Fish

[BMac]

Hi guys,

I just ran into Athletic Director Andy Noel (pronounced No L, not Nohl as I originally thought) and asked about the Fish Policy this season.

He says that they will make a "good effort" to eliminate fish. They "won't frisk women or anything like that" nor try to take out every fish. Nothing unreasonable. Personally, I got the idea that he agrees that it's a tradition and has to make a "best effort" because of the NCAA or some higher power.

I will make, of course, MY best effort to bring some in...

Let's go red.

[JasonN95]

[quote BMac]They "won't frisk women or anything like that" [/quote]

Depending on how good someone looks in drag, problem solved. :-)

[grizzdan24]

So you think security would laugh it off if I tried to walk in with a 30lb. grouper in my arms? Or is that a bad idea? I feel like my friends would take the following approach -->::stupid::

[KeithK]

[quote BMac]They "won't frisk women or anything like that"[/quote]
here's a suggestion.  Make sure you come to the game with a woman.  Then when they don't frisk her and try to frisk you, insist that they are violating your rights!  Sex discrimination by an institution receiving federal funding!

Of course, this would just get you some nasty words fromthe staff as they don't let you into the game.  But it sounds funny.

[KeithK]

[quote grizzdan24]So you think security would laugh it off if I tried to walk in with a 30lb. grouper in my arms? Or is that a bad idea? I feel like my friends would take the following approach -->::stupid::[/quote]
Well, if you have a 30lb. fish in your arms and give it up to security maybe they wouldn't search you for the other, more reasonably sized fishes you have under your clothes.

[Jacob '06]

I don't think they ever really frisked men either unless you looked really suspicious. What I usually got was open your jacket, they look at you quickly and then let you through. This works best if you show up really early to the game b/c they don't get all the cops there and stuff until later. Also had a female friend just put it under her 2 bra straps and thats a good way to get it in

[mnagowski]

If I remember correctly, the 2003 Harvard game was highlighted by an octopus and a large walleye. You have to give the octopus respect.

I have always felt that a rather entertaining animal to end up on the ice would be a live lobster or crab...

[ebilmes]

[quote BMac]Hi guys,

I just ran into Athletic Director Andy Noel (pronounced No L, not Nohl as I originally thought) and asked about the Fish Policy this season.

He says that they will make a "good effort" to eliminate fish. They "won't frisk women or anything like that" nor try to take out every fish. Nothing unreasonable. Personally, I got the idea that he agrees that it's a tradition and has to make a "best effort" because of the NCAA or some higher power.

I will make, of course, MY best effort to bring some in...

Let's go red.[/quote]

Assuming you were the guy that stopped Noel on his way out of the SA meeting...what did you think of his comments there?

Noel was at the SA meeting because several faculty members were there to deliver a (boring) presentation on the state of Cornell athletics, recognition by the NCAA, etc. A representative asked Noel about the policy of revoking an entire season's worth of student tickets for saying "fuck em up," and Noel tried to paint himself as an "old-timer" who felt that "the eff word" was not an appropriate word to say in family-friendly Lynah. I would have liked to see someone publicly ask him about the anti-Fish policy -- it's hard to paint yourself as an "old-timer" or traditionalist when you're trying to destroy one of our school's best (and most famous) traditions.

[BMac]

I was indeed the guy who stopped him on his way out...
Honestly, I don't really care. I can deal with not swearing. I DO think the punishment is onerous, but you can't say we didn't have fair warning nowadays.

However, the fish thing I think he's letting up on. At least, that's the way it seemed, though not exactly in a wink wink we won't check anyone nudge nudge way.

Much more interesting (and the reason I was at the SA meeting) was to protest the resolution to allow concealed weapons on college campuses. Unfortunately, the members of the SA thought the small crowd meant the Cornell Republicans got a bunch of their own to quietly show up, so they tabled the discussion until they had a better representation from students. It's too bad- the vast majority of us there were against guns.

OT: That was my first SA meeting. Christ, I can see what the Sun's talking about. And the sheer idea of allowing students to carry concealed firearms on a college campus... makes me want to punch someone in the nuts. And not even Nick Dodge.

