Important message to ice hockey ticket holders

ugarte · January 25, 2009, 11:23:41 AM

[quote Beeeej][quote hboss902]They threw somebody out last night for calling the goalie by his first name.[/quote]

If someone can corroborate that (e.g., the victim), I would be very interested to hear about it.[/quote]
In the usher's defense, the Brown goalie is named Fuckwad Jones.

ugarte · January 25, 2009, 11:24:41 AM

[quote Beeeej][quote cth95][quote imafrshmn]No "asshole," no "fuck," no big deal.[/quote]

Thank you. Imafrshmn has the best post and attitude of this entire thread.[/quote]

It'd be a terrible attitude for a porn star with a lot of debts, though.[/quote]
... it wasn't long before the studio regretted hiring Bartleby.

CKinsland · January 25, 2009, 02:36:20 PM

Well, I'm a townie with two kids (8 and 5). Around my kids I never curse (they think that "shoot" is the worst curse word I know...and I've got a mouth that would make a sailor blush). I don't much care if the students curse or not when my kids are there. It's my job to teach my kids about appropriate use of language. It's not like a hockey game is the only place they are going to hear cursing. We routinely hear all sorts of "nasty" words just grocery shopping (often from people on cell phones). Walking around campus with my kids they once got to hear a girl talking (loudly) about getting wasted and fucking her boyfriend's best friend (a conversation that I'm fairly sure probably should have been conducted at lower volume). That lead to far more of a discussion with my kids than hockey cheers. I just say "We don't use those words, do the cheer this way" and we get on with our evening.

I don't believe I need the AD to protect my children's ears for me. However, I also don't feel that cursing is an integral part of a good cheer.

The coercive measures being used to attempt to control crowd behavior really seem excessive.

CK

BMac · January 25, 2009, 04:25:21 PM

OK, I demand that a fan next week (Dean/"Imafrshmn-who-is-actually-now-a-senior, I'm looking at you) start the following cheer, softly, rising to a massive crescendo:

"Hockey is a game played with a PUCK!"
"Hockey is a game played with a PUCK!"
"Hockey is a game played with a PUCK!"
"HOCKEY IS A GAME PLAYED WITH A PUCK!"
"A PUCK! A PUCK! A PUCK! A PUCK! A PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!"

Please? Pretty please?

RedAndBlue'08 · January 25, 2009, 05:54:10 PM

I'm rather torn between hating the AD for killing the atmosphere and appreciating his effort to not let the students' antics get out of control. I just started grad school at Michigan this year and have to say that the games are better without people swearing for no reason.

That being said the Gary Glitter cheer is one of my favorites and I don't think that threatening to remove it is the right call. At least things haven't been getting worse and for a while that should be enough for the AD - you're never going to make the hockey game completely clean, and why would you? When you make an emotional investment in a team sometimes things get ugly (probably not an appropriate argument for the Gary Glitter cheer but in general)

As an aside here's an example of what happens when there's no ushers around and no one cares what we say:

YouTube

Rita · January 25, 2009, 06:16:05 PM

[quote RedAndBlue'08]I'm rather torn between hating the AD for killing the atmosphere and appreciating his effort to not let the students' antics get out of control. I just started grad school at Michigan this year and have to say that the games are better without people swearing for no reason.

That being said the Gary Glitter cheer is one of my favorites and I don't think that threatening to remove it is the right call. At least things haven't been getting worse and for a while that should be enough for the AD - you're never going to make the hockey game completely clean, and why would you? When you make an emotional investment in a team sometimes things get ugly (probably not an appropriate argument for the Gary Glitter cheer but in general)

As an aside here's an example of what happens when there's no ushers around and no one cares what we say:

YouTube[/quote]

Someone should send that video clip to Andy Noel and tell him that his "skills and talents" (along with those of his hockey ushers) are desperately needed in Ann Arbor!

Go West Andy, go west.

Dpperk29 · January 25, 2009, 06:35:15 PM

Taking Gary Glitter away for a little while will make the swearing go away.

for those who don't know, at Cheel after the "1 Minute of play in the first[or 2nd/3rd] period" announcement Clarkson fans yell "OOOOKay and [Opponent] still sucks". This seemed to be fine with everyone until large numbers of people would add "Dick" to the end of it.

The Arena Management, possibly under instruction from the athletic dept, stopped the announcement at the end of the periods for most of last season. Now this season the announcements are back, but the dicks who yelled "Dick" seem to be silenced. Students have policed it right out of the arena.

