Fish

[CowbellGuy]

[quote metaezra]If I remember correctly, the 2003 Harvard game was highlighted by an octopus[/quote]

The best part is you can grab a tentacle and fling it like a frisbee. And they fly like one--I mean... I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Jim Hyla]

[quote KeithK][quote BMac]OT: That was my first SA meeting. Christ, I can see what the Sun's talking about. And the sheer idea of allowing students to carry concealed firearms on a college campus... makes me want to punch someone in the nuts. And not even Nick Dodge.[/quote]
Yes, because those with legal concealed weapons permits are known to be such a dangerous bunch.  Somehow I don't think restrictions against concealed carry have ever  or will ever deter someone who was determined to shoot up a classroom.  OTOH, armed students and staff have stopped a number of campus murderers through the years (nationally, not at Cornell).[/quote]

Maybe we'd better take this to JSID, but, Hmm, we have the free country with the most guns and the most gun crimes, any relationship?

Yeah, I know "In a word, NO"::asshole:: And no, I'm not referring to you; it's the only emoticon with a gun.:-}

[jdonofrio]

Interesting email form athletics about the fish:

CORNELL VS. HARVARD MEN'S ICE HOCKEY REMINDERS  

Good evening Hockey Fans!  A few reminders for the games this weekend:
        *  Please arrive early for Saturday's game vs. Harvard and expect delays at the doors to due to package and other inspections.  Doors open at 5:30 p.m.
        *  Fans who are found to have fish or alcohol on their person will be expelled from the rink and will be subject to other university discipline. Bags and backpacks will not be permitted in the rink. Food and refreshments must be purchased from our concessionaire.
        *  For this game and all others, a policy of zero tolerance of rude and disruptive behavior is in effect.
         
        *  Please be reminded that the throwing of fish, or any other object onto the ice or any other disruptive behavior will not be tolerated, and is cause for ejection from the rink and the revocation of tickets.  Any items thrown on the ice could result in a delay of game penalty for the Cornell team.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.  Go Big Red!


I am a freshman so after getting this email I thought they would be real strict about the fish but after reading your comments it seems they do this just to appease the NCAA.

[Beeeej]

[quote jdonofrio]I am a freshman so after getting this email I thought they would be real strict about the fish but after reading your comments it seems they do this just to appease the NCAA.[/quote]

I would say that they don't do this just to appease the NCAA.  I'm sure they also do it so that people aren't completely surprised - and have no real basis for complaint - if and when they are prevented from entering, or thrown out, or whatever.  It's multifaceted ass-covering.

[lynah80]

[quote jdonofrio]Interesting email form athletics about the fish:

CORNELL VS. HARVARD MEN'S ICE HOCKEY REMINDERS  

Good evening Hockey Fans!  A few reminders for the games this weekend:
        *  Please arrive early for Saturday's game vs. Harvard and expect delays at the doors to due to package and other inspections.  Doors open at 5:30 p.m.
        *  Fans who are found to have fish or alcohol on their person will be expelled from the rink and will be subject to other university discipline. Bags and backpacks will not be permitted in the rink. Food and refreshments must be purchased from our concessionaire.
        *  For this game and all others, a policy of zero tolerance of rude and disruptive behavior is in effect.
         
        *  Please be reminded that the throwing of fish, or any other object onto the ice or any other disruptive behavior will not be tolerated, and is cause for ejection from the rink and the revocation of tickets.  Any items thrown on the ice could result in a delay of game penalty for the Cornell team.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.  Go Big Red!


I am a freshman so after getting this email I thought they would be real strict about the fish but after reading your comments it seems they do this just to appease the NCAA.[/quote]

I've been frisked before Cornell hockey games and I think it is a good idea.  If you want Cornell to beat Harvard on Saturday, then don't risk a penalty against the team.  Don't throw anything on the ice.

[Dpperk29]

the way to get fish in is simple. Have one person go first, make sure they LOOK extremely guilty. while security is checking them, they have a tendency to let the other 7 of he friends who look innocent through without any trouble.

