Cornell-Clarkson Postgame Thread

Started by Trotsky, January 31, 2009, 09:41:14 PM

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Trotsky

Cornell has recorded 48 of its 143 shutouts under Schafer.

48 Schafer
37 Harkness
15 Bertrand
13 Bawlf
10 Patten
08 No Coach
05 McCutcheon
04 Reycroft
03 Hunter

(Edited with some data for earlier shutouts)

marty

[quote Trotsky]Cornell has recorded 48 of its 114 shut outs under Schafer.

48 Schafer
31 Harkness
15 Bertrand
10 Patten
05 McCutcheon
04 Reycroft
01 Other[/quote]

What about the other stat?  How many times was Cornell shuout under each    
coach?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Al DeFlorio

[quote marty][quote Trotsky]Cornell has recorded 48 of its 114 shut outs under Schafer.

48 Schafer
31 Harkness
15 Bertrand
10 Patten
05 McCutcheon
04 Reycroft
01 Other[/quote]

What about the other stat?  Cornell shutout?[/quote]
Good question, Marty.
Al DeFlorio '65

Trotsky

[quote marty]What about the other stat?  Cornell shutout?[/quote]1 shutout for a team with no named coach.

Chris '03

[quote Trotsky][quote marty]What about the other stat?  Cornell shutout?[/quote]1 shutout for a team with no named coach.[/quote]

I think he meant how many times has Cornell been shutout.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

Jim Hyla

Well, obviously a lot better than Friday. Overall you have to be happy about how they came back. The second period was great, just too bad we couldn't put one in. You just had the sense that if any team scored, that might have been it. The Clarkson forecheck was much more to our liking, making for easier breakouts. But I'm becoming more concerned with our defense. Although like last night, a lot of their shots were easily seen by Scrivens, we gave up too many very good chances. I suspect Coach Schafer will get that corrected. Sometimes Riley Nash just seems like he wants to make the perfect assist. I'm amazed at how long he can keep puck control in the offensive zone. But sometimes he might better just take a shot.

Officiating was much better. Did anyone get a good view of what happened to Kennedy? I didn't actually see it. The Clarkson "pussy" cheer with a man down was/is bush. But then their cheering left a lot to be desired. Like SLU, and all past Clarkson away games they rely on drum playing during play to start cheers. I sure wish the league would come down on them. And now the obligatory I don't want to hear from Clarkson bandies that it's their building and they can do what they want, rules are rules, and at least like I said last night they can't do it in Albany.

These last 2 weekends bring us back to reality. We're not a Frozen Four team yet, but I'm still happy with the season. I think all of us would have taken tied for first, if given the chance before this season started.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Chris '03

[quote Jim Hyla] And now the obligatory I don't want to hear from Clarkson bandies that it's their building and they can do what they want, rules are rules, and at least like I said last night they can't do it in Albany.
[/quote]

You seem to have a lot of faith in the powers that be in Albany, Jim. I seem to recall Colgate playing its drums over play back in Placid. I don't remember them doing it in Albany... but I don't remember them there at all. Any particular reason in particular for your confidence that they wouldn't get away with it in Albany?
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

Jim Hyla

[quote Chris '03][quote Jim Hyla] And now the obligatory I don't want to hear from Clarkson bandies that it's their building and they can do what they want, rules are rules, and at least like I said last night they can't do it in Albany.
[/quote]

You seem to have a lot of faith in the powers that be in Albany, Jim. I seem to recall Colgate playing its drums over play back in Placid. I don't remember them doing it in Albany... but I don't remember them there at all. Any particular reason in particular for your confidence that they wouldn't get away with it in Albany?[/quote]Well, I just don't remember Clk playing that much, if at all, during the play at Albany. I have always heard the Clarksonians talking about doing it in their barn but not away. I've never remembered the obnoxious SLU drum in playoffs. I just think they don't try and break the rules away from home, but I could be wrong. If they did it would be a lot easier to complain to ECAC officials.
Oh, and I FYP. :)
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

ebilmes

Whenever dpperk tries to come in here and talk about how great the atmosphere is at Cheel, I'll be happy to disagree. As Jim said, classless fans. Wouldn't have really noticed them if we didn't happen to be right next to the student section. They were loud at times, which is impressive considering there weren't any goals, but definitely a step below Lynah. And as for the language, sexual references, etc...I guess it proves that profanity can't make you better fans.

