Cornell 3 RPI 0 Postgame

[Scersk '97]

[quote Swampy]
How about them apples? If we had a few more players like this, we would have a chance at the NCAA title. In fact, some of them did.[/quote]

I was thinking much the same thing when I was making my list.  It's striking how often great Cornell teams have had one (or two) of these "top" penalty performers.  They are the kind of player that provides an "edge" that, well, can turn around the lack of intensity that leads to, say, losses at Harvard and ties against Colgate.  (Ahem.)

[cth95]

I liked Hornby's physical presence, but didn't he basically throw a punch and get a two-minute penalty with about 3 minutes left in Buffalo?  I was there and very excited about how Cornell was swarming all over UNH.  I thought we really had a chance to tie it up.  I was pretty pissed at the penalty, which basically blew any chance we had.

[Beeeej]

[quote cth95]I liked Hornby's physical presence, but didn't he basically throw a punch and get a two-minute penalty with about 3 minutes left in Buffalo?  I was there and very excited about how Cornell was swarming all over UNH.  I thought we really had a chance to tie it up.  I was pretty pissed at the penalty, which basically blew any chance we had.[/quote]

No - in fact, Hornby had an assist on our second goal with a little more than ten minutes left.  Shane Hynes took a high-sticking penalty with 3:08 left.

[lynah80]

[quote Al DeFlorio] Doug Ferguson and Harry Orr couldn't skate well?  Coulda fooled me.[/quote]  Okay, I admit, these guys pre-date me.

[quote redice]

As for Johnny Olds, I don't recall if he skated well or poorly.    But, I do know that his skates never stopped until the whistle blew.   Constant motion.   Fun to watch!![/quote]

He was exciting, but he skated like a windup toy.

[Jim Hyla]

[quote lynah80][quote Al DeFlorio] Doug Ferguson and Harry Orr couldn't skate well?  Coulda fooled me.[/quote]  Okay, I admit, these guys pre-date me.[/quote]But it's not hard to go back with TBRW? and see what they did. It's certainly unlikely that a leading scorer, ECAC rookie of the year, ECAC player of the year, and All-American like Doug Ferguson; or a prime defenseman, ECAC First Team,and All-American like Harry Orr, did not skate well. And they both made the TBRW? All-Star Teams.


Not meaning to jump too harshly, but Coach realizes the importance of tradition and we should too. The eLynah crowd has made research on our past very easy, and for that I'm appreciative. Yes, it is true that as you get older you remember the past more; not to take away from the present, but to try and put it all in context. And remembering the past sometimes helps to get through some of the present.

[cth95]

[quote Beeeej]No - in fact, Hornby had an assist on our second goal with a little more than ten minutes left.  Shane Hynes took a high-sticking penalty with 3:08 left.[/quote]

Thanks for clearing that up.  I got the "H" right.  I just remember being pretty pissed and thinking "What the hell were you thinking?!"  From what I saw, the penalty seemed pretty unneccessary.  Maybe it wasn't as bad of a penalty as I thought, but the timing was horrible.  At least I can be mad at the right player now.  Sorry, Hornby.

[ugarte]

[quote cth95]No - in fact, Hornby had an assist on our second goal with a little more than ten minutes left.  Shane Hynes took a high-sticking penalty with 3:08 left.[/quote]
And even with that penalty it took an insane facemask-save by the UHN goalie with ~ 30 seconds left to keep that game from going to OT. Cornell kept swarming after the penalty.

[CowbellGuy]

[quote ugarte]And even with that penalty it took an insane facemask-save by the UHN goalie with ~ 30 seconds left to keep that game from going to OT. Cornell kept swarming after the penalty.[/quote]

http://www.elynah.com/photo.php?id=120&e=&i=17 :-D

[cth95]

[quote Ugarte]And even with that penalty it took an insane facemask-save by the UHN goalie with ~ 30 seconds left to keep that game from going to OT. Cornell kept swarming after the penalty.[/quote]

I was thinking about that while I typed.  I just couldn't remember exactly when it happened.  I also was thinking about your picture, Age.  That is an absolutely amazing shot.

