Selection Show

[KeithK]

[quote CM cWo 44]It really comes down to wanting to be host, and presenting a proposal to the NCAA. I'm sure they wouldn't mind the prospect of Cornell hosting and the potential attendance increase that would entail. I'm sure there's some leniency with geography if Cornell wanted to sponsor Albany or even Scranton. IIRC Michigan Tech hosted the Green Bay Regional-- now that's a stretch.[/quote]
I don't think geography is a requirement when it comes to hosting.  One of the Alaska schools "hosted" the Anaheim FF a few years back.  Based on that standard, we could host in Philadelphia or DC.  The question is willingness to host and do the work involved in hosting (that is, organizing the effort).  The further the site is from the host school the harder it would be for the school to demonstrate that they could effectively coordinate the event.

Cornell has hosted NCAA tournament events in other sports, but I can only think of events that took place in Ithaca (e.g. lacrosse).  That's a lot easier than hosting an off campus event in another city.

[jkahn]

Hosting would be a great, hands-on project for the Hotel School.    Of course it would require Athletics and the Hotel School to work smoothly together, but I'd think the Hotel School would (or at least should) love to have a project like this - starting with the proposal writing, related planning and negotiation with potential sites and presentation to the NCAA and then continuing hopefully with actual detailed event planning and execution.  It would be a chance for students to get real event planning experience that doesn't come along often in an academic setting.

[KeithK]

[quote jkahn]Hosting would be a great, hands-on project for the Hotel School.    Of course it would require Athletics and the Hotel School to work smoothly together, but I'd think the Hotel School would (or at least should) love to have a project like this - starting with the proposal writing, related planning and negotiation with potential sites and presentation to the NCAA and then continuing hopefully with actual detailed event planning and execution.  It would be a chance for students to get real event planning experience that doesn't come along often in an academic setting.[/quote]
Sounds reasonable.  But remember, there's a time lag between proposal and the actual event.  The students who were involved in the proposal writing might have graduated by the time the event happens.  So the Hotel School would have to assume that they would have sufficient participation at a later date from students over a number of years.  (The regionals aren't set as far in advance as the FF but it's still not the same year.)  This is a risk that might be enough to discourage either the HS or the AD or both.

[Josh '99]

[quote Jordan 04]For those not in the know, what goes into "hosting", and what benefit is derived for the host school, beyond being the nominal "host"?[/quote]The biggest one is that if your team is in the tournament, they're automatically placed at the regional that you're hosting rather than potentially having to travel to a regional further away.  (I'm not sure whether that was part of what you meant by being the nominal host.)

[Jordan 04]

[quote Josh '99][quote Jordan 04]For those not in the know, what goes into "hosting", and what benefit is derived for the host school, beyond being the nominal "host"?[/quote]The biggest one is that if your team is in the tournament, they're automatically placed at the regional that you're hosting rather than potentially having to travel to a regional further away.  (I'm not sure whether that was part of what you meant by being the nominal host.)[/quote]

True, forgot about that one, but I see that as a coincidental benefit. I meant more a case such as RPI this year for Albany: What hosting duties do they have, and what benefit, if any, do they derive from hosting?

[Josh '99]

[quote Jordan 04]True, forgot about that one, but I see that as a coincidental benefit. I meant more a case such as RPI this year for Albany: What hosting duties do they have, and what benefit, if any, do they derive from hosting?[/quote]I don't really know.  I think sometimes documents about that sort of thing make their way online, maybe there's something with that information on the NCAA website?

[Jacob '06]

I assume there is a revenue benefit to the host. You probably also get free advertising for your school during the intermissions, in the programs, and possibly on the ice surface.

[reilly83]

::crazy:: Let's set up an outdoor rink in Schoellkopf!

[Josh '99]

[quote reilly83]::crazy:: Let's set up an outdoor rink in Schoellkopf![/quote]Hey, they've done it in the NHL, they're going it for the Frozen Four, why not in a regional?

[mnagowski]

[quote reilly83]::crazy:: Let's set up an outdoor rink in Schoellkopf![/quote]

Michigan State did it. So did Wisconsin.

http://www.metaezra.com/archive/2008/01/an_ice_bowl_at_schoelkopf.shtml

[Annoying name here]

Why would the Athletics Department be automatically opposed? You'd think we'd have the resources to host. I mean, it's not like we're some crap school like RPI.

[DeltaOne81]

[quote Annoying name here]Why would the Athletics Department be automatically opposed? You'd think we'd have the resources to host. I mean, it's not like we're some crap school like RPI.[/quote]

See: lacrosse, north regional, 2004 (?), Schoellkopf.

[RatushnyFan]

[quote Chris '03]I like how they went out of their way to protect no. 1 seeds from having to play at host schools the year Michigan doesn't have a home regional. Wouldn't want poor Michigan to get a taste of its own medicine now would we? Woulda been funny to see an under-.500 Bucky team knock of Michigan at home to earn a FF bid.[/quote]Don't they deserve the easiest draw given their overall #1 PWR ranking?  They worked all season long to get in position for the overall best draw.  The fact that as a non #1 seed in the past they've played at their home as regional host (and had success) is a different issue.  Isn't that how it works for everyone?

[French Rage]

[quote RatushnyFan][quote Chris '03]I like how they went out of their way to protect no. 1 seeds from having to play at host schools the year Michigan doesn't have a home regional. Wouldn't want poor Michigan to get a taste of its own medicine now would we? Woulda been funny to see an under-.500 Bucky team knock of Michigan at home to earn a FF bid.[/quote]Don't they deserve the easiest draw given their overall #1 PWR ranking?  They worked all season long to get in position for the overall best draw.  The fact that as a non #1 seed in the past they've played at their home as regional host (and had success) is a different issue.  Isn't that how it works for everyone?[/quote]

Did we get the worst team as the #1 overall seed?

As for "easiest" draw, while Wisconsin has the worst win-loss record, using the PWR it still ends up being the AH/CHA autobids.

[djk26]

DeltaOne81, what do you mean?  Were there a lot of problems with hosting that regional?  I'm asking because I genuinely don't know.