Hahvahd 3 @ Cornell 1 Postgame

[Trotsky]

[quote calgARI '07]Well they are only on the ice about 12-15 minutes a game each so I think it's pretty amazing that they have produced as much as they have.[/quote]You know what I mean.  The team should average more than 2 gpg, not just those core players.  ::smashfreak::
When Patrick Kennedy puts on some more muscle and gets more experienced, he will become a scoring threat.  By then, of course, Riley will be Edmonton...

[Doug '08]

[quote Cornell95]Just scanning the box score I am shocked that it appears we were 50/50 at the faceoff circle, over the game.  Would love to see a breakdown by period... Dufault absolutely killed us in the 3rd at the faceoff (not to mention the goals)[/quote]

I'd say we were winning the majority of the draws in the first and second period, so a 50/50 split actually seems reasonable to me because you're right- third period was aweful

[calgARI '07]

[quote Trotsky]You know what I mean.  The team should average more than 2 gpg, not just those core players.  ::smashfreak::
When Patrick Kennedy puts on some more muscle and gets more experienced, he will become a scoring threat.  By then, of course, Riley will be Edmonton...[/quote]

I don't think this team has the offensive talent to average more than two goals a game within the system that they play.  After Fontas, Scali, and Mugford the other nine forwards play about the same amount at even strength.  Playing a system that places far more emphasis on preventing goals than scoring them when your least offensively-gifted players seem the most ice time and your most gifted are on the ice every fourth shift, you are praying to win games 2-1 or 1-0.

Why should they average more than two goals a game?  It isn't like they get a ton of pucks to the net or like they get a lot of quality scoring chances.  I think the amount they're scoring seems about right in the games I've seen.

[redhair34]

[quote Trotsky]
For a team with more high end offensive talent (Riley, Greening, Michael Kennedy) than any since the F4 team[/quote]

That's it though...there's a significant drop off after that.  For example, look at our checking line Mugford-Fontas-Scali--great defensive/energy line--but no offensive talent.  Think of checking lines from years past...Mugford-Kennedy-Carefoot or Mugford-Abbott-Sawada both of those lines generated offense.  I think the problem (which Ari was alluding to) is that a team that's offensive talent is top-heavy needs to have the "talent," so to speak, see a disproportionate amount of ice time--otherwise you'll struggle to score.  And it's not like Nash or Greening ever see any time on the PK.  Look at Winchester and Burton or jubinville, wilson and Macintyre (sp) and how often they are on the ice.  In the past this wasn't an issue--the talent and physicality was spread out a bit more, so rolling four lines worked well as we slowly wore down opponents and had enough offensive skill to capitalize.

[Scersk '97]

[quote redhair34]And it's not like Nash or Greening ever see any time on the PK.  Look at Winchester and Burton or jubinville, wilson and Macintyre (sp) and how often they are on the ice.[/quote]

Outside of Chartrand/Cooney, who seemed to have a talent for it and were certainly supremely conditioned, Schafer has not been one, at least in my memory, to put top players on the kill.  Our kill is expected to block a lot of shots, and I'm certainly glad those guys aren't often out there doing that.  Greening has potential to be a Chartrand-type (rugged, unstoppable), but he's still just a sophomore.  I could see next year, for example, Greening and M. Kennedy paired up top on a penalty kill for a dangerous combination.

With the lines, it seems clear to me that Schafer is trying to replicate the '03 clinical powerplay for next year and, potentially, two years from now.  (That is, it might not be as difficult to keep R. Nash around if we're challenging for a national championship.  Brothers...)  I expect the Greening/Nash/P. Kennedy line will remain intact next year, as will that power play unit involving them.

[calgARI '07]

[quote Scersk '97]

Outside of Chartrand/Cooney, who seemed to have a talent for it and were certainly supremely conditioned, Schafer has not been one, at least in my memory, to put top players on the kill.  [/quote]

Don't forget Vesce and Baby.

[redhair34]

[quote Scersk '97]Our kill is expected to block a lot of shots, and I'm certainly glad those guys aren't often out there doing that.[/quote]

I don't disagree, I only mentioned it to point out that they aren't exerting extra energy on the kill and should have plenty in the tank to handle increased ice time.

[Scersk '97]

[quote calgARI '07][quote Scersk '97]

Outside of Chartrand/Cooney, who seemed to have a talent for it and were certainly supremely conditioned, Schafer has not been one, at least in my memory, to put top players on the kill.  [/quote]

Don't forget Vesce and Baby.[/quote]

I suppose I don't remember Vesce spending a lot of time on the kill, but it is so hard to remember the very competent but not dangerous ones.  Easier to remember the Igguldens and McCutcheons.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Scersk '97][quote calgARI '07][quote Scersk '97]

Outside of Chartrand/Cooney, who seemed to have a talent for it and were certainly supremely conditioned, Schafer has not been one, at least in my memory, to put top players on the kill.  [/quote]

Don't forget Vesce and Baby.[/quote]

I suppose I don't remember Vesce spending a lot of time on the kill, but it is so hard to remember the very competent but not dangerous ones.  Easier to remember the Igguldens and McCutcheons.[/quote]

And Carefoots.  ("Carefeet!")

[Josh '99]

[quote Scersk '97]With the lines, it seems clear to me that Schafer is trying to replicate the '03 clinical powerplay for next year and, potentially, two years from now. [/quote]Assembling a five-man power play unit of freshmen and sophomores so that that unit can build chemistry over three years is something Schafer has shown a fondness for in the past.

[Doug '08]

EDIT: I see the forum police have already got to it...