I was happy with how we played tonight, especially given Friday's result. We gave up too many shots and made some of our usual errors on the breakout and around our own net, but everything else was going in the right direction. We had plenty of quality scoring opportunities, so it just comes down to having someone who can finish. This could have easily been a 1-0 or 2-0 win, in traditional Cornell fashion, and we'd all be happy. Just didn't get that break tonight.

We were more disciplined tonight, especially good since we had the same awful refs and Clarkson was hitting hard. Scrivens looked back at the goal a few times on some of the saves, but he seemed to be back to his usual self. Great puck movement on the powerplay.

Blake Gallagher had a great game, and Collins impressed me a lot this weekend. Riley Nash can skate around anyone on the ice, but that has to translate to some assists or goals. It doesn't help us if he dekes around a couple guys along the boards before losing the puck by the faceoff circle ("left penalty circle?")

On one of Clarkson's best scoring opportunities, a 2 on 1 in the 3rd...B.Nash had brought the puck through the neutral zone and well into the offensive zone, before losing it. Clarkson makes a quick pass and suddenly Seminoff (Devin had just gone off) is alone looking at 2 Clarkson forwards going back the other way. Nash is thirty feet out of position. And this type of play happens all the time, with Nash out of position and unable to defend against a rush going back the other way.

Really hope Kennedy's ok. I didn't see the hit but it looked like it was a knee injury.

Even after this awful weekend, we're still tied for 1st with four weekends left. Life in Lynahland is still good.

Oat

man, at least that game wasn't as dirty as i thought it would be. clarkson never hit us after the whistle. they were respectable.
B.S.'06, M.Eng.'07

lynah80

My guess for the subjective rankings on Monday:

1) BU
2) Notre Dame
3) Northeastern
4) Michigan
5) Vermont
6) Cornell
7) Denver
8) Miami
9) Minnesota
10) Princeton

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INCH 2/1/09

1) BU
2) Notre Dame
3) Michigan
4) Northeastern
5) Vermont
6) Denver
7) Cornell
8) Miami
9) Princeton
10) North Dakota

Townie

[quote Oat]man, at least that game wasn't as dirty as i thought it would be. clarkson never hit us after the whistle. they were respectable.[/quote]

I think Clarkson has reduced their dirty play.  They would always get chippy when they fell behind, but did not play that way in the December Lynah game.

Trotsky

[quote Chris '03][quote Trotsky][quote marty]What about the other stat?  Cornell shutout?[/quote]1 shutout for a team with no named coach.[/quote]

I think he meant how many times has Cornell been shutout.[/quote]
Oh.  97.

22 Schafer
20 Patten
17 Bawlf
12 McCutcheon
06 Reycroft
05 Harkness
04 Bertrand
04 Hunter
02 Boeringer
02 Magner
02 No Coach
01 Sawyer


[u]Coach      Games  SHF   Pct  SHA  Pct[/u]
Schafer      437   48  11.0   22  5.0
Harkness     218   37  17.0    5  2.3

Jim Hyla

[quote ebilmes]On one of Clarkson's best scoring opportunities, a 2 on 1 in the 3rd...B.Nash had brought the puck through the neutral zone and well into the offensive zone, before losing it. Clarkson makes a quick pass and suddenly Seminoff (Devin had just gone off) is alone looking at 2 Clarkson forwards going back the other way. Nash is thirty feet out of position. And this type of play happens all the time, with Nash out of position and unable to defend against a rush going back the other way.[/quote]

However, it's a forwards responsibility to drop back when he sees a defenseman going in deep. This happens all the time during games, without it Bobby Orr would never have gotten that iconic picture of him flying. I'd have to look at the film, but there was a forward problem on that play.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Al DeFlorio

[quote Jim Hyla]
However, it's a forwards responsibility to drop back when he sees a defenseman going in deep. This happens all the time during games, without it Bobby Orr would never have gotten that iconic picture of him flying.[/quote]
Orr managed to be +124 in the 70-71 season.  Still the record.
Al DeFlorio '65