Tom Tone · January 25, 2009, 06:39:19 PM

Yes, J. Andrew should head out West after this lovely spectacle that was broadcast on tv.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zslb7M83YIU

For those who can't hear it, the chant is 'Fuck you State'

or this classy example from UND - where the Denver coach was ejected and attempted to sit in the penalty box.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGSvhYRttbk

imafrshmn · January 25, 2009, 07:28:10 PM

[quote BMac]OK, I demand that a fan next week (Dean/"Imafrshmn-who-is-actually-now-a-senior, I'm looking at you) start the following cheer, softly, rising to a massive crescendo:

"Hockey is a game played with a PUCK!"
"Hockey is a game played with a PUCK!"
"Hockey is a game played with a PUCK!"
"HOCKEY IS A GAME PLAYED WITH A PUCK!"
"A PUCK! A PUCK! A PUCK! A PUCK! A PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!"

Please? Pretty please?[/quote]

Yo Bernardo, almost noone in A will have a clue what we're talking about.

Beeeej · January 25, 2009, 11:38:23 PM

[quote Dpperk29]for those who don't know, at Cheel after the "1 Minute of play in the first[or 2nd/3rd] period" announcement Clarkson fans yell "OOOOKay and [Opponent] still sucks". This seemed to be fine with everyone until large numbers of people would add "Dick" to the end of it.

The Arena Management, possibly under instruction from the athletic dept, stopped the announcement at the end of the periods for most of last season. Now this season the announcements are back, but the dicks who yelled "Dick" seem to be silenced. Students have policed it right out of the arena.[/quote]

When I first started watching Cornell hockey, the PA announcer would mark the end of an unsuccessful Cornell power play with "[Opponent] returns to full strength." The Lynah Faithful would follow that with a loud, synchronized, "And they still suck!" Even when a successful Cornell penalty kill ended, he would announce, "Cornell returns to full strength," and we would follow that with a loud, synchronized, "And [opponent] still sucks!"

Those announcements stopped in early 1990s - and I've noticed they don't do it in most other arenas, either. I always assumed Cornell's Athletics Dept. stopped it because they didn't like the response.

On the other hand, for all I know, Arthur had a sore throat one week and just decided it wasn't worth bothering with anymore. But I sure do miss it.

Rita · January 26, 2009, 05:01:51 PM

Monday's (1/26/09) All Things Considered on NPR has a story on the future leader of Andy Noel's family friendly cheering club.

"Pickle them, Pickle them, Go CU!"

Jim Hyla · January 26, 2009, 08:43:53 PM

[quote Rita]Monday's (1/26/09) All Things Considered on NPR has a story on the future leader of Andy Noel's family friendly cheering club.

"Pickle them, Pickle them, Go CU!"[/quote]Get them admitted, the whole club.

billhoward · January 26, 2009, 10:05:39 PM

Can we set a timer to bring back this thread in 2014 and see what McKay Hatch is up to then? Maybe he's due for a breakout season around. A bunch of my in-laws are born again and say "shoot" a lot. It's just like the spoken form of writing "sh*t." I think it's a greater skill to control your emotions than do approved word-substitutions.

My Cornell girlfriend did a nice sketch for her sorority in which she hummed some of the words to "Could Have Danced All Night." Actually sounds more risque. As I recall it:

I could have [hmmmmmm] all night!
I could have [hmmmmm] all night!
And still have begged for more.
I could have spread my [hmmmmm replacing wings]
And done a thousand things I've never done before.

billhoward · January 26, 2009, 10:13:28 PM

Andy Noel might see the clip hey and say, "That's what happens when you let barbarians-in-training continue unchecked." And he might be right. The audio on that clip, beyond the cursing, sounded like the first swell of what could turn into a riot.

tretiak · January 27, 2009, 11:54:43 AM

really, the most offensive part of the end of that game was the michigan fans chanting "fuck you state?" how about kampfer (coming back from a fractured skull and neck injury earlier this year) getting sucker-punched from behind like bertuzzi-moore and then slashed on the neck? while i'm 22 and from nj (i swear a ton), when i have kids i'd be a lot less afraid of them hearing fuck than watching a kid get killed or paralyzed on the ice. look how upset people were over davenport's injury at rpi, if a similar scene played out in lynah you'd have a reaction similar to the michigan fans. i've played a lot of hockey in my life, the worst things i've heard pale in comparison to the worst things i've seen.

as for swearing in general, i'd recommend everyone watch the swearing episode of penn and teller's aptly titled "bullshit"