Cornell bball loses @ Princeton

[ugarte]

And it wasn't even close: 61-41. Can anyone report on what went wrong?

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote ugarte]And it wasn't even close: 61-41. Can anyone report on what went wrong?[/quote]
Stagnant offense. 14-44 shooting vs. Princeton's 22-44. 2-17 from trey range vs. 8-14.  14 turnovers vs. P's 9.  4 assists vs. P's 12.  Foote essentially a no-show in the first half.  This team has no patterned offense to fall back on when things aren't working.  Closed nine-point half-time gap to 34-31 and were then outscored 27-10 to finish the game.  Dull effort all the way around.

[Chris '03]

Doesn't need it's own thread but video from the Palestra will be on redcast:
http://cornellbigred.com/news/2009/2/7/MBB_0207092421.aspx

[Josh '99]

Good rebound (no pun intended) effort at the Palestra tonight.  Up 44-29 at the half, final margin 88-73.  Blurb on Cornell website says Wittman with 21 points; Dale with 13 points, 9 rebounds and 6 assists.

[Chris '03]

[quote Josh '99]Good rebound (no pun intended) effort at the Palestra tonight.  Up 44-29 at the half, final margin 88-73.  Blurb on Cornell website says Wittman with 21 points; Dale with 13 points, 9 rebounds and 6 assists.[/quote]

Have they over won back to back at the Palestra?

EDIT: I mean against Penn since they lost at the Palestra earlier this year snapping the one game streak.

[billhoward]

And the Cornell crowd came close to matching the size of the Penn crowd, because of the usual fan roundup by the CC Philadelphia plus an influx of outsider Cornellians in town for Cornell Class Officer (CACO) meetings.

We had Penn safely away in the second half, close to a margin of 20, and Penn rallied to cut it to 11 with 3, 3-1/2 to play. Penn misses, Cornell goes the other way, hits a three, and it's a 14-point margin and Penn faded. Lewis Dale has an incredibly smooth shot. Conversely, our big center, Jeff Foote, had 16 points to Dale's 13, but his shots seem more like tosses at the inside rear of the ram. Some clang in, some clang out, and there was a lot less drama when he just stood on tiptoes and dunked.

I remember the Palestra having character. This time, well under half full, it was more like being in the hanger of an old aircraft carrier, only with worse acoustics.

Seeing the basketball game in person last night forced me to postpone watching the Princeton hockey telecast until this afternoon. Gad, what a lousy way to end the weekend.

[Jordan 04]

So in the spirit of arguments in January over being shipped West as a #1 hockey seed, I'm going to get way ahead of myself here:

Where does a tie-breaking game between Princeton and Cornell get played? At one of the schools, or at a neutral site?  (Where I'm headed with this: I wouldn't mind a one-game playoff at Columbia like the women last year).

[CornellFan]

Neutral site.

[Josh '99]

Princeton are undefeated in the Ivy no more; they lost 60-48 in New Haven.

[ugarte]

[quote Josh '99]Princeton are undefeated in the Ivy no more; they lost 60-48 in New Haven.[/quote]
At the same time that we blew out Harvard. Once again Cornell hoops controls its own destiny. As, of course, does Princeton.

[nyc94]

[quote ugarte][quote Josh '99]Princeton are undefeated in the Ivy no more; they lost 60-48 in New Haven.[/quote]
At the same time that we blew out Harvard. Once again Cornell hoops controls its own destiny. As, of course, does Princeton.[/quote]

Fitting that Princeton @ Cornell is the last game of the season.

[CUJacob]

[quote nyc94][quote ugarte][quote Josh '99]Princeton are undefeated in the Ivy no more; they lost 60-48 in New Haven.[/quote]
At the same time that we blew out Harvard. Once again Cornell hoops controls its own destiny. As, of course, does Princeton.[/quote]

Fitting that Princeton @ Cornell is the last game of the season.[/quote]

Its the last game for Cornell, but not for Princeton.  The Tigers end their Ivy season at the Palestra the following Tuesday.

[ugarte]

The Ivies are wacky this year. While Cornell was beating Dartmouth in double OT at home, Princeton lost by 18 in Providence. Brown is now 1-7 in league play.

The current standings:

                Ivy     Overall      
Cornell    7-1   17-7
Princeton   4-2   9-10
Columbia   5-3   10-12
Yale       4-4   9-13
Dartmouth   4-4   6-16
Pennsylvania   3-3   7-13
Harvard           2-6   10-12
Brown           1-7   7-15

This is a weak conference. Cornell wasn't healthy when they played the tough part of their OOC schedule and lost to St. John's, St. Joe's and Indiana - none of which will get at-large bids after they lose in their conference tourneys - and then lost by 20 to Princeton when everyone was back.

Cornell is going to end up as a 15 seed even if they win out.

EDIT: This sounded too negative. It may be hard to tell but I am very happy with this team and their success. I am mostly trying to tamp down my own euphoric expectations from the preseason. I think this team is  BETTER than a 15 seed but they don't deserve to receive any higher than that.

[Chris '03]

[quote ugarte]The Ivies are wacky this year. While Cornell was beating Dartmouth in double OT at home, Princeton lost by 18 in Providence. Brown is now 1-7 in league play.

The current standings:

                Ivy     Overall      
Cornell    7-1   17-7
Princeton   4-2   9-10
Columbia   5-3   10-12
Yale       4-4   9-13
Dartmouth   4-4   6-16
Pennsylvania   3-3   7-13
Harvard           2-6   10-12
Brown           1-7   7-15

[/quote]

Looks like the comeback in the opener at Columbia could end up meaning more than expected at the time. Columbia has done a nice job beating up on everyone else (except PU- thanks, Bruno). It'd be nice to see the C's go 1-2. Lots of hours on the bus ahead for Cornell the next few weeks.

[Josh '99]

[quote ugarte]The Ivies are wacky this year. While Cornell was beating Dartmouth in double OT at home...[/quote]This is odd.  When I checked the score at about 9pm last night, Yahoo told me Cornell had only scored 12 points in the second half and lost the game.  I like the actual result better.