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[andyw2100]

[quote Robb]I noticed that Ben was quite "slap-happy" at the ends of penalties last weekend - has he always done that?  I'd never seen him in person (pretty sure), and didn't remember seeing it on the webcasts before.[/quote]

Pretty sure he's always done it. He's certainly done it most of this year. There was one game early in the season--so early it may have even been pre-season--where he failed to do it once and the opposing player came out of the penalty box, took a pass, and scored. Schafer appeared pretty annoyed at that, and Ben has been pounding the stick on the ice pretty regularly since then.

[RichH]

[quote andyw2100]Ben has been pounding the stick on the ice pretty regularly since then.[/quote]

...as the kids call it these days.  (to get back to the spirit...the spirit of the thread!)

[Chris '03]

[quote RichH] (to get back to the spirit...the spirit of the thread!)[/quote]

OK. Did the boys and girls of Lynah pass the test last week or will Papa Andy be punishing the band them for the naughty words?

[jdonofrio]

The ushers are now throwing students out in Newman. At the Yale game I saw some usher sneak down one of the rows in the middle during the chant and practically put his ear in some guy's face to hear him curse and throw him out. The guy even disguised that he was an usher by wearing a suit.

[Chris '03]

[quote jdonofrio]The ushers are now throwing students out in Newman. At the Yale game I saw some usher sneak down one of the rows in the middle during the chant and practically put his ear in some guy's face to hear him curse and throw him out. The guy even disguised that he was an usher by wearing a suit.[/quote]

I'm guessing it was an associate AD then, not an usher.

[Jordan 04]

[quote jdonofrio]The ushers are now throwing students out in Newman. At the Yale game I saw some usher sneak down one of the rows in the middle during the chant and practically put his ear in some guy's face to hear him curse and throw him out. The guy even disguised that he was an usher by wearing a suit.[/quote]

When I saw 1 new post in this thread, I clicked thinking "I wonder what happened in Newman this weekend."

Of course, it shouldn't be necessary to curse during cheers.

[TimV]

Nahhh.  Plain clothes.  NSP - Newman Secret Police.

[jdonofrio]

Just looked through the staff pictures on cornellbigred.com, the guy who threw someone out in Newman was Matt Coats, I didnt know who he was, but that is the guy you guys have been complaining about right?

He is a real jackass. If I was closer to the guy he threw out I would have warned the kid and then Coats probably would have thrown me out too.

[Tom Tone]

I wonder if J. Andrew ever went to the N. Country, if his ears would bleed from some of the crap that comes out up there.

LAUREL: From Kevin Vallely. To Cornell University's athletic department. Last Saturday, my daughter and I attended our first Cornell women's basketball game against Columbia University. It was a great game and we had fun. After the game, Jeffery Hall approached us and offered up some Cornell hospitality. Unfortunately, we had to get home. While in the lobby preparing to leave, Andy Noel came over and introduced himself to us. Both Mr. Hall and Mr. Noel were kind enough to stay with my daughter as I went to our van. Their generosity was greatly appreciated. The Cornell community should be proud to have these two fine gentlemen on your team.

[Townie]

[quote Tom Tone]I wonder if J. Andrew ever went to the N. Country, if his ears would bleed from some of the crap that comes out up there.

LAUREL: From Kevin Vallely. To Cornell University's athletic department. Last Saturday, my daughter and I attended our first Cornell women's basketball game against Columbia University. It was a great game and we had fun. After the game, Jeffery Hall approached us and offered up some Cornell hospitality. Unfortunately, we had to get home. While in the lobby preparing to leave, Andy Noel came over and introduced himself to us. Both Mr. Hall and Mr. Noel were kind enough to stay with my daughter as I went to our van. Their generosity was greatly appreciated. The Cornell community should be proud to have these two fine gentlemen on your team.[/quote]

FACT:  Under Andy's tenure we've moved into third place (from 5th?) in all-time aggregate Ivy League Championships, behind Princeton and Harvard.  We've won 50 of our 179 Ivy titles under him.  For the past six years, we've been in either second or third place in terms of annual Ivy titles won.  Yeah...fire Andy!!  Andy, Matt and Gene are doing their jobs, and like ALL of us, they make mistakes.  Walk in mile in their shoes, then talk.  Until then, grow a third eye and try to see things from their view.

Much of the pressure to clean up Lynah probably comes from the CU Administration, like Skorton and Murphy.  I doubt Skorton wants to hear it, nor does he want his invited guests to hear it.  It's kind of like having your child mouth-off or swear in public.  It doesn't feel good, and as a parent it's necessary to make the kid understand it's inappropriate.