Just make sure someone sneaks a fish in for the Decoy to throw.

[Jacob '06]

[quote lynah80][
I've been frisked before Cornell hockey games and I think it is a good idea.  If you want Cornell to beat Harvard on Saturday, then don't risk a penalty against the team.  Don't throw anything on the ice.[/quote]

If you only throw the fish when Harvard comes on the ice for introductions, Cornell will not be penalized. If you are an idiot and throw it once the game begins they will be.

[octopusguy]

[quote metaezra]If I remember correctly, the 2003 Harvard game was highlighted by an octopus and a large walleye. You have to give the octopus respect.

I have always felt that a rather entertaining animal to end up on the ice would be a live lobster or crab...[/quote]


I don't know if it was me you saw, but I did take pride in my octopus over the years (hence the screen name).  I threw a small one in 2004.  Then I threw a large one in 2005, which was my largest success (McKee poked it for awhile, it got stuck to the ice when they tried to remove it, and the whole crowd cheered when they finally got it off and raised it high to the crowd).  And in 2006, my senior year, I threw 2 large ones at the end of the game.  I've since graduated but hope to return with more octopus at future Harvard games.

[Beeeej]

My favorites have been the odd stuff like boxes of Mrs. Paul's, bags of Swedish Fish, plush fish toys, etc.  Don't see much of those anymore.

[Trotsky]

The AD's attacks on the fish tradition have waxed and waned over the years, even with the same administration, suggesting they don't originate with the AD at all.

The policies against the f-bomb only increase, which suggests everybody in the AD and administration are on board.  Draconian punishments for the f-bomb are good natural selection, anyway, since the fans who can't think of anything more clever to do at the game don't add anything anyway.

[jtwcornell91]

http://www.amurgsval.org/squishy/fish.1.4.html
http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,62,74#msg-74

[Josh '99]

[quote KeithK][quote BMac]They "won't frisk women or anything like that"[/quote]
here's a suggestion.  Make sure you come to the game with a woman.  Then when they don't frisk her and try to frisk you, insist that they are violating your rights!  Sex discrimination by an institution receiving federal funding!

Of course, this would just get you some nasty words fromthe staff as they don't let you into the game.  But it sounds funny.[/quote]Either that or they'd just frisk the woman too.

[RichH]

[quote jtwcornell91]http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,62,74#msg-74[/quote]

Sure is easy to search for "schlong" on this forum, isn't it?

[RichH]

[quote Beeeej]My favorites have been the odd stuff like boxes of Mrs. Paul's, bags of Swedish Fish, plush fish toys, etc.  Don't see much of those anymore.[/quote]

Probably for the best.  Unless those things are all packaged somehow, they all are horrible for the ice conditions.  Frozen fish sticks shatter and the breading goes everywhere.  Swedish fish are pretty nasty as they can goo up the ice much worse than fish guts.

[RichH]

[quote Trotsky]The AD's attacks on the fish tradition have waxed and waned over the years, even with the same administration, suggesting they don't originate with the AD at all.[/quote]

A couple of years ago, I showed up for this game so early the rink doors weren't even open.  So hanging around in the field house hallway, I was privy to the pre-game usher huddle where Gene N. gives his pep talk and marching orders to the ushers.  It was quite enlightening.  For the Harvard game specifically, he was listing places where those no-good kids have tried to smuggle in fish before (apparently carrying them in using packaging from a company that "owns Clarkson" (if you know the standard eLF humor) was discovered to be a strategy) as well as ideas that were discussed on some online forum somewhere...

Trotsky is exactly right when he says that enforcement has waxed and waned through the years.  And I think my above paragraph demonstrates that the level of frisking comes more from the people in the trenches rather than any AD directive.  Personally, I always got fish in using a "below-the-waist" method...until one crackdown year when the security dude actually did grab me in my schlong-al region.  As it led to discovery of my contraband fish, I felt I lost my right to claim inappropriate touching.