[ugarte]

[quote CowbellGuy][quote ugarte]And even with that penalty it took an insane facemask-save by the UHN goalie with ~ 30 seconds left to keep that game from going to OT. Cornell kept swarming after the penalty.[/quote]

http://www.elynah.com/photo.php?id=120&e=&i=17 :-D[/quote]
That picture fails to capture my agony. But it does show how ridiculous the save was - the goalie couldn't get either of his arms anywhere near the puck and it still didn't go in.

*sigh*

[TimV]

[quote Swampy][quote Scersk '97]

But don't you kind of miss having players like him?  (Well, not exactly like him, but you'll get the idea here.)

Mike Schafer  Sr  1986   91
Rob Levasseur So  1987   95
Dan Dufresne  So  1994   80
Matt Cooney   Jr  1996  104
Steve Wilson  Jr  1996   83
Greg Hornby   Jr  2003   98

All of them great performances of a kind.

[/quote]

Not to mention:

Kevin Pettit    Sr    1971    111
Doug Ferguson    Sr    1967    103
Joe Gallant    Jr    1981    95
John Olds    Fr    1979    89
Doug Ferguson    So    1965    86
Harry Orr    Sr    1967    81
John Olds    So    1980    81
Kevin Pettit    Jr    1970    80

How about them apples? If we had a few more players like this, we would have a chance at the NCAA title. In fact, some of them did.[/quote]

The 60s-early 70's guys penalty totals are deceptive.  There was quite a bit more fighting then, so racking up PIMs 5 at a time got you up there pretty quick.  On the other hand, they didn't have that pussy charging from behind major back then.  Either way Burgdorfer is a goon.  And he doesn't offset his goonery with points or great defensive plays with much frequency.::asshole::

[Swampy]

[quote Scersk '97][quote Swampy]
How about them apples? If we had a few more players like this, we would have a chance at the NCAA title. In fact, some of them did.[/quote]

I was thinking much the same thing when I was making my list.  It's striking how often great Cornell teams have had one (or two) of these "top" penalty performers.  They are the kind of player that provides an "edge" that, well, can turn around the lack of intensity that leads to, say, losses at Harvard and ties against Colgate.  (Ahem.)[/quote]

Yeah,but also consider Al's comment. That Doug Ferguson still holds so many Cornell records for scoring, given not only the great players on his team but also the great players who followed him over the next 40 years, speaks volumes about what kind of tremendous player he was. He was hardly a one-dimensional thug.::twak::

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote Swampy]Yeah,but also consider Al's comment. That Doug Ferguson still holds so many Cornell records for scoring, given not only the great players on his team but also the great players who followed him over the next 40 years, speaks volumes about what kind of tremendous player he was. He was hardly a one-dimensional thug.::twak::[/quote]
Give me a center who can score 27 goals and hand out 34 assists (as Doug did in the 1966-67 championship season) and I won't care if he's a Lady Byng candidate.**]

[Killer]

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote Swampy]Yeah,but also consider Al's comment. That Doug Ferguson still holds so many Cornell records for scoring, given not only the great players on his team but also the great players who followed him over the next 40 years, speaks volumes about what kind of tremendous player he was. He was hardly a one-dimensional thug.::twak::[/quote]
Give me a center who can score 27 goals and hand out 34 assists (as Doug did in the 1966-67 championship season) and I won't care if he's a Lady Byng candidate.**][/quote]

Hell, give us a center wo can put up those numbers and we won't care if it's Lady Byng herself.

[Beeeej]

[quote Killer][quote Al DeFlorio][quote Swampy]Yeah,but also consider Al's comment. That Doug Ferguson still holds so many Cornell records for scoring, given not only the great players on his team but also the great players who followed him over the next 40 years, speaks volumes about what kind of tremendous player he was. He was hardly a one-dimensional thug.::twak::[/quote]
Give me a center who can score 27 goals and hand out 34 assists (as Doug did in the 1966-67 championship season) and I won't care if he's a Lady Byng candidate.**][/quote]

Hell, give us a center wo can put up those numbers and we won't care if it's Lady Byng herself.[/quote]

I think she's used up all her eligibility.