Cornell-Clarkson Postgame Thread

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

[quote Trotsky]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Troll_nicht_fuettern_gruen.png[/quote]

I'd have expected that from Wheelan, but not from you  ::wow::

[Rich S]

Marty,Thanks for the sarcastic response.  As others here would say.."typical."

Had a couple of surgeries between early Nov and mid December (the 2nd was an emergency) and since then less time and energy has not allowed for posting here.  The return has nothing to do with Clarkson's recently improved record.  More focused on work!

Hope those of you who made the trek to the NC last weekend enjoyed the games and eateries.  Jim, I hope the Clarkson band didn't detract from the weekend for you.  Seems like it may have.  Somehow I didn't let the Cornell band spoil my trips to Lynah in recent years.  Buck Up, eh?

Sounds like I may be experiencing Dave's and Sergi's, both in Canton tomn'w night if I get up there early enough.  Have never been to either and am looking fwd to it.

Cheers!

[Rich S]

In both '97 and '99, the two bands engaged in a "battle" in which both played over the other several times including well after the puck had dropped.

Cornell's band chanted tasteless cheers at Section O throughout and made similar gestures.  You can use your imagination.

Band behavior on both sides was better in my two trips to Lynah since then, the last being in the '06 playoffs.  Glad to see that.

I also observed a sizeable portion of "the faithful" cheering after a Clarkson player went down hurt and lay motionless on the ice for awhile in the '99 game.  Very classy.

On the other hand, in '97 when the Clarkson fans in attendance chanted "Hobey Baker" for Todd White, some cornell fans applauded immediately thereafter.  That was a much appreciated if surprising response.

[Rich S]

sorry to disappoint you with the responses.

Sometimes that "can't take it" phrase just fits, as is often the case with the crowd here.  :-)

[JasonN95]

Rich S, it's clear that each school's respective student sections won't be receiving the Lady Byng Trophy anytime soon. I've seen the Clarkson students in your rink in person (although not recently) and in videos and you're not going to convince me that the Cornell student section is worse. You're here to stir the sh!t pot, plain and simple. No Cornell supporter I'm aware of does that on the Clarkson forum, although I admit my knowledge of that is not up-to-date since I stopped going there and trying to contribute when I got fed up with Goldie's absurd posts and vitriol for all things Cornell.

[nyc94]

[quote Rich S]Cornell's band chanted tasteless cheers at Section O throughout and made similar gestures.  You can use your imagination.[/quote]

My imagination hasn't the slightest idea what you consider to be tasteless and/or vulgar.  And it seems rather pointless to bring up examples are over decade old unless you just want to start an argument.

[Rich S]

Profanities and obscene gestures...that should be clear enough.  Heard and saw them as recently as 2006 playoffs, directed at Section O.  Much more recent than a decade ago.

[nyc94]

[quote Rich S]Profanities and obscene gestures...that should be clear enough.  Heard and saw them as recently as 2006 playoffs, directed at Section O.  Much more recent than a decade ago.[/quote]

Seems to me that a large section of people chanting obscenities in 2006 would have been thrown out of the rink.  But I'll take your word for it.

edit: Actually in one of your previous posts your examples were from 1997 and 1999.  And you said "Band behavior on both sides was better in my two trips to Lynah since then, the last being in the '06 playoffs. Glad to see that" so I don't think I was off in pointing out that your examples were quite old.  Now you bring up obscenities in 2006?

[Rich S]

Jason,

Avoiding the Roundtable is your choice, no one there is chasing you away.  If Goldie's posts upset you, they you're thin-skinned.  

The stuff you guys direct at me here doesn't upset me but then, I'm a former goalie so not much does.  :-D

I never claimed that the fans at Cheel were choir boys but having experienced both them and the crowd at Lynah, my opinion is that the latter is more offensive.  

But maybe you should take that as a compliment since y'all think that acting in that manner gets under the skin of the opposing team.

I can tell you from years of watching and reporting that it doesn't except in rare cases.

If you believe I'm here to stir the pot, go ahead.  But that isn't the case and never has been, except for the occasional spar with your choir boy, Al D.  lol...

[Rich S]

The game I attended was so intense on the ice that I wasn't paying any attention to anyone being tossed.  The chants, especially and gestures were hard to miss.

[nyc94]

[quote Rich S]The game I attended was so intense on the ice that I wasn't paying any attention to anyone being tossed.  The chants, especially and gestures were hard to miss.[/quote]

In one of your previous posts your examples were from 1997 and 1999. And you said "Band behavior on both sides was better in my two trips to Lynah since then, the last being in the '06 playoffs. Glad to see that" So I don't think I was off in pointing out that your examples were quite old. Now you bring up obscenities in 2006.  I'm confused.  Again, not saying it didn't happen.

[Rich S]

Sorry for the confusion there.  My bad.

What I meant was that the exchanges between the bands in 2006 playoffs and on my prior vist, (perhaps 2003?) were less in number and in "violation" of the rules than in '97 and '99.

In the playoff game I attended in '06, the stuff directed at spectators in Section O and to a lesser degree the band was clearly audible and visible.  And tasteless as described earlier.  I don't like that from ANY side, regardless of rooting interest.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote JasonN95]No Cornell supporter I'm aware of does that on the Clarkson forum, although I admit my knowledge of that is not up-to-date since I stopped going there and trying to contribute when I got fed up with Goldie's absurd posts and vitriol for all things Cornell.[/quote]

Cornell Albany Alumni Bear is the person I remember doing that, but I haven't seen anything from him anywhere in quite some time.

[oceanst41]

[quote Rich S]Sorry for the confusion there.  My bad.

What I meant was that the exchanges between the bands in 2006 playoffs and on my prior vist, (perhaps 2003?) were less in number and in "violation" of the rules than in '97 and '99.

In the playoff game I attended in '06, the stuff directed at spectators in Section O and to a lesser degree the band was clearly audible and visible.  And tasteless as described earlier.  I don't like that from ANY side, regardless of rooting interest.[/quote]

I was there during those 2006 playoff games, while I don't doubt there were clearly audible and visible tasteless gestures they were by no means organized beyond a select few. Probably the same idiots from the MSU games from earlier in the year. No better or worse than anything I've seen at Cheel.

That is unless "Section O sucks," booing the band, and "We can't hear you" are considering tasteless now. ;-)

[JasonN95]

Goldie didn't upset me, it just wasn't worth my time to wade through Goldie's posts that made up a measurable chunk of the content on the Roundtable and sound like a schoolgirl writing about her favorite boy band.

I disagree that the Cornell students are worse --we each are wearing our own tinted glasses, perhaps. I'm confident though that Clarkson's are ill behaved  enough that you coming onto the Cornell forum to tell us how bad ours are strikes me as audacious unless you saying the same on the Roundtable about your own fans.

And if you're not stirring the pot, what are you here for? Are you posting something that you sincerely think will be interesting to Cornell hockey fans or college hockey fans? Pretty much all I ever see from you are "no I'm/we're not, you are!" posts.