Having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.  Everyone whines about their rights, except when they find something offensive, like racial slurs.  It's admirable to consider our fellow citizens, and a good lesson to teach children.

End of rant....

[RichH]

[quote Townie]FACT:  Under Andy's tenure we've moved into third place (from 5th?) in all-time aggregate Ivy League Championships, blah blah blah[/quote]

Ask yourself: Is winning the only thing that matters?  Championships over everything else??  Awesome POV.

[Townie]

[quote RichH][quote Townie]FACT:  Under Andy's tenure we've moved into third place (from 5th?) in all-time aggregate Ivy League Championships, blah blah blah[/quote]

Ask yourself: Is winning the only thing that matters?  Championships over everything else??  Awesome POV.[/quote]

Clearly unincumbered by the thought process.

[Chris '03]

[quote Townie][quote RichH][quote Townie]FACT:  Under Andy's tenure we've moved into third place (from 5th?) in all-time aggregate Ivy League Championships, blah blah blah[/quote]

Ask yourself: Is winning the only thing that matters?  Championships over everything else??  Awesome POV.[/quote]

Clearly unincumbered (sic) by the thought process.[/quote]

Clearly you need to grow two eyes before lecturing others to grow a third. If you think the only gripe here with Andy/Matt/Gene/Anita etc. is the language thing, you've never actually interacted with these people or witnessed the way they handle their business. It's pretty clear to me (and Rich I'm guessing) that you care first that Cornell wins more now than they did under the CEO of Athletics and secondly are pleased to see swearing being bludgeoned out of lynah. Either nothing else matters to you (which would be a tremendous shame) or you're not seeing this sitution from the shoes of someone who has to deal with these folks (or even witness them in action) on anything approaching a regular basis.

Sure, they want to clean up Lynah at whatever cost and I could deal with that if the campaign weren't one of condescending, holier than though arrogance and lack of common sense. They are using a sledge hammer on lynah instead of a scalpel but I suppose that's one of their "mistakes" that everyone makes (we should take the bad with the good as long as we're winning, eh?). Have they finally given up the crusade to eradicate "suck" yet? That one was downright hilarious. I've been on the receiving end of baseless accusations and empty threats and I've witnessed ridiculous and unprofessional behavior from these administrators.  I don't care if Cornell never loses a game in anything, it doesn't justify the continuation of this administration one iota in my mind. They care only about themselves and their agenda and care not about the cornell community, students, alumni, or fans who may get in their way, or heaven forbid ever need their support for anything. I've dealt with athletic administrators at most of the ECAC schools. None treat other human beings with the same disrespect as Cornell's do their own people. That's a FACT.

End of rant.

[Tom Tone]

Your point that it is Skorton is completely and utterly wrong. J. Andrew has been on his crusade since as early as Rawlings, through Lehman, and now Skorton.  I do want Cornell to be classier than say the N. Country where it's acceptable to yell pussy at a downed player or asshole for every penalty, but the arbitrary and capricious manner that Cornell singles out people during a time when you can't tell the difference between 'fuck' and 'rough' is ridiculous.

Furthermore, under J. Andrew we have:

- expanded Lynah rink to the point where we no longer sell out.

- forced a family of 4 to need 1300$ to just attend every home game and not buy anything from the concession stands.

- built a wrestling facility that cannot actually be used to hold wrestling matches.

-sold out Alumni Fields and exiled out practice facilities to require buses for teams to get there.

-had a period where students had to pay in order to go to sporting events because they 'forgot' to file the proper paperwork.

[Chris '03]

[quote Tom Tone]Your point that it is Skorton is completely and utterly wrong. J. Andrew has been on his crusade since as early as Rawlings, through Lehman, and now Skorton.  I do want Cornell to be classier than say the N. Country where it's acceptable to yell pussy at a downed player or asshole for every penalty, but the arbitrary and capricious manner that Cornell singles out people during a time when you can't tell the difference between 'fuck' and 'rough' is ridiculous.

Furthermore, under J. Andrew we have:

- expanded Lynah rink to the point where we no longer sell out.

- forced a family of 4 to need 1300$ to just attend every home game and not buy anything from the concession stands.

- built a wrestling facility that cannot actually be used to hold wrestling matches.

-sold out Alumni Fields and exiled out practice facilities to require buses for teams to get there.

-had a period where students had to pay in order to go to sporting events because they 'forgot' to file the proper paperwork.[/quote]

Tom, you miss the point! We've had winning teams! And besides, there are fewer students to monitor when they have to pay.