[Jacob '06]

[quote ebilmes][quote BMac]Hi guys,

I just ran into Athletic Director Andy Noel (pronounced No L, not Nohl as I originally thought) and asked about the Fish Policy this season.

He says that they will make a "good effort" to eliminate fish. They "won't frisk women or anything like that" nor try to take out every fish. Nothing unreasonable. Personally, I got the idea that he agrees that it's a tradition and has to make a "best effort" because of the NCAA or some higher power.

I will make, of course, MY best effort to bring some in...

Let's go red.[/quote]

Assuming you were the guy that stopped Noel on his way out of the SA meeting...what did you think of his comments there?

Noel was at the SA meeting because several faculty members were there to deliver a (boring) presentation on the state of Cornell athletics, recognition by the NCAA, etc. A representative asked Noel about the policy of revoking an entire season's worth of student tickets for saying "fuck em up," and Noel tried to paint himself as an "old-timer" who felt that "the eff word" was not an appropriate word to say in family-friendly Lynah. I would have liked to see someone publicly ask him about the anti-Fish policy -- it's hard to paint yourself as an "old-timer" or traditionalist when you're trying to destroy one of our school's best (and most famous) traditions.[/quote]

Honestly, they don't try very hard to catch you with the fish. I think mostly they are doing it as a formality b/c they would get pressured by various people if they just let it go. If you get there early they don't really check you, and if you go through a little bit of effort to put the fish in an inconspicuous place you will get it in. If you got in to Cornell you should be smart enough to get around their "checking" for fish on the way in.

[ebilmes]

Yeah, I was there for the handgun thing, too. I think there were maybe 2 people there who were for the resolution and the rest of us were opposed. See you next week...

[redhair34]

[quote Jacob '06]
Honestly, they don't try very hard to catch you with the fish. I think mostly they are doing it as a formality b/c they would get pressured by various people if they just let it go. If you get there early they don't really check you, and if you go through a little bit of effort to put the fish in an inconspicuous place you will get it in. If you got in to Cornell you should be smart enough to get around their "checking" for fish on the way in.[/quote]

I agree re: getting into Lynah with a fish.  Would it be the same fun if they let us just waltz in with fish, throw them out at warmups and then collect them and re-distribute to throw again for player introductions?  Anybody who's gone up to Colgate knows what I'm talking about.  The administration openly permitting or even encouraging the tradition sort of cheapens it in my mind.

My problem is that even if you're able to get the fish into the rink you still run the risk of being tossed when you throw it on the ice.  This is the reason I (somewhat regrettably) never brought in a fish.  My feeling is if you are willing to shove a dead fish down your pants, athletics should look the other way once you're in your seat.

[KeithK]

[quote BMac]OT: That was my first SA meeting. Christ, I can see what the Sun's talking about. And the sheer idea of allowing students to carry concealed firearms on a college campus... makes me want to punch someone in the nuts. And not even Nick Dodge.[/quote]
Yes, because those with legal concealed weapons permits are known to be such a dangerous bunch.  Somehow I don't think restrictions against concealed carry have ever  or will ever deter someone who was determined to shoot up a classroom.  OTOH, armed students and staff have stopped a number of campus murderers through the years (nationally, not at Cornell).

[oceanst41]

[quote redhair34]My feeling is if you are willing to shove a dead fish down your pants, athletics should look the other way once you're in your seat.[/quote]

I will echo that sentiment. I managed to smuggle my fish in that way in '03 (Hynes' tip in for the 1-0 win). Wegmans did an excellent job wrapping it, so I used an extra tight belt to keep the fish in place. Too bad we were some of the only people to get to our section in time, it's tough to conceal 4 fish flying out of a section with 10 people in it. The ushers arbitrarily chose one of us to be kicked out, but it's okay he just took a long walk around the rink and sneaked in through another section.

You are right though, it's fun to try and sneak the fish through, but if you get it by the front door it shouldn't mean you get bounced from the game.

[French Rage]

Heck, I one time had newspaper with fish in it blatantly sticking out of the top of my jacket and one about to fall out of my pantleg and all they did was pat my sides and let me go.