it than most.

b) Why, exactly, is the Cornell pep band claiming on its web page to be the only 'real' pep band in the ECAC?  (I was the one who emailed everyone about that, and I'm not afraid to say so, so the whole deleting names thing was kinda pointless).  Can anyone explain the justification for that particular statement?

c) Okay, honestly (WARNING!  ALMOST SELF-CRITICISM AHEAD!), it would be a bit pathetic for Colgate to get all worked up about this rivalry (ALMOST SELF-CRITICISM ENDS) IF we were actually taking it extremely seriously.  We're getting excited for the hockey game!  We're having fun!  Or do you poor, always-on-the-edge-of-mental-breakdown Cornell xuesheng not understand the meaning of the word?

d) If the beer pong score is so unimportant, why did someone from Cornell write in our website guestbook about how it was so awsome that you beat us?  Just wondering...

e) Yes, we are your travel partner, somewhat.  Check out your schedule...our next away trip is to Brown and Harvard on Feb. 14/15.  Sound familiar?

f) Harvard does not care about you at all.  Neither does Clarkson.  Get over it.

g) Hey Ben!  When did the pep bands become the actual hockey teams?

h) Cornell was my safety school, too.  Sorry, that was a low blow but I couldn't resist.

See you on Thusday!

Ana Kaufmann

[JNB]

Hey Ben, ever been to a football game?  Oh wait, your pep band only plays for hockey and such.  You have a more capable band for football.  Damn good thing, too.

If you'd been to a football game in the last, oh, 6 years, you'd find that Cornell hasn't beaten Colgate once.

Right, right, this is hockey.  However, a certain amount of school pride has also come into the discussion.  Hence, football.

[Jill]

I'd also like to point out your (really embarassing) loss to UNH in basketball.  Last I checked, they were a horrible team.  Good thing for Cornell athletics the hockey team is decent.

[Ben Doyle 03]

Ah. . .been to a lacrosse game in the past 15 years. . .yeah your team still SUCKS!

[JNB]

If we ever stay with the Cornell band again, I'd love to hang out.  There were some good kids there, especially that kid who wore the goggles ... tall kid, aggie major.  Anyway, this is about hockey, and sports in general - and it can get heated.  That's all the rivalry will ever be.  Off the ice, everything's cool as far as I'm concerned

[Jill]

If you could spell lacrosse correctly, I might take